June 26, 2007
Child Abuse?
Drudge is alarmed over a picture on
Rosie O'Donnell's blog that apparently shows her daughter in some sort of military fatigues, festooned with a a bandoleer of small caliber ammunition.
Presumably, this is some sort of anti-war protest on the part of O'Donnell, but she seems unable to write anything more coherent than the headline, "A picture says a thousands posts."
Considering her storied track record of being unable to write complete sentences or even complete words (the Big Ro seems to think the blogosphere charges by the letter, like some demented form of text messaging), I suppose this could be considered at least a grammatical improvement.
But what, precisely, is the message is she trying to send?
Based upon the reaction of her readers, it seems to be either "I'm willing to pimp my child for a cheap political stunt," or, "I'm so nutty, even my own demented fans are disturbed over how I'd use my child."
Whatever her point, few seem to understand it, and I wonder if that cluelessness extends to O'Donnell herself.
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After reading the comments I came to the conclusion that Ms. O'Donut is the smartest and sanest of the bunch. That is the most pathetic accumulation of defectives I have ever encountered.
Posted by: GeorgeH at June 26, 2007 04:24 PM (Jkcjv)
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We must also decry the ongoing abuse of that
shrieking harpy Pamela Oshry Geller, over at "Atlas Shrugs." She's always using her kids as props in her incoherent hatefests. It disgusts me.
I so hate the way Rosie writes that I start quivering with rage every time I stumble across one of her "poems."
Posted by: Doc Washboard at June 26, 2007 04:27 PM (Rq904)
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I dunno, Doc. Sometimes she can be
pretty amusing. And my brother did that, so don't blame me. ;-)
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at June 26, 2007 04:53 PM (HcgFD)
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"A picture says a thousands posts"
Whats it say, she wants her daughter to be a terrorist? I think Rosie lost her marbles.
Posted by: jbiccum at June 26, 2007 09:40 PM (Rd4s4)
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I say we just ignore the barnyard animal. The less we talk about her, the better life is. That is one woman that even some libs have to admit is crazy.
Kram
www.FuzzySnake.com
Posted by: Kram at June 27, 2007 04:00 AM (i94/j)
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"A picture says a thousand posts."
Which of the double entendre hits you first, Rosie's effort to mock literacy or the bravado of Rosie actually fighting for anything beyond the point she feels you are not her friend anymore?
If there was a fitting picture worth a thousand explanations of maroon, that one comes second after a photo, any photo, of Rosie.
Posted by: Dusty at June 27, 2007 06:51 AM (GJLeQ)
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The child soldier is always a disturbing image, and the fact that people are disturbed is indeed, likely the very point. The message that I take away, at bottom, is that war is destroying our young and, implicitly, our future. You may disagree or think it trite, but that does not make it unclear.
So what's the big deal again? You guys don't get it so she must be nuts, is that what I am reading here?
Posted by: Shochu John at June 27, 2007 08:36 AM (hA1lr)
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Shocku, your moral relativity drivel falls on deaf ears here.
Teaching your children to hack off the heads of those who don't grow their beards long enough is not the same as teaching your children to stay the hand of those who attempt to hack off those heads. Teaching your children to beat on women who don't wear the proper style of clothing is not the same as teaching your children to intervene to stop the beating.
Children being included in efforts to show the moral philosophy of a family or society is not altogether repugnant and neither is a child soldier, even a child fighting, in and of itself. What determines it's repugnance is what the purpose is, what philosophy informs it and how great the need for action is.
In this instance I find it a good teaching moment. What is the purpose of Rosie offering this picture of her daughter, if she, in fact, does mean to offer a point at all? The disgust that many on our side display is threefold, I think. First, it is invested with the disgust for Rosie's own moral relativity, philsophy, and hypocrisy, which leads to the second disgust for Rosie's impersonal use of her daughter to argue points she is incapable of arguing herself.
But, third, last and more important, this disgust is held in the atmosphere of knowing Rosie really has no serious point to offer in her substitute for a thousand posts. She tried to paint with Picasso symbolism but left it absent of symbol like that of hosting a party and adding a note to the invitation, "Bring your own anything." You have brought "destroying our young people" and "destroying our future", both of which are "implicit" for you and which is itself, without much of a point either, not to mention pretty much wrong. The future will exist no matter how many times Rosie's publishes picture of her daughter wearing a bandoleer and I'll go on to say that if children grow up wearing the "metaphorical" bandoleer for the correct reasons, the future will become much brighter, not more dark.
