1 Yeah, but Cary is the overpriced area in Wake County, too. When my parents moved to the Triangle, they picked a spot that's almost in Durham County, and only 10 minutes or so from the airport. There weren't any schools nearby when we moved there, but now there's the Leesville schools, which are some of the best in the county. And you get a whole bunch more yard than in Cary. Did I mention it's not part of any city, so you only pay county taxes? I live in NYC now, but I think that living in the best city in the world is enough to put up with the taxes and real estate issues (as for the schools, we're going the homeschool route -- and the "cultural capital" here makes it a fabulous choice). That's not true for Poughkeepsie, of course.

2 I'd heard about the Containment Area before I relocated here from my native California. That's why I live on the western edge of Wake county. When I came here, I did so intending to fit in as much as possible - not a difficult thing for me, really, since NC values are much like the values of the CA where I grew up in the 60s. Plus, I figure if you're going to relocate to get away from the crappiness of, say, New York, it's best to leave your crappy New York mindset behind... something the majority of yankees seem to have neglected to do. They go to all the trouble of leaving Craptown, and then they try to make this place into a small Craptown. Idiots.

3 I'm also not sure what Russ means by a "crappy New York mindset." While I left New York for the reasons noted in the article, I've always gotten along well with the folks from upstate New York who seem to be the bulk of New Yorkers moving this way. They're good folks.

4 Indeed. Perhaps "New York City mindset" would have better conveyed my idea. The crappy mindset is more a function of big cities, regardless of where they are geographically. Having lived in LA, Chicago, and the San Francisco Bay Area, I've seen the attitudes in action up close and personal. People leave the big cities to go to smaller towns, and then complain because there isn't an opera company or a Zabar's in their new town. Cry me a river.

5 Actually, having moved from Raleigh to NYC, I've gotta say that many of the =residents= here are very nice people. I've talked to more strangers here than I ever did growing up in the South (part of that is a volume situation, and the fact I ride mass transit instead of driving now.) That said, I couldn't stand the Yankees who invaded the South, bitching about not getting a decent bagel or hating the local minor league ice hockey team (which forthwith got replaced with an overpriced NHL team). If you wanted your Yankee culture, why did you leave NY? Come to NC for the barbecue, not for our ersatz Yankee "culture".

6 As a not so recent transplant from NYC I have to tell you we don't all have this "mindset" a******. I mean f*** heck man. Just kidding. It is great living down here in NC. Honestly I wish everyone from around had the opportunity to live in NYC for a while. And I wish that those who do have that Yankee attidude, mainly NJ trash, would come down here and live a little. The NC education system however is a wreck. Wake County and Chapel Hill Carrboro, hae some fo the best schools period. However the rest of the state cannot say the same. I truly realized this after visiting www.donorschoose.org, and seeing on all the areas you can help teachers, NYC, LA, SF, Texas etc., NC & SC are on there as well. Says something.

7 You're from Po-town? Proud graduate of Dutchess County Community College (13th grade) here, transplanted from Marlboro, NY (across the Mid-Hudson bridge...the "poor" side of the river!) to lovely Fairfax, Va. Go Patriots!

1 Fellow fishermen and friends, I cannot believe no one has said it! Are we looking past the obvious?? It is not a matter of whether this fish should count because of how it was taken. It is not even convincing evidence that this fish was world record size. No one has ever caught, netted, foul hooked or even shocked up a bass bigger than the world record. Let alone 25 pounds. The circumstances surrounding this catch leads me to believe that this bass was not only shy of 25 pounds, but shy of 221/4 also. Foul hooked or not. Consider this.... In order for a bass to grow to this super size (25 pounds supposedly), it would mean that there were countless bass in this lake that were over 20 pounds. And they keep catching the same one? How magical. Mathimatically, the odds of this are mind-boggling. I can tell you that there is millions of dollars to gain by saying that this fish is bigger then the record. Is it possible that he foul hook claim is just a smokescreen to getting the reward? Think about it, they had to claim a foul hook, to have a reason to let it go. This gives them a shot at the record book. They cannot claim it was the record and caught legitimately, or else they would have had to keep it for certification, and risk serious inspection of the fish, which would reveal the obvious... it was not the world record bass. Not to mention... have you ever foul hooked a fish? I have... and when you do, even small ones feel like giants... In other words, you know if a fish is foul hooked before it gets into the net. Supposedly, they did not. There is no way this would be a "five minute" fight. And it is pretty coincidental to foul hook a 25 pound bass. The foul hook claim is excuse for not having the PROOF. The video of it on the scale is not proof. It is easy to film a fish being weighed with added weight in its belly or mouth. Measuring it on film or in photos would be proof... but I guess that just slipped their minds. Also, If you guys are not familiar with this bass trio... Jed, Mac, and Mike are not amateurs. They fish practically EVERYDAY for the record. If anyone knows what qualifies for it... these guys do. They have all caught and documented huge fish before. They measure, certify, and photograph EVERY big bass. The world record bass is what they LIVE for. Every minute in their lives has been preparing them for the moment they get to see a bass over 22 lb. 4 oz. So, why were they in such a hurry to release it before anyone else could really see it? Don't forget, Jed had his 21 pounder at the docks for HOURS (Scale samples, photos, MEASUREMENTS, certification, etc.) for dozens of people to witness. There is no way that they would catch a bass that eclipsed the world record by almost three pounds and throw it back so fast. Too many people, including themselves would just want to SEE and admire a bass that big, foul hooked or not. Here is a more likely scenario of what happened that morning... One of them catches a bass around 19 or 20 pounds. Weary of years of futile efforts to catch the world record, they come up with a plan to claim this fish as the record. Stuff a weight in him, roll tape for a minute for a little evidence. However... they need an excuse to not have the fish for closer examination for fear of revealing the truth... so they come up with the foul hooked story. The claim of it being foul hooked just gives them reason to release it uncertified, leaving the possibility that it might LOOK like a 25 pounder. Then they can claim they released the world record because they thought it wouldn't count. How convenient. Another world record released again... What a coincidence. They want the glory (and cash) without the proof. This hoax is getting old. Paul Duclos did it in 1997. And Leah Trew did it two years ago. Think about it... these boys fish for the record almost for a living. No doubt, they caught a big bass that morning, but my guess is it wasn't foul hooked and it wasn't the record. If they actually caught a bass THAT big (25 lbs), it would not go back in the water within minutes, uncertified, even if they caught it in a throw net. There is a million dollars to gain from claiming that it was a foul hooked 25 pounder. My guess is it was a legitimately caught 19 or 20. If you know anything about big bass, then you know that every 19 or 20 pounder LOOKS 25 lbs. These boys are just counting on the IGFA to see it that way too. We're looking at another fish story boys. Don't be fooled into biting. Julian Fritz

2 I know these guys, I've seen them fish. They'd never do such a thing. Grow up and stop living your life as a conspiracy theory!

1 get better..we need you

2 I noticed you used the term "mind crushing" as opposed to "brain" crushing. I will take this an admission by omission. I will now submit my story to the AP so that they may flood the airwaves with this shocking revelation.

3 Hope you feel better soon. And happy belated birthday!

4 Hope you feel better. And a belated Happy Birthday! Seems alot of people are not feeling real well around the Triangle. That time of the year for this stuff. My contacts have been going wonkers last couple of days.

5 Woops, that was me above. Still had that silly name for something over at another mu.nu blog.