November 17, 2009
Leftist Terrorist Lawyer Ordered to Jail
If there is any justice, this will work out to be a
life sentence.
A federal appeals court has ordered leftist Manhattan civil rights lawyer Lynne Stewart to surrender and begin serving her sentence immediately on her 2005 conviction for shuttling messages from imprisoned terrorist Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman.
Stewart, 70, has been free on bail pending appeal since her 2005 conviction for using her status as Abdel-Rahman's lawyer to violate federal rules barring him from communicating from his high-security imprisonment, and her 2006 sentence to 28 months in jail by U.S. District Judge John Koeltl.
A three-judge panel of the Second U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, in Tuesday morning's ruling, not only affirmed Stewart's conviction and ordered her to prison immediately, but remanded the case to Koeltl to consider whether she should get a harsher sentence.
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A harsher sentence???
How about TREASON? No, I guess she didn't "take up arms" against the country. SEDITION??? Youuuu Betcha'!!
Posted by: Dell at November 17, 2009 01:34 PM (wn1Sh)
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The dissenting judge called her sentence a travesty and thought it should be much longer. The Appeals Court also had issues with the trial judge's acceptance of all of Stewart's "good" deeds when deciding on her sentence, but omitted to consider that Stewart had perjured herself on the stand during the trial.
Posted by: Penfold at November 17, 2009 05:38 PM (lF2Kk)
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Once you've crossed the Rubicon and thrown in with the terrorists, all your "good deeds" are pretty much null and void in my mind.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 17, 2009 06:05 PM (7dU/r)
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As Mr. Burns says, "Exxxcelllent!"
Posted by: Federale at November 17, 2009 06:28 PM (QZ/te)
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I recall the events and the charges. I am astonished that she is actually going to serve serious time, I thought certainly she would be disbarred, draw some penalty and basically go on with her life. Well, this was a relic of the Bush years and it looks like this was a federal prosecution. Knowing the policies on even the most notorious terrorists, can anyone believe that a repeat of these acts will be as thoroughly prosecuted? Or prosecuted at all? The Obies seem to seriously believe their own press, that kid-glove treatment and a ban on swirlees will deflate the jihadi juggernaut but already I see a fading of Lefty rhetorical support for that justification. If you listen and read you will notice that now they laud HoldBama as a more stern Decider on the fate of the terrs. They loudly demand the death penalty... oddly enough, and from the Juan Williamses to the Lone Whackoes, they all declare that the convictions AND executions are "slam dunk" certain. Didn't Marcia Clark have a slam-dunk case? Who dat?
Posted by: megapotamus at November 18, 2009 08:59 AM (e6TEq)
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November 15, 2009
Future ACORN Employees of the Year?
As we've seen in the various videos released thus far, ACORN seems completely fine with the idea of trafficking children for the purposes of pedophile prostitution. We can only assume that Mario Andrette McNeill and Antoinette Nicole Davis are looking to not just join the group, but shoot for senior management positions.
The two are presently under arrest for kidnapping, and human trafficking and child abuse involving prostitution.
The victim is Davis' own five year-old daughter, Shaniya.
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And now you can add murder. That poor kid.
Posted by: Pablo at November 17, 2009 03:12 AM (yTndK)
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As Pablo indicates, the police have found the body:
http://www.newsmax.com/us/us_girl_disappears_nc/2009/11/16/286798.html
Best regards, Peter Warner.
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November 13, 2009
Census Worker Made Suicide Look Like Homicide for Insurance Payoff?
I guess they'll
quietly drop this from the narrative.
Two law enforcement officials, who spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the case, said investigators were trying to determine whether Bill Sparkman committed suicide but altered the scene to make it look like a homicide, allowing his son to collect.
Life insurance policies typically do not cover suicides within a certain time period after the policy begins.
Sad, in so many ways.
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I thought this gentleman was the first casualty of the Whiskey Rebellion 2K9.
Posted by: megapotamus at November 13, 2009 09:16 PM (Uu2CW)
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But what about the teabaggers?
Sad.
Posted by: Pablo at November 14, 2009 12:06 AM (yTndK)
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Suicide is not covered for two years after policy inception. Get is straight folks. Somebody should ask how long his policy was in force.
Posted by: TimothyJ at November 14, 2009 12:52 AM (IKKIf)
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November 02, 2009
Explosion at Bragg OP Kills Civilian
If I recall correctly, we're in the middle of
Robin Sage, but I cannot for the life of me figure out how
exploding civilians could be related to a military training exercise.
An explosion on a Fort Bragg observation point killed a civilian Friday, Fort Bragg spokeswoman Jackie Thomas said Sunday.
Two civilians were in the area when the blast went off at 12:15 p.m., Thomas said.
One was killed, the other was not injured. The names of the victims were not released. Thomas said they were not Army employees.
It sounds like these civilians were probably not supposed to be there, but the statement is so antiseptic that we can't be sure exactly what is going on.
I'm going to recall an old NCIS episode and wonder if they might have been hunting scrap metal on a bombing range and set off unexploded ordnance.
Update: When I'm good, I'm good. Score one for Darwin:
Fort Bragg officials say a civilian killed in an explosion at the North Carolina Army post was scavenging for scrap metal when he stepped on a round and it exploded.
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So he was looking for scrap ordnance, eh? Looks like he found some, the hard way.
Posted by: Tim at November 02, 2009 05:15 PM (3Wewy)
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October 19, 2009
An Armed Society...
The FBI says the number of police officers slain in the line of duty fell sharply last year.
Bureau statistics list 41 law enforcement officers killed in 2008. The list includes one FBI agent, Sam Hicks, who was shot and killed during a drug raid outside Pittsburgh.
Felony killings of police officers haven't been that low since 1999, although police officer support groups — which use different standards to count officer killings — say the number of officers killed hasn't been this low since the 1960s.
It doesn't fit any of the preferred narratives, so don't count on seeing this reported in too many places.
This is especially true considering it occurred during a year where concealed carry permit applications skyrocketed nationwide, along with the sale of ammunition, handguns, and so-called assault rifles.
Gun sales went up, and the killing of law enforcement officers went down. Just another inconvenient truth.
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What is the number of officers killed? I used to think that they were in a risky occupation. Then found out that in respect to risk they were at the bottom. They certainly make a big deal about the risk to justify the cruelty they dish out to suspects. The reason for my ire is that I had a 72 year old patient that was roughed up after being stopped for drunk driving. The only problem was that he had not been drinking and his odd behavior was secondary to an insulin reaction. The officer was never subjected to any abuse by this man yet he refused to even remove his handcuffs so that paramedics could start a life saving IV. I feel that the police have developed a very bad attitude that is being fueled by so called "reality shows". They need to get back to earth and start treating people in a reasonable manner. Many of my conservative friends are to the point that they feel it would be wise to remove their weapons.
Posted by: David at October 19, 2009 03:50 PM (Lh/sO)
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Remove guns from the cops? Are you (and your "conservative friends") completely bonkers? Wow.
Posted by: DavidB at October 19, 2009 04:41 PM (/t8cv)
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Statistically, cops have a less dangerous job than garbagemen, farmers, roofers, loggers, fishermen and construction workers. That's right, your garbageman is more likely to get killed on the job than a cop.