Posted by: Dusty at June 27, 2007 09:40 AM (GJLeQ)
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"Shocku, your moral relativity drivel falls on deaf ears here."
I am not entirely sure at what point I made any moral point whatsoever. Perhaps you could point that out for me.
"She tried to paint with Picasso symbolism but left it absent of symbol like that of hosting a party and adding a note to the invitation, 'Bring your own anything.'"
I would hardly call this a Picasso symbolism. In fact, as far a symbolism goes, it's pretty kindergarten, which is why I am shocked at the confusion here at what she could POSSIBLY be trying to get at.
"not to mention pretty much wrong. The future will exist no matter how many times Rosie's publishes picture of her daughter wearing a bandoleer and I'll go on to say that if children grow up wearing the "metaphorical" bandoleer for the correct reasons, the future will become much brighter, not more dark."
Fine you disagree with the point. Personally, I think the message here is trite and utterly devoid of subtlety. That having been said, I still GET the point. I am astounded not that people here disagree with what she is saying with this picture, but that they don't understand it. It is really not that complicated.
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June 25, 2007
Damn the Reality, Full Meme Ahead!
Undaunted by the facts, Glenn Greenwald attempts to shore up his demonstrably false claim that, "...the enemy is referred to, almost exclusively now, as 'Al Qaeda.'"
with an update to his
already debunked post:
Posts from other bloggers who previously noticed this same trend demonstrate how calculated it is and pinpoint its obvious genesis. At Kos, BarbInMD noted back in May that Bush's rhetoric on Iraq had palpably shifted, as he began declaring that "Al-Qaida is public enemy No. 1 in Iraq." The same day, she noted that Bush "mentioned Al-Qaida no less than 27 times" in his Iraq speech. As always, a theme travels unmolested from Bush's mouth into the unexamined premises of our newspapers' front pages.
Separately, Ghillie notes in comments that the very politically cognizant Gen. Petraeus has been quite noticeably emphasizing "the battle against Al Qaeda" in interviews for months. And yesterday, ProfMarcus analyzed the top Reuters article concerning American action in Iraq -- headline: "Al Qaeda fight to death in Iraq bastion: U.S" -- and noted that "al qaeda is mentioned 13 times in a 614 word story" and that "reading the article, you would think that al qaeda is not only everywhere in iraq but is also behind all the insurgent activity that's going on."
Interestingly, in addition to the one quoted above, there is another long article in the Post today, this one by the reliable Thomas Ricks, which extensively analyzes the objectives and shortcomings in our current military strategy. Ricks himself strategy never once mentions Al Qaeda.
Finally, the lead story of the NYT today -- in its first two paragraphs -- quotes Gen. Odierno as claiming that the 2004 battle of Falluja was aimed at capturing "top Qaeda leaders in the city." But Michael Gordon himself, back in 2004, published a lengthy and detailed article about the Falluja situation and never once mentioned or even alluded to "Al Qaeda," writing only about the Iraqi Sunni insurgents in that city who were hostile to our occupation (h/t John Manning). The propagandistic transformation of "insurgents" into "Al Qaeda," then, applies not only to our current predicament but also to past battles as well, as a tool of rank revisionism (hence, it is now officially "The Glorious 2004 Battle against Al-Qaeda in Falluja").
You'll note that Greenwald's supporting "evidence" for his comes in the form of links to liberal blogs, letters to Salon.com, selected articles from the Washington Post, and the New York Times, and yet, he completely fails to address the fact that Multi-National Corps-Iraq's own press releases debunk his claims on a daily basis.
Sadly, like a dog returning to re-ingest its own vomit, Greenwald cannot get enough of his own rotting bile. Greenwald continues to insist that there is a conspiracy by the government, the world media, and the U.S. military to turn all enemy forces in Iraq into al Qaeda, and stands by his claim that:
...every time one of the top military commanders describes our latest operations or quantifies how many we killed, the enemy is referred to, almost exclusively now, as "Al Qaeda."