Cops are just a particularly annoying form of public employee. They routinely abuse disability pensions and their unions manipulate local politics to be sure to have sympathetic elected officials.
Cop unions are the first to use scare tactics when it's time to cut public budgets. Meanwhile, cops in California retire after 20 years with 90%+ pensions.
Posted by: fred suggs at October 19, 2009 05:45 PM (ofze/)
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Re: '...so-called assault rifles.' Did you mean 'so-called assault weapons'? 'Assault rifle' is a descriptive term; 'assault weapon' is a legal term.
Posted by: RNB at October 19, 2009 05:54 PM (WkjqG)
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DavidB
That's right. Either remove or significantly reduce the firepower that cops have. I used to live in New Orleans. The cops were so bad there that you actually preferred to confront a bad guy to a cop. I know from personel experience as I was almost rolled by two muggers. They were nice once they knew I would hurt them. On the other had I accidently had some paper caught by the wind and fly over a cop car. I thought the guy was going to kill me.
Posted by: David at October 19, 2009 05:55 PM (Lh/sO)
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Of course this would not be widely reported in the media. Most journos are so ignorant about guns they think Double Action Only is something offered by an escort service in DC.
Posted by: zhombre at October 19, 2009 06:22 PM (kLU+g)
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Most of you, I think your Momma still must support you. If you don't see where we going in the near future, you will be dead. Our course and current path is not hope and change. It is death and suffering. I hope you survive, We will.
Posted by: Marc at October 20, 2009 12:33 AM (Zoziv)
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All you gun huggers should move to Baghdad.
Posted by: Alex at October 20, 2009 09:32 AM (cQhQZ)
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Or Switzerland. Everyone is in the military there, and keeps their assault rifles at home. It is a very safe place...
Posted by: Grey Fox at October 20, 2009 09:48 AM (d1ae8)
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All you gun huggers should move to Baghdad.
Posted by Alex at October 20, 2009 09:32 AM
But we won't. We will stay here in our country defending our families, our country, and ourselves.
And all you can do about it is post witless and impotent comments. Shame about that.
Posted by: iconoclast at October 20, 2009 12:08 PM (O8ebz)
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Been to Baghdad. Been to Kabul.
Armed.
I don't go to Chicago or NYC.
My Concealed Carry Permit is not Honored.
Anywhere my Rights are not honored is a place I shouldn't be.
Next silly question?
Posted by: Old Trooper at October 20, 2009 03:56 PM (oNzU6)
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Been to Baghdad. Been to Kabul.
Armed.
I don't go to Chicago or NYC.
My Concealed Carry Permit is not Honored.
Anywhere my Rights are not honored is a place I shouldn't be.
Next silly question?
Posted by Old Trooper at October 20, 2009 03:56 PM
Well said sir, and thank you for going to those places so I could sit on my ass in a classroom.
The Departed:
Oliver Queenan: We have a question: Do you want to be a cop, or do you want to appear to be a cop? It's an honest question. A lot of guys just want to appear to be cops. Gun, badge, pretend they're on TV.
Dignam: Yeah, a lot of people just wanna slam a nigger's head through a plate-glass window.
Not so much the racial thing, but the fact that a lot of people join to get the pepper spray, the taser, the baton and the gun. To drive fast, to confiscate property which they then keep, to have people bow and scrape. Then you have people who really do want to hurt people with the protection of the blue wall.
It is a problem, and you don't have a whining ACLU member or a hippie to think so.
The ideal:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peelian_Principles
Can we get back to that?
Posted by: Britt at October 21, 2009 02:22 PM (DcWbe)
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Yes, We Cannabis
You'll be
hearing that quip a lot:
Federal drug agents won't pursue pot-smoking patients or their sanctioned suppliers in states that allow medical marijuana, under new legal guidelines to be issued Monday by the Obama administration.
Two Justice Department officials described the new policy to The Associated Press, saying prosecutors will be told it is not a good use of their time to arrest people who use or provide medical marijuana in strict compliance with state law.
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One of the only intelligent things this administration has done, in my opinion. The only time pot is hurting anybody is if it is being transported via Mexico, because they actually will kill over some weed. Elsewhere, it's grown by unkempt white kids in Northern California and the Pacific Northwest. They're not exactly a threat to Western civilization.
It's like with traffic stops. The only reason the gov't pursues marijuana like it does is that it is a bulky product with a distinctive odor, even before smoked. Easy conviction. Sending some of those wide-eyed longhairs to prison with meth producers and street-sale crack dealers, drugs that actually do some harm, is almost sadistic.
Posted by: GS at October 19, 2009 10:15 AM (w8ZVR)
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So the Feds will selectively enforce Federal law based upon adherence to specific State law?
Could this be useful in States that pass firearms laws intended to assert their rights under the Tenth Amendment?
Selective enforcement being well, selective.
Posted by: ThomasD at October 19, 2009 11:15 AM (21H5U)
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>>"prosecutors will be told it is not a good use of their time "
Great, this means they'll be spending their time cracking down on illegal immigration.
No? Then what WILL they spend their time doing? Prosecuting conservatives for "hate speech"?
Posted by: Steve at October 19, 2009 11:25 AM (1WsIY)
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Now if they would only understand that the money being spent on all the other drugs is going to organized crime and terrorist and allow people to buy whatever they desired at the drug store without a prescription, then we will have a measure of returned freedom. Imagine the impact it would have on doctor's offices and ER's if you could go to Walgreens and simply buy what you needed. Some countries allow this without significant consequence.
Posted by: David at October 19, 2009 03:54 PM (Lh/sO)
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Well, that makes a lot of sense, doesn't it? While threatening to tax those that aren't in reasonably good physical shape and taxing certain food items it doesn't approve of the government is now starting to trend towards allowing it's citizens to use a substance known to cause the munchies. Taxing food and encouraging the smoking of pot, that just might just provide enough tax revenues to take care of the deficit!
Posted by: Boss429 at October 19, 2009 07:56 PM (JtAl5)
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Next up: Dorito Flavored Ice Cream!
Posted by: MunDane at October 19, 2009 08:47 PM (dlS06)
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How do they know if people are using or providing pot within the strict confines of the law if they lay off and do no investigation?They're not saying that, though what they actually do remains to be seen. The guidelines to be issued by the department do, however, make it clear that agents will go after people whose marijuana distribution goes beyond what is permitted under state law or use medical marijuana as a cover for other crimes, the officials said.
I agree with very little that comes out of this Administration, but I think they got this one right.
Posted by: Pablo at October 20, 2009 01:43 AM (yTndK)
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I was going to write my own comment but this, which appeared at NRO's The Corner, covers most of what I would say:
Medical Marijuana and the States [Wesley J. Smith]
It is subversive of the rule of law for a president to refuse to enforce the law, and particularly to announce that unenforcement will be administration policy.
The correct answer to the medical-marijuana issue is for Congress to take it out of Schedule 1 of the Controlled Substances Act (no legitimate medical use) and put it into a different schedule, which would allow the FDA to approve cannabis for prescribing, as is done with stronger drugs such as morphine and cocaine.
Once presidents get to pick and choose which laws they will enforce, we have ceased to be a nation of laws. I made that point in more detail in this San Francisco Chronicle column from a few years ago.