Again, this daft claim is hardly supported by the facts, and is easily refuted by the military's own primary means of information dissemination about the War in Iraq, the MNF-I PAO press release system.
Today, Monday, June 25, MNF-I has 13 listed press releases. Of those, one is a duplicate post, while the remaining 12 press releases break down enemy activity in Iraq for the day as follows:
- four releases discussing Sunni insurgent activity;
- one release discussing Shia militia "Secret Cells;"
- four where a specific group enemy group is not named;
- ...and only two where Al Qaeda is mentioned.
Far from making the enemy "almost exclusively" al Qaeda, MNF-I PAO's releases for the day link less than 17% of their stories to al Qaeda activity.
Greenwald ignores the key source that would prove or disprove his "all of our enemy's are being labelled al Qaeda" meme, which are the archives of press releases, of press briefings, Pentagon briefings, daily news, and feature stories from the U.S. military, which make it clear that al Qaeda is not the only extremist group being fought by Coalition and Iraqi forces in Iraq.
Instead, he bumbles forward, doggedly bucking reality, insisting upon some grand conspiracy being orchestrated by the White House, international news services, the American press, and the United States military to repaint all extremist activity in Iraq as being orchestrated by al Qaeda.
As the links above clearly show, Multi-National Corps-Iraq is failing to uphold their end of this alleged conspiracy by consistently citing other extremists groups in their daily press releases and news stories.
Whoever is in charge of this grand conspiracy (perhaps the Freemasons? Maybe the Illuminati? Yale's secretive Skull & Bones Society? Boy Scout Troop 111 in Arlington, Virginia?) should also castigate the media, as they are failing to insist that everything in Iraq is "all al Qaeda, all the time," including this story in the Boston Globe where a suicide bomber targeting Sunni tribal sheiks aligned against al Qaeda was the perfect opportunity to flog this claim, if such a conspiracy was indeed "on." Sadly, the media is failing to uphold their end of the bargain.
Glenn Greenwald seems doggedly intent on descending into his own brand of "trutherism" regarding a grand government, media and military conspiracy to re-brand the Iraq War.
In doing so, he may finally get the notoriety he so desperately craves, if not for the reasons he'd hoped.
Update: I hardly find it surprising that the empty heads at Editor & Publisher lap up Greenwald's bile, with nary a thought to whether or not it's true.
Considering that E&P editor Greg Mitchell has his own track record of manufacturing news and indeed, wrote a post advocating that the media should attempt to undermine the Presidency, I'm not exactly shocked they'd grasp at any straw they could to support their nakedly partisan political objectives.
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Wait a minute. I thought Greenwald said establishment media types are acting as stenographers, repeating the propaganda about the unitary enenmy Bush has dictated our military use. Obviously there has been a breakdown in communication somewhere along the way. Where could it be?
My vote based on past experience is on Glenn's side, because the meme is a fabricated device to cast doubt once again on the honesty of the administration and our activities in Iraq. That is one meme on which Glenn has been 100% consistent, truth be damned.
Posted by: daleyrocks at June 25, 2007 11:03 AM (0pZel)
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How exactly are you refuting what Greenwald says?
Both you and Greenwald are saying the same thing: that much of the MSM reporting about the presence of al Qaeda is contrary to fact.
P.S. Hate to state the obvious, but most people don't get their information from MNF press releases; they get it from the mainstream media. And that should concern your readers.
Posted by: K Ashford at June 25, 2007 01:06 PM (mO+Pe)
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Clearly the toughest insurgency to defeat is the deaf, dumb, and blind, liberal media. If anyone can crack them (besides Chuck Norris), Gen. Petraeus can, while they're kicking and screaming like babies if he has to.
Posted by: Bacchus at June 25, 2007 01:16 PM (HUWtL)
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K Ashford: They are most certainly not saying the same thing. Glenn Grenwald claims that the enemy in Iraq is almost exclusively referred to as Al Queda. Confederate Yankee notes first that Al Queda is indeed in Iraq and is subject to understandable special interest when planning and conducting military operations, and secondly the the claim by Glenn Grenwald does not reflect the reality in the reporting from either the military or the press agencies when you actually examine the data. In fact, Al Queda is explicitly referenced not exclusively, but only a fraction of the time. What fraction of the time Greenwald has not attempted to quantify, but Confederate Yankee has.