10/19 09:46 PMShare
PS:
I look forward to Obama applying this judicious application of US law to the ATF and firearms.
Posted by: Davod at October 20, 2009 05:14 AM (GUZAT)
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will somebody please explain how a drug can be approved for medical use when it has never gone through FDA testing? And no it is not harmless.
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October 16, 2009
Ballon Bust?
Uh... this doesn't seem to match the Heene family balloon boy story:
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Isn't it illegal to lauch a balloon of this nature?
Also, there seems to be a degree of acting in their alarm that their son may be in the balloon. Note that they did not verify the concept, only started reacting to it.
Posted by: David at October 17, 2009 12:52 PM (Lh/sO)
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The family knew the boy wasn't in the balloon.
The father built it, he had to know how much it could lift.
Anyway, I went ahead and ran the numbers.
For the balloon to get off the ground with the boy in it, it would have had to hold 45,360 liters of He, or the equivalent of about 46 four foot weather balloons.
Posted by: Matt at October 18, 2009 09:15 AM (54Fjx)
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October 08, 2009
Infamous Pistol-Toting Soccer Mom Victim of Murder-Suicide
Meleanie Hain, who made the news last year after open-carrying to a youth soccer game and having her permit revoked and later reinstated, was
shot and killed last night in an apparent murder-suicide:
A Lebanon woman who gained national notoriety last year as a champion of Second Amendment rights after she brought her loaded handgun to her 5-year-old daughter's soccer game was shot and killed Wednesday night in an apparent murder-suicide.
Meleanie Hain, 31, and her husband, Scott Hain, 33, were pronounced dead by Lebanon County coroner Dr. Jeffrey Yocum shortly after 8:30 p.m. after a two-hour standoff with police outside their home at Second Avenue and East Grant Street. The episode ended quietly when police entered the house after trying to make contact with anyone inside.
No cause of death was announced, and autopsies were scheduled for today, said Yocum.
Lebanon police Chief Daniel Wright was guarded with information as detectives began the preliminary stages of the investigation late Wednesday night. He acknowledged that the Hains were both found dead and had suffered gunshot wounds inside their 1 ½-story brick home in a quiet neighborhood in Lebanon's southside. He would not provide any additional details, other than to say that police do not feel any other people were involved.
District Attorney David Arnold, who was at the scene, refused to comment.
Several neighbors said they heard or saw the couple's children run from the house screaming, "Daddy shot Mommy!" shortly before the 911 Center was called at 6:20 p.m.
Murder-suicides are among the most selfish of crimes, often depriving children of both parents and destroying their childhoods and their ability to trust and relate to others during their formative years.
Like the murder-attempted suicide that took place in my town yesterday morning, my thoughts and prayers go out to the traumatized children first and foremost as I wonder what can turn "love" into such selfish, family-destroying hate.
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I'll bet the anti's will be all over this like white on rice.
Everyone loses on this evil except the brady bunch.
Posted by: toaster802 at October 08, 2009 10:36 AM (zQ9Oe)
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of course guns are always good to bring to soccer games. They should be mandatory for all sporting events with discounted tickets available
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September 25, 2009
A Picture is Worth a Thousand Sounds
G20 protesters are complaining that they have come under the attack from LRADs, or Long Range Acoustic Devices. LRADs are capable of directing sound at extremely high decibels, and can be used to project a warning over distances in a focused "sonic beam," or can be used to cause pain through extremely loud sounds. Using LRADs in the latter manner would classify them as a less-than-lethal weapon, though one capable of causing permanent hearing loss.
The Drudge Report has a link this morning, "Video of 'Acoustic Weapons' Deployed on American Soil" that links to the following clip on YouTube.
But do you notice something about the way the "acoustic weapon" is being deployed? If you look at the video, it is clearly not being used as a weapon.
How do we know this?
Because if you watch the video, people cross back and forth in front the LRAD the entire time it is being used, and some even slow down or stop directly in front of it from mere yards away to shoot video, as this guy did.
The LRAD is the large gray disk mounted on the back of the black truck in the left of the frame. Moments before, a pair of young women wandered across the shot to no apparent ill effect, and seconds after, another videographer passed in front of the same device in the foot steps of the first.
I will readily agree that an LRAD can be used as a weapon. But I'd submit this very video as evidence it was not being used that way in Pittsburgh yesterday, at least now when captured on camera.
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Saw a clip on one of the networks last night showing the LRAD in use at the demonstrations, anarchists covering their ears while "shreiking" in pain and running away, meanwhile as you've pointed out others are in the vicinity showing no ill effects. It reminded me of the time Michelle Kosinski decided to go canoeing.
Posted by: wowbagger the infinitely prolonged at September 25, 2009 09:06 AM (cFGyS)
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Maybe it is like a dog whistle, at a range only the truly insane can hear. Of course, that theory means some of the G-20 protesters are sane so I may have some bugs to work out yet.
Or maybe half of the protesters have ruined their hearing through years of loud music. See? Your mother TOLD you to turn it down.
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What would be the big deal if it WERE being used as a weapon? It seems like a much friendlier device than a pistol, and all cops 'deploy' those in America.
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September 24, 2009
More than 40 Drug Dealers Arrested Near Site of Census Worker's Hanging in Past Month
A fact
underplayed even in those news sites that chose to report it.
Part-time census worker Bill Sparkman was found hanged in the Daniel Boone National Forest in Kentucky on September 12. Contrarys to what multiple news sites and left wing blogs have erroneously reported, Sparkman's body was recovered on the 12th in an advanced state of decomposition; he was not killed on the 12th.
Left wing media have eagerly posited that Sparkman's death was purposefully done on the 12th to coincide with the Tea Party Protest held in Washington, DC on that date. This is categorically false, and local police chief suspects that Sparkman may have stumbled across a meth lab:
However, the local police also consider it possible that Sparkman was killed because he came across illegal activity. A local police chief, Jeff Culver, said the area has a history of methamphetamine manufacturing and other drug trading.
"That part of the county, it has its ups and downs. We'll get a lot of complaints of drug activity. They'll whittle away, then flourish back up," he said.
Officially, authorities have not yet determined if the death was a homicide or a suicide.
9/25 Update: This account says Sparkman died early on 9/11, casting previous media accounts of the condition of his body at the time of recovery into question.
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Apparently his friend who is a former State Trooper warned him that this is an extremely rural area with not much of phones or communication. Basically people that are somewhat "cut off" from the outside world kind of like the movie "Deliverance". Democrat, Republican, Socialist, Utopian...doesn't matter. Wander inside some of these territories and you're as good as dead.
Posted by: Lipiwitz at September 24, 2009 08:16 PM (OX5qU)
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Where are you reading that he was killed earlier than the twelfth?
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Hey, sandbagger...figure it out for yourself...his body was FOUND on 9/12 in an ADVANCED state of decomposition. There is no way he was killed on the 12th.
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Sparkman was missing no later than the 10th as one of his friends couldn't locate him and then called the police on the 11th. I don't think it's been established exactly when he died, but it seems almost certain it was before the 12th. And yes, reports say the body was decomposed.
http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20090924/NEWS01/909240361/Census+worker+s+mysterious+death+probed
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Census Worker Found Hanged in KY
The state, not the lube.
The AP report states that Bill Sparkman, a 51-year-old part-time Census field worker, was found hanged from a tree with the word "fed" written on his chest in a remote corner of Daniel Boone National Forest.
Predictably, the usual suspects are suggesting that Rush Limbaugh threw the rope over the branch and Glenn Beck tied the knot.
The only problems with that theory is:
- lack of evidence
- lack of evidence, and
- lack of evidence
And while liberals are quick to blame the vast right wing conspiracy for Mr. Sparkman's death, they had to overlook this part of the story to do so:
Appalachia scholar Roy Silver, a New York City native now living in Harlan County, Ky., said he doesn't sense an outpouring of anti-government sentiment in the region as has been exhibited in town hall meetings in other parts of the country.
"I don't think distrust of government is any more or less here than anywhere else in the country," said Silver, a sociology professor at Southeast Community College.
Hopefully the investigation into Mr. Sparkman's death will lead to the arrest, prosecution, and conviction of the person or persons responsible for his death. And I rather suspect that when they do find a motive, it will have very little to do with politics and quite a bit to do with him stumbling across marijuana farming, meth labs, or moonshining.
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"The state, not the lube" lol
Posted by: Lipiwitz at September 24, 2009 01:10 AM (bhNGz)
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americablog specifcally says it is too early to link this to a political motive yet you say the usual suspects are blaming Limbaugh and Beck and link there. You might want to fix that. I'll go ahead and hold my breath.
Posted by: John at September 24, 2009 06:08 AM (RPIBb)
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I'd suspect a moonshining rig in that area.
Posted by: Lord Nazh at September 24, 2009 07:18 AM (sBNzZ)
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"americablog specifcally says it is too early to link this to a political motive"
You're as dishonest as americablog. What they say is -
"It's too early in the investigation to link this to the Republican demonization of the Census in particular (ACORN) and the US government in general (suggesting that the Obama administration was full of communists bent on destroying our country)."
In other words they say it's too early to link it to a political motive at the exact same time as they link it to a political motive.
But I'm touched that the left suddenly thinks that demonizing the government is a bad thing, now that BusHitler and his reichwinger SS no longer run it.
Posted by: Steve at September 24, 2009 08:24 AM (PN3VA)
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Typically pot farmers and meth cookers don't murder federal employees and display their bodies in a provocative manner that essentially guarantees a thorough investigation. As a rule, they really like to keep a lower profile than that. This is the type of crime that usually turns out be politically motivated. If so, people pushing insane theories about the census or the federal government in general will indeed bear some moral, if not legal, responsibility for this murder.
Please note the various qualifiers.
Posted by: MS at September 24, 2009 08:38 AM (5SZ5z)
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>>"people pushing insane theories about the census or the federal government in general will indeed bear some moral, if not legal, responsibility for this murder."
When you accept moral responsibility for the murder of JFK, get back to me on this. Until that time, can it.
Posted by: Steve at September 24, 2009 08:46 AM (PN3VA)
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One has to remember the folks in eastern Ky dont like people askin questions and when the questions are from a Fed worker it will make matters worse. With all the coal miners, and coal haulers out of work in eastern Ky I dont think I would go around saying "Hi, I'm from the Federal Government and I would like to ask you a few questions"....Paw get your shotgun would be the next thing the Fed worker would hear.
Posted by: Joe at September 24, 2009 09:21 AM (3u/pA)
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Better stay away from Copperhead Road.
Posted by: Tully at September 24, 2009 09:31 AM (tUyDE)
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Could Steve possibly explain his total non-sequitur to me? I have no idea what point he's trying to make. While I was alive (although in elementary school) when JFK was killed, I wasn't going around spouting nonsensical theories about the White House being secretly run by the Vatican, or controlled by the Kremlin, so I don't think I bear any responsibility, moral or legal, for his death.
And for the record, yes, I think Bill O'Reilly bears some moral, although probably not legal, responsibility for the murder of Dr. Tiller.
Posted by: MS at September 24, 2009 09:40 AM (5SZ5z)
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Bill O'Reilly? How so?
Posted by: Calumet7 at September 24, 2009 11:07 AM (arVyR)
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Calumet7-
they claim that because O'Reilly pointed out that Tiller killed kids older than my niephew was at birth, he's responsible for Tiller being killed in some fashion.
Because, y'know, pointing out facts is horrifically biased.
This crime sounds to me like someone trying to disguise a murder, and doing a piss-poor job of it.
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Yeah, what sort of crazy idjit would think that a census-worker being murdered right when the 9/12 protests were happening, with the word "FED" on his chest, & right after nice people like Glenn Beck told millions of Americans that he & people like him were the enemy - to be resisted at any cost, by any means necessary - has anything whatsoever to do with those same nice people repeatedly comparing census-workers to the Gestapo &/or Stalinist Commissars? The NERVE!
It's good to know that the finest minds at FreeRepublic have already blown the whistle on the obvious perps ... ACORN! This false-flag lynching will surely not go unpunished for long: I'm sure that his volunteer school-aid work made Sparkman many enemies in this nefarious crypto-socialist cabal, & they had to silence him before he revealed the truth about their mandatory blood-oath to serve Lucifer (& Kylie Minogue).
Congratulations on taking the responsible route & not jumping to unwarranted conclusions over what is plainly a politically sensational crime-story (*cough cough* Ashley Todd *cough*).
Posted by: jim at September 24, 2009 02:24 PM (2TjV9)
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>>"what sort of crazy idjit would think that a census-worker being murdered right when the 9/12 protests were happening ..."
A crazy idjit like you, as he was NOT murdered on 9/12. Facts and liberals don't mix.
Posted by: Steve at September 24, 2009 03:05 PM (QnU4y)
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>>"Could Steve possibly explain his total non-sequitur to me?"
It's no non-sequiter. It's your own stupid thought procesess reflected back at you. You're a man of the left. So was JFK's killer. Hence you bear some "moral responsibility" for what the left does, including kill JFK.
If that sort of thinkng bothers you in others, then stop engaging in it yourself.
Posted by: Steve at September 24, 2009 03:09 PM (QnU4y)
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Typically pot farmers and meth cookers don't murder federal employees and display their bodies in a provocative manner that essentially guarantees a thorough investigation.
Really?
Just how well versed are you in the 'typical' murder of informants/federales by the Appalachian narco mountain boyz?
Because I work all through eastern KY and travel that area every month (Harlan up through to Hazard.) I'm willing to bet that they don't play by
anybodies rules.
That CSM article quotes a guy talking about 'roads that have never been paved' and he's not kidding.
Posted by: ThomasD at September 24, 2009 03:54 PM (21H5U)
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That CSM article quotes a guy talking about 'roads that have never been paved' and he's not kidding.
I grew up (partly) in such an area. Some "warning" killings happened around Modoc county, when folks got too nosy in...uh...unofficial import areas. All the locals know that if you come over a hill and there's a camper and evidence of folks being there, but they're not showing themselves, you get your cows and get the heck out without even looking like you were looking.