In fact, Glenn Grenwald's claim contridicts itself when he references the many press reports which do not even mention Al Queda. In doing so and by claiming that those that don't mention Al Queda are reliable but those that do are not, Grenwald reveals his real agenda which is that he does not believe Al Queda should be mentioned at all. In other words, even though anti-Al Queda operations are underway, and even though these operations consitute only a fraction of the reporting, he believes that any such reporting (even just 17%) is too much because such reporting, although factual, reveals too much that is contrary to Mr. Grenwald's agend.
And further, it's ridiculous to claim that Reuters or the AP is somehow pro-Bush and is going along with some conspiracy to misname Iraqi insurgent groups Al Queda. The truth is simple. Al Queda is in Iraq. They are a target of special interest, and they are behind much of the most spectacular multi-casualty attacks on Iraqi civilians that do make the headlines (and are intended to do so). Thus, at least some of the time, a press release or news report will mention Al Queda in conjunction with these attacks or in conjunction with operations against them. That there are other insurgent groups that are not Al Queda is a fact which demonstratably remains both in the militaries press releases and in the popular press.
Posted by: celebrim at June 25, 2007 01:26 PM (Qnlt+)
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I thought it might be good to remind people again of Joshua Micah Marshall's flack work on behalf of Ken Pollack back in 2002, *before* 1) Marshall had been advised that Clinton's Iraq policy was correct if handled by Gore, evil if executed by Bush, and, 2) Pollack got so scared that he wouldn't be able to get a job in the Kerry administration that he started trying to pretend he had *not* written "The Gathering Storm". His book on why it was necessary to invade Iraq and overthrow Saddam was reviewed by Marshall for Washington Monthly. The laudatory review is here: http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2001/0211.marshall.html
This is actually one of the better flip-flops I have seen. Imagine having a principled stalwart like Pollack (his Iraq convictions lasted for about a year after his book) running US foreign policy.
Of course, both men were right back then. But that was before the puppetmasters had inflicted them with amnesia.
Posted by: Kurmudge at June 25, 2007 01:29 PM (lDbgI)
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CY,
This one of the sorriest post I've seen on this blog to date. Greenwald is simply pointing out the obvious to anyone that's been paying attention to the news lately, there has been a perceptible shift in attribution to al Queda. You want me to source that? Turn on your TeeVee for a half an hour. At any rate, K Ashfords right.
...and I wouldn't be bagging on Greg Mitchell with a
track record of your own that far exceeds his supposed transgressions.
Posted by: Frederick at June 25, 2007 01:38 PM (TcNVg)
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K Ashford said: "Both you and Greenwald are saying the same thing..."
Greenwald is clearly trying to place the misnomers at the feet of the US Military Command (see previous Confederate Yankee post http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/231205.php) and the Bush Administration, while Confederate Yankee is placing it at the feet of the largely misinformed and unreading public, the MSM, and GREENWALD himself.
If Greenwald is going to blame the US Command, he needs to CITE THE US COMMAND, which is exactly what Yankee is doing here. Sorry K, but you missed your mark and missed it big.
Posted by: REN at June 25, 2007 01:39 PM (dzI/I)
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More entertainingly, our favorite piece of talking footwear has chosen a rather poor example to defend his claim by mentioning Fallujah, a place that actually was crawling with Al-Qaeda and Al-Qaeda linked fighters. All the forces there were not members, but almost all were allied with and dominated by Al Qaeda at the time.
Perversely, the disconnect between the various Sunni groups and Al Qaeda should be looked on as a favorable sign by the Sock Puppet, since the widening split that has developed has been an important goal, and a key behind the turnaround in Anbar (where Fallujah lies.) If Al Qaeda is not such a large problem, one might ask oneself why when the local Sheiks turned against them the province showed such dramatic progress? All of which Mr. Greenwald cannot get himself to admit, because the mess that Iraq is does not suffice for his purposes, there can be no positives, nothing but unrelieved gloom and evil conspiracies.
Posted by: Lance at June 25, 2007 01:48 PM (9fQ4G)
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I see Gleen the All-Knowing Sock-Puppeteer is embarassing himself again.