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September 14, 2009
ACORN: Rotten to the Core
Auctioning
Childrens
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Busted for the third time helping a "pimp" and "prostitute" illegally acquire housing loans for a brothel to traffic in under-age illegal aliens. ACORN is a corrupt and possibly criminal enterprise, and all federal and state associations and funding to the group should immediately be severed.
The Department of Justice must launch an investigation immediately, and if they fail to do so, Eric Holder needs to step down as Attorney General.
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December 16, 2008
Closure? Adam Walsh Murder Case Closed After 27 Years
Ottis Toole, always a suspect, has officially been
named as the murderer of Adam Walsh. Walsh was killed and decapitated in 1981, and Toole signed a confession in 1983 that he later recanted. Toole, a convicted serial killer, died in prison in 1996. The case is now finally closed after all these years.
If you're much younger than I am—say under 30—you may not know much about his disappearance and murder, but you still live in a world profoundly touched by the Adam's kidnapping and murder, in ways big and small.
Adam's death spurred his parents to help create the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.
In addition, President Bush signed the Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act in 2006 to help track sex offenders.
John Walsh has helped put over a thousand fugitive behind bars as the host of America's Most Wanted. Copycat programs by local news media and law enforcement agencies have netted thousands of fugitives more.
Walmart named the nearly ubiquitous "Code Adam" missing child alert they created after him. If you've ever had a child wander away in a store, it is this procedure that locks the store down and hopefully keeps predators from being able to escape with them. Pictures of missing kids on milk cartons. Dedicated missing persons units in large police departments. Increased security in schools, malls, and elsewhere. All have their roots in the agony of the Walsh family, and their tireless advocacy to try to make sure that other families don't have to experience what they did.
I'm certain there is never real closure with the death of a child, but perhaps knowing that Adam's case is finally closed can bring some peace to a family that has done so much to keep others from feeling a similar loss.
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For better or worse the Adam Walsh murder and John Walsh's crusade afterward were also a big part of creating the climate of much greater fear that parents and children live in today. Studies have shown that the control parents expect to maintain over their children's activities is vastly higher today than 30 years ago. Children are taught a high level of suspicion and fear of strangers as well. The loss of a child is a horrific thing - but I would argue that the cost to children in terms of cultural changes in order to avoid events that actually are extemely rare has been high.
Posted by: Gasminder at December 17, 2008 06:25 AM (sKYE9)
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One thing was never in question with Toole - he was a sick pervert, one of the most disgusting characters to gain attention in the 20th century. My question is why suddenly have authorities decided a man who died in '96 who lied every chance he got, confessed and recanted to this crime and was partners to one of the biggest liar/recanters (Henry Lee Lucas) in the annals of murder... why do we suddenly decide "he's the one"? I've read numerous accounts of this "late breaking story" and not one has revealed what solid evidence finally brings them to this conclusion. I would think the only thing to ease my mind as a parent would be DNA evidence that proved beyond a reasonable doubt but all accounts I see say all DNA evidence was long gone. Any answers?
Posted by: Don Welles at December 17, 2008 06:53 AM (cbDKt)
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Don Welles, that has been my question, too. No mention of why now, it has just been "case is closed."
Posted by: Stoutcat at December 17, 2008 09:43 AM (kKdtK)
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From the reports I've seen/read, the closure of this case is due to a new police chief in the controlling jurisdiction (Hollywood, I think). He took a look at the still open case, read the file, and drew "obvious conclusions".
Posted by: PhyCon at December 17, 2008 10:27 AM (4od5C)
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Aside from the closure the Walch family may be experiencing, the fact that the rate of murderers caught is even worse than it was in 1969. Even with all the techno advances we see on CSI TV programs, only 61% of murders are solved nowadays vs, 93% back in 1969. The numbers are troubling although I'm very happy that we still continue to get these bad guys off the street.
Posted by: Tonto (USA) at December 17, 2008 12:49 PM (Qv1xF)
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To say that John Walsh is responsible for the higher level of suspicion in today's culture is ridiculous. It's the evil that has arisen in this increasingly sex-obsessed and violent culture that has caused REASONABLE response of suspicion. Do you lock your doors at night?? Why?? Because of John Walsh?? Or because of the very REAL threat of someone committing a crime??
That's such a copout to blame the victims and the victim-advocates instead of the criminals for the rise in suspicion and awareness.
Maybe you could think it through and apologize. Please don't blame the victims. Blame the criminals.
God bless the Walsh family.
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If anyone's interested, there's an account from someone who worked with John Walsh over at Grand Rants:
http://grandrants.wordpress.com/2008/12/18/adam-walsh-report-whats-wrong-with-this-story/
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how can you close a case withiut the body of
the child? i would want to know where my childs
body is ,so i can put him to rest before
closing the case
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"Maybe you could think it through and apologize. Please don't blame the victims. Blame the criminals."
Please try to read the comment before criticizing. I did not blame the victims, I said "For better or worse the Adam Walsh murder and John Walsh's crusade afterward were also a big part of creating the climate of much greater fear that parents and children live in today" and I stand by that statement.
Further - I'd argue that there is no greater risk today than there was 30 years ago - instead there is a greater PERCEPTION of risk due to the enhanced media coverage which was driven in SOME part by the events described.
And in answer to your question - no I do not lock my doors as night even though I reside in the 4th largest city in the nation. Never got in the habit due to a rural upbringing and haven't started it now due to my opinion that locks just keep honest people honest. If someone wants in your house they will enter it - however if I am at home they are quite unlikely to leave it in a vertical position.
Posted by: Gasminder at December 19, 2008 11:35 AM (sKYE9)
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Sincerely,
I hope that the discovery of adam walsh"s killer will bring closer to that murder case, and that all the work that Americas most wanted has done over the years will be recognized, and that John Walsh can be seen as a crusader and a fighter for the rights of crime victims,
Truely,
Bob Cline
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December 05, 2008
The Facebook Friends Murder
Wake County NC authorities have identified the body recovered behind an unoccupied dwelling as 18-year-old Matthew Josiah Silliman, who had been the subject of a Silver Alert for missing adults with certain mental impairments in late November.
Four area high school students that were Sillimans' "friends" on Facebook are now facing murder charges in Silliman's death:
As Silliman's identity was being confirmed, four Wake County high school students who are connected to him through the social networking site Facebook were denied bond when they appeared in court for the first time to face murder charges in his death.
Allegra Rose Dahlquist, 17, of 601 Walcott Way, Cary; Ryan Patrick Hare, 18; of 100 Walnut Hill Court, Apex; Aadil Shahid Khan, 17, of 901 Bristol Blue St., Apex; and Drew Logan Shaw, 16, of 107 Woolard Way, Apex, had been arrested Wednesday.
All four were in the Wake County jail Thursday evening. Their next court appearance is scheduled for Dec. 22.
Authorities have not released either a cause of death for Silliman, nor have they provided a motive for his murder. The WRAL reporter, however, hints at a possible angle:
Family members declined to comment after the brief court hearing, but Billy Shenk, a friend of Shaw's, said he and the 16-year-old were part of a "juggalo" crew, which Shenk described as a group of outcasts.
"It's not a gang, not violence," he said. "It's just a group of people who are tired of being picked on and everything, so we just form together and grew strong."
Shenk added that he does not think Shaw is a violent person.
"He's a really good kid after you guys get to know him. All these people are saying Gothic kids are the reason for all this. No, it's not," he said.
On his MySpace page, Shaw, a sophomore at Panther Creek High School in Cary, referred to himself as a "juggalo," which also denotes a fan of the hip-hop group Insane Clown Posse.
A friend of Shaw's, in a posting on his MySpace page Thursday, described it as "a state of mind," and belief in the Dark Carnival, a fictional theme in the group's albums. Numerous other Web sites explain the term in other details.
I said the reporter provided a hint; I didn't say it was necessarily a good one.
Various musical genres have been blamed for playing a role in homicides and suicides for as long as I can remember, and if these suspects shared musical interests it can indicate that they are acculturated similarly, but it does not mean that the music is a trigger for the murder. If it was we'd have emos and goths and juggalos offing people (or more likely, themselves) at an astounding rate, or at least that greater than say, Britney Spears fans.
That said, it is possible that law enforcement beleives the Dark Carnival mythology played a role in Silliman's death. If that is the contention of authorities or this reporter, however, they haven't yet decided to share why they think that was a contributing factor.
It will be interesting to see what, if any role Facebook postings by the deceased or the accused play in this case, and if they are used in the trials by either the prosecution or defense.
Facebook and MySpace pages and similar social media sites will continue to playa greater role in both criminal investigations and the background investigations by journalists of both crime suspects, and victims. As we become more immersed in the technology, the technology is going to strip away our anonymity and provide possible insights into our motivations. Profilers and criminal psychologists are going to have a field day once they start grasping and data-mining the technology. Let's just hope they draw the right decisions from what they discover.
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Obviously the real culprit here is Facebook, which by recklessly providing their web service to all comers is directly responsible for this young man's death.
Consider - Facebook is explicitly designed to "bring people together", despite that a murder cannot even occur unless the victim and killer are first brought together. And then, to compound this, they offer this service indiscriminately to everyone regardless of age or experience or intent.
Now some fanatics may make the specious argument that Facebook and other facilitators of murder are protected by the First Amendment, but the simple fact is that the Amendment was designed to permit governments and media outlets to communicate, and does not confer an individual right.
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November 24, 2008
A Bird In Hand
While roughly 6,600 of us have concealed carry permits here in Wake County, none were around yesterday when Fred Ervin robbed a BP gas station and then crossed the street to carjack a woman loading groceries into her car. When Ervin attacked Irene Moorman Bailey to get her keys, other shoppers who stepped in to stop the assault were forced to resort to
fowl play:
"The lady was being beaten on the ground. She was lying on the ground and the guy was on top of her – physically hitting her," shopper Randy Owens said.
Bystanders intervened and hit the man in the head with a frozen turkey that Bailey bought, police said.
"I was just grocery shopping, like any other day, and I happened to come out and I saw all this chaos that just had happened," shopper Leanne Sweet said.
"Several people interceded and tried to get him away from her," Owens said.
The man managed to get into Bailey's 2001 Nissan Maxima and hit five other cars while escaping from the parking lot, officers said.
"He backed across and he hit the Cadillac and our car, and hit another car that was parked," Owens said.
"My bumper's cracked and the whole side is dented in," Sweet said.
Officers found Fred Ervin, 30, in Bailey's car, Fuquay-Varina police said. Ervin was taken to WakeMed with a serious head wound. He was listed in fair condition Sunday evening.
When Ervin is released, police said he will face these charges: assault with a deadly weapon with intent to kill, assault with a deadly weapon inflicting serious injury, robbery, driving with a revoked license, hit and run and larceny.
I love my peeps.
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I hope they decide to add a nice federal carjacking charge on top of it all, so he's cooped up for a looong time.
Posted by: Tim at November 24, 2008 09:10 AM (sp1sQ)
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You can have my cold, dead poultry when you pry it from my, uh -- cold, clammy hands?
Posted by: RNB at November 24, 2008 10:13 AM (fe/Mk)
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Obviously this only underscores the urgent need for the immediate registration of all Assault Turkeys. This tragedy could have been easily avoided if this deadly weapon had been properly restrained with a Giblet-Lock, or if the Federally Mandated six day waiting period for the purchase of Federally Restricted Fowl had been in place.
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Remember Georg, if we outlaw turkeys, only outlaws would have turkeys.
By the way, I am pro 2nd Admwndment, but that paraphrased sentence is the dumbest thing pur side has come up with.
Posted by: David at November 24, 2008 04:57 PM (0+8YY)
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If the state had not banned semi-auto turkeys he would have never gotten away in the first place. Those single shot turkeys are just too slow and inefficient for adequate personal defense.
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June 25, 2008
Multi-Gunshot Suicides Soon to Be On the Rise
So says the
Supreme Court.
There is a macabre old urban legend that has floated around for years in which an exceedingly bad person—a wife-beater, a child-abuser, or other such societal dreg—is found perforated with bullets, and knowing local law enforcement officials note that the miscreant's death was a serious suicide, where the deceased if found having shot himself in the head and/or back multiple times, in some variations even taking the time to reload an empty weapon and fire again.
Such stories, of course, are told with a knowing smile.
We find before us—and perhaps a bit beneath us—a Supreme Court of the United States that in this session has found more sympathy and more previously unknown rights for suspected terrorists and child rapists than it has for the average American.
From Bagram to Baltimore, expect to hear some names and dates begin to be associated with this and similar urban legends.
It is a truism of the human experience that when a people sees their system of justice fail due to inequities in the judicial process, they will find justice on their own.
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Can a modern day country survive when the only justice is that which you take yourself? I've watched several cases of late that were decided by 'liberal' judges that made me say to myself 'if one of my family members was involved there is no power on earth to stop me from taking revenge', on the killer/rapist and the so called judge. That's what the socialist/communist/democrat party has brought you.
Posted by: Scrapiron at June 25, 2008 02:14 PM (I4yBD)
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With their "decision" (it really wasn't, was it?), I think The Gang of Five has just unwittingly passed the "Community Vigilante Enabling Act of 2008."
Then again, I've got a better idea: work for legislation that will require child rapists to remain in general prison populations once incarcerated.
The good news for these evil excuses for human beings is that they won't officially get the death penalty. Unfortunately, the bad news will be that their fellow inmates will quickly pass their own judgments upon them.
Posted by: MarkJ at June 25, 2008 03:30 PM (ZFVlP)
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Justice occurs in court rooms only by happenstance.
Justice != administration of the law
Posted by: Purple Avenger at June 25, 2008 05:54 PM (dcqty)
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A town bully terrorized residents of a Missouri town over a decade ago. Someone got tired of it, and the man died. I don't believe the murder was ever solved.
I think lenient courts have caused other examples of secret vigilanti justice.
Posted by: James at June 25, 2008 06:04 PM (3S/2Y)
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The concept being what, O purveyors of Justice in Your Own Minds? You're going to break into prison and execute those filthy criminals that the cout didn't have the courage to kill?
Or, even more ridiculously, are you arguing that failing to kill them through the power of the state is tantamount to releasing them back into society? Perhaps it's time to put down the phony outrage, folks. It's starting to get a little threadbare.
Posted by: Officious Pedant at June 25, 2008 06:05 PM (688sS)
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You're going to break into prison and execute those filthy criminals
No need. They get shanked by the other prisoners once the nature of their crime is discovered.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at June 25, 2008 06:25 PM (dcqty)
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With their "decision" (it really wasn't, was it?), I think The Gang of Five has just unwittingly passed the "Community Vigilante Enabling Act of 2008."
Typical idiotic wingnut response. Please provide information about incidents of this in each of the 46 states that don't execute child rapists.
Posted by: slammin' sammy at June 25, 2008 06:32 PM (wQLtx)
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OK, so let me get this straight. Conservatives are OUTRAGED by this ruling. No one has been executed in the US for anything other than murder in over 44 years. Only one state out of 50 has recently expanded its death penalty to include rape of a child. Two people out of approx. 3500 on death row nationally were scheduled to be executed for child rape, and they were sentenced to death only recently when said state changed its statute.
How the HELL does this ruling change anything for you death penalty enthusiasts?
If you want to expand the death penalty so much, advocate China's execution policies, why don't ya! Embezzlement, drug trafficking, government bribery acceptance? All punishable by death.
I don't think you want to go down the slippery slope of death penalty expansion. It would include too many people beloved by conservatives.
Posted by: Ted at June 25, 2008 07:02 PM (9g+PP)
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I don't think you want to go down the slippery slope of death penalty expansion. It would include too many people beloved by conservatives.
I find your views intriguing and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
Posted by: toby928 at June 25, 2008 07:14 PM (PD1tk)
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Sort of like the way that Jeffery Dahmer was left alone with a known homicidal lunatic for just a few minutes and was unofficially executed.
Posted by: Shoprat at June 25, 2008 07:20 PM (FkH+p)
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"How the HELL does this ruling change anything for you death penalty enthusiasts?"
Think. Use some logic here.
The five justices decided this case not on the plain language of the Constitution nor on existing case law. Their decision was not based on an established standard of jurisprudence but on where they felt public opinion was evolving.
IN short, they circumvented the will of the people as expressed by the lawful democratic process based on their own suppositions of what the public thought on the matter instead of what the law said.
That has implications that extend far beyond the death penalty. I am sure that such an outspoken member of the "reality-based community" can apply cool reason and extrapolate what some of those consequences might be.
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IN short, they circumvented the will of the people as expressed by the lawful democratic process based on their own suppositions of what the public thought on the matter instead of what the law said.
Ken Lay, executed. The Dukestir? Executed. Jeff Skilling? Gone. That's where it will lead: back to execution for theft, feeding a fugitive, etc, etc, all of which used to be common practice in this country.
You really want to go down this slope?
Anyway, the conservative outrage is hilarious on its own. SCOTUS makes a ruling conservatives love: good jurisprudence and adherence to the Constitution. SCOTUS makes a ruling conservatives hate: absolute violation of the will of the people and adherence to arbitrary standards.
Just shut up the whining.
Posted by: Ted at June 25, 2008 07:45 PM (9g+PP)
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SCOTUS makes a ruling conservatives love: good jurisprudence and adherence to the Constitution. SCOTUS makes a ruling conservatives hate: absolute violation of the will of the people and adherence to arbitrary standards.
Yes, and? Would you have us applaud violations of the peoples' will? Or, lament good jurisprudence? I don't quite see where you're going here.
Posted by: toby928 at June 25, 2008 07:57 PM (PD1tk)
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Yes, and? Would you have us applaud violations of the peoples' will? Or, lament good jurisprudence? I don't quite see where you're going here.
It's hilarious that you think any time SCOTUS makes a ruling you like, it's "good jurisprudence", and any time it doesn't, it's "violations of the peoples'[sic] will". Not sure if you get that though.
Have any of you morons actually read any part of either Justice Kennedy's or Alito's majority or dissenting opinions? They boil down to this:
Kennedy: Execution is not a proportional punishment for rape of a child.
Alito: Yes it is!!
Seriously, he didn't even try to couch it in some constitutional principle, and mentioned states' rights as an afterthought. Alito's main argument was simply that it WAS proportional. So if you want to whine about arbitrary rulings made on the basis of opinion about proportionality, well, just quit whining.
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Kennedy: Execution is not a proportional punishment for rape of a child.
Alito: Yes it is!!
Well, the problem is that Kennedy justified that it wasn't proportional based on evolving standards of decency. Given that the trend has been to ADD the death penalty for agg child rape, the evidence is that the evolution points towards a greater acceptance of the death penalty for this crime.
Posted by: XBradTC at June 25, 2008 09:17 PM (kddTy)
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Ted, wanna talk about proportionality?
Try this one on for size.
A "proportional" punishment for a crime would be to have the same thing done to the perpetrator. But wouldn't that, by definition, be "cruel," since most crimes are cruel?
Maybe ya really don't want "proportional" punishment, hmmm?
Posted by: C-C-G at June 25, 2008 09:20 PM (Hc4y8)
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I actually am appalled that the death penalty has been remitted for this man. He was already a child rapist, convicted and released into the public to rape again. I think he should be eliminated. I think the Justices were wrong to limit the death penalty to death and state reasons.
Also I think they are more likely to withdraw those later, based on this one.
But the real problem is they want an "evolving" "public opinion." I want something based on the Constitution. And, yes, I have read Kennedy's piece.
Posted by: Suzi at June 25, 2008 10:51 PM (7bGob)
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Oops. I read the news and it said "serial child rapist." I assumed that he had been convicted. Actually the person he is accused of raping first did not turn him in. (Very common for rapes by people known to the survivor.)
Posted by: Suzi at June 25, 2008 11:24 PM (7bGob)
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I actually made the slippery slope argument on my blog and it was pointed out that we carry out a death penalty as punishment and nothing else.
My only question is though, what would be the line and who would decide? The only problem is, I would probably prefer torture to child rapists anyhow...oh yeah, then kill em'.
Posted by: Torino Rossi at June 26, 2008 02:58 AM (KiZW8)
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Applying the death penalty for child rape is a terrible idea and only serves to encourage child murder.
If the crimes of both child rape and child murder carry the same ultimate penalty, then the rapist has nothing to lose if he proceeds to murder his victim after the act. He does, however, have plenty to gain by murdering his victim - namely the elimination of the most important eyewitness to his crime. If the rapist knows that he won't be put to death for child rape, but will be for child murder, then he actually has an incentive to leave his victim alive, which actually makes it more likely that he'll be caught before he claims a new victim.
If you truly care about the welfare of children, then why would you want to encourage rapists to murder the children they rape? Yes, child rape is a horrific crime, but it's better that the child survive the experience than end up dead. How can you possibly argue that the death penalty for child rape improves things?
Posted by: Alex at June 26, 2008 10:01 AM (RXsO5)
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Ted:
One can understand your position supporting the Supreme Courts making up the law out of thin air. Its well known that the people's will is to be disregarded by superior beings above the law and unaccountable to the popular will.
It is understandable that you feel child rapists should be protected. It is clear what your maoral standards are and what your education backgroundf must be to posit that only murder deserves the death penalty.
This will no doubt make those who torture and leave their victims permanently scarred or disabled happy. It will make those who lose their life savings joyful. It will encourage those who plan treason.
Thanks for your intellectual vigor and brillant analysis. I'm sure you're just the kind of candidate Obama wants for the court.
Posted by: Thomas Jackson at June 26, 2008 04:46 PM (LHaZf)
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Alex, the same argument can be made for punishing child rapists at all. Granting that there is a greater desire to avoid the death penalty, there is still a very strong impetus to avoid any other sort of penalty, such as life in prison without parole.
So the possibility of killing the victim already exists, to avoid imprisonment; especially given the well-known propensity of prison inmates to "take care of" child rapists themselves. I don't see where taking away one form of punishment lessens that risk to the victim by any more than a minuscule amount.
Posted by: C-C-G at June 26, 2008 05:49 PM (Hc4y8)
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The ruling to uphold the constitution on gun ownership should be good for the American Communist party (aka democrats) who are suffering BDS. When President Bush returns to Tx to enjoy life millions of BDS sufferers will be looking for a way out. Legally purchasing a firearm will help them along the path.
Posted by: Scrapiron at June 27, 2008 11:31 AM (GAf+S)
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May 20, 2008
Third Cop Found Guilty in Botched Atlanta Raid; War Contagion Probably to Blame
Arthur Tesler has been found guilty of making false statements in a case resulting from the shooting death of a 92-year-old woman during a botched Atlanta drug raid. Gregg Junnier and Jason Smith were two other officers involved in the raid who have already pled guilty to federal conspiracy charges.
Smith was profiled in a botched New York Times article claiming that veterans were responsible for a disproportionate number of violent crimes.
Expect the Times to now explain how Smith's war-related violence became contagious and affected Junnier and Tesler.
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Bomb Detonates in Front of NC School, Moron Bombers Injured
May Day. A great day to relax, enjoy spring weather, and
attempt to throw pipe bombs at schools.
Acting on an anonymous tip, Sampson County deputies found a Chevrolet minivan outside Sampson Regional Medical Center with a side window blown out and blast marks on the outside of a door, authorities said.
Inside the hospital emergency room, Martin Bryant Boyette and Julio Frentez Morales were receiving treatment for injuries from a bomb blast, authorities said. An investigation determined that the pair had made several bombs at Boyette's house, where both lived, and Morales tried to throw one out the window of the minivan on U.S. Highway 701 as they drove past Hobbton Schools, authorities said.
The bomb went off in Morales' hand, seriously injuring him, and a piece of shrapnel hit Boyette in the back of the head, authorities said.
"It's scary to think that these individuals were going to throw an explosive device out of a vehicle in front of a school," Sampson County Sheriff Jimmy Thornton said in a statement. "What were they thinking? What possible thrill could be worth potentially injuring an innocent person, especially a child?"
Follow the link, and you'll be shocked, shocked to discover that other explosives—and drugs—were found in a search of their home. Luckily this special class of moron is mercifully rare everywhere, and getting rarer day-by-day.
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I find it disturbing that Boyette was held for $35,000 for a bomb while Lisa Mooring was held for $200,000 for drug. Both crimes are awful but the drugs worse than the bomb? Since he threw the bomb, he had intent to injure or kill.
Posted by: Denny at May 02, 2008 01:12 PM (+hnIk)
Posted by: baldilocks at May 02, 2008 01:39 PM (+p46f)
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I'm sure they found quite a bit of porn there too. Tweakers and porn go hand-in-hand.
Posted by: thebronze at May 02, 2008 01:51 PM (kdYxN)
Posted by: chris at May 02, 2008 02:05 PM (IcTtQ)
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'Course in South Carolina a Ryan Schallenberger wanted to blow up a high school, die, go to heaven, and kill Jesus. Prosecutors thinks he needs a psychological exam. Gee, ya think? What the heck is in the water down there?
I tried to put a link but appearently CNN is questionable content.
Posted by: David at May 02, 2008 02:08 PM (+NV2F)
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I'm guessing his bail is lower than hers because they figure he won't be throwing anymore bombs anytime soon...
Posted by: Mr. Bingley at May 02, 2008 02:24 PM (jii9y)
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Higher bail for the drug dealer because drug dealers have lots of money. Though which of them was the boss is not clear. Neither made bail anyway.
The guy who blew his hand off made bail, but as Mr. Bingley noted, he's not much of a threat now.
Posted by: RIch Rostrom at May 02, 2008 04:47 PM (Cm4vt)
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Fortunately, most moron bombers take care of the problem themselves, by the "oops, BOOM!" method.
Posted by: C-C-G at May 02, 2008 06:39 PM (RP0Mk)
Posted by: jb at May 02, 2008 07:15 PM (HrVHr)
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Kids, drugs're bad, mmmmkaay?
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March 06, 2008
UNC Student Body President Gunned Down
A body was found, shot multiple times in the head, yesterday morning about a half-mile from the University of North Carolina campus in Chapel Hill.
She has now been identified.
Chapel Hill police have identified a woman found dead near the University of North Carolina campus Wednesday morning as the university's student body president.
UNC senior Eve Carson, 22, was found shot multiple times in the head about a half-mile from campus.
The News & Observer seems to hint that the murder may have occurred during a carjacking.
Investigators are looking for Carson's stolen 2005 blue Toyota Highlander with Georgia license plate AIV 6690. They believe the vehicle was taken during the crime.
What a shame, to lose such a promising young person to seemingly random violence.
The University's statement is here.
Police are asking anyone with information to call 919-968-2760.
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No doubt they will be rounding up the hockey team for questioning.
Posted by: Tregonsee at March 06, 2008 04:05 PM (ezKKG)
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UNC4evr is one funny guy.
But here's a tip. It's tragedy +
time = comedy.
See, you need to give it a day or two before you turn this tragic murder into a cheap joke.
Posted by: David Terrenoire at March 06, 2008 10:54 PM (Bx4FB)
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Dude,
That wasn't a cheap joke. I'm serious and I know what I'm talking about. I currently go to school there.
Posted by: UNC4evr at March 07, 2008 01:44 AM (+y6ne)
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Interesting and sad, mostly sad.
Last Tuesday night down south a ways at Auburn U. Lauren Burk was shot just three miles off campus.
Her car was found torched near the campus.
Bunch of bad hoodoo going on here.
Posted by: Urban Scopion at March 07, 2008 09:12 AM (DfROI)
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Alas, it is not random senseless violence. It is planned, preprogrammed, and entirely forseeable attacks on people who have been systematically disarmed.
Imagine if she had a holster in her car. Empty is does nothing. Now imagine that whe had a .44 Special Charter Arms revolver in it. Then, instead of being murdered, she would have had a chance to perforate the thugs, perhaps even removing a chance for the criminal defense lawyers to make money.
Then the criminal prosecution lawyers would have had to decide to go after her for not having the good taste to submit to the thugs and the lawyers who ban self defense. Well, if criminal prosecution lawyers did that very often, they would rightly be regarded as scum. As it is, they are elevated to the pinnacle of society, as we desparately need them to protect us from the thugs, against whom we are forbidden to protect outselves.
Ask yourself: Who benefits from having civilian holsters be empty?
Answer: Criminal defense lawyers. Criminal prosecution lawyers. Police.
Posted by: Don Meaker at March 08, 2008 11:55 AM (PWj7B)
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