How would a patriot support the troops in time of war? By calling them lying shills for the administration in total contradiction of the facts, apparently. Hey, anything to advance the partisan cause! In the mind of Greenwald and his fans (real and imaginary), the only real war is the one against Bush.
What a traitorous, moronic douchebag of a hack. There's a special circle of Hell awaiting this guy.
Posted by: TallDave at June 25, 2007 01:59 PM (oyQH2)
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I see Gleen the All-Knowing Sock-Puppeteer is embarassing himself again.
How would a patriot support the troops in time of war? By calling them lying shills for the administration in total contradiction of the facts, apparently. Hey, anything to advance the partisan cause! In the mind of Greenwald and his fans (real and imaginary), the only real war is the one against Bush.
What a traitorous, moronic douchebag of a hack. There's a special circle of Hell awaiting this guy.
Posted by: TallDave at June 25, 2007 02:01 PM (oyQH2)
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Freemasons? S & B? No, CY, it's clear that the liars of the Left are trying to immanentize the aeschaton.
Posted by: Mike at June 25, 2007 06:18 PM (h346G)
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sorry, but you have your facts wrong.
among 21 press releases on the 25th, there are
al-qaeda........ 7
terrorists...... 5
IED cell........ 2
insurgents...... 5
(nothing)....... 2
http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=category§ionid=1&id=4&Itemid=21
Posted by: sod at June 26, 2007 08:24 AM (e1Cg2)
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sod, at the time I posted, those numbers were 100% accurate. That does not mean I was wrong, that means they added nine more releases after I posted.
Still, for giggles, let's use your numbers (which I can't verify right now; their site is screwy at the moment).
If MNF-I did mention seven contacts with al Qaeda out of 21 stories, that means that on this particular day, then they said that a whopping
third of enemy actions where attributed to al Qaeda, and this during a series of operations
targetting al Qaeda.
Glenn Ryan Wilson Thomas Ellers Rick Ellensburg Greenwald's claim that the military is referring to all attacks in Iraq as "almost exclusively now" coming from al Qaeda is still handily debunked, no matter how you slice it.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at June 26, 2007 08:47 AM (9y6qg)
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our numbers don t add up. you had 12, i had 21. the difference is only 9, but i added 5 al-qaeda and 5 EXTRA "terrorist" reports.
a few of the reports simply mention events, that can t be blamed on al-qaeda, so they aren t. you d need to disregard those from the total number.
and this during a series of operations targetting al Qaeda.
and this is the real problem. why do you think this operation is targeting al-qaeda alone? no baathists? no angry sunnis? no shii death sqaud in that region?
you re making exactly that wrong claim, the "left " are talking about!
my feeling is, that these press reports are more acurate than talking points of politicians and commanders.
but even they call it al-qaeda, if a neighbor said it was al-qaeda. and terrorists, if a civilian got hurt.
that leaves a stray shot in sunni/shiite heartland for "insurgent activity".
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June 23, 2007
SockPuppet Strikes Out Again
Glenn Wilson McEllensburg has suddenly become a terrorism expert, and can't wait to get a
conspiracy off his chest:
Josh Marshall publishes an e-mail from a reader who identifies what is one of the most astonishing instances of mindless, pro-government "reporting" yet:
It's a curious thing that, over the past 10 - 12 days, the news from Iraq refers to the combatants there as "al-Qaida" fighters. When did that happen?
Until a few days ago, the combatants in Iraq were "insurgents" or they were referred to as "Sunni" or "Shia'a" fighters in the Iraq Civil War. Suddenly, without evidence, without proof, without any semblance of fact, the US military command is referring to these combatants as "al-Qaida".
Welcome to the latest in Iraq propaganda.
That the Bush administration, and specifically its military commanders, decided to begin using the term "Al Qaeda" to designate "anyone and everyeone we fight against or kill in Iraq" is obvious. All of a sudden, every time one of the top military commanders describes our latest operations or quantifies how many we killed, the enemy is referred to, almost exclusively now, as "Al Qaeda."
Actually, that isn't obvious, Glenn. What is obvious is your own industrial-strength ignorance, which apparently seems to be quite contagious among the more irrational actors of the far left.
The reason that we've been reading more over the past few days about attacks directed against al Qaeda—more than Sunni insurgents, more than Shia militiamen—is that elements of al Qaeda have been specifically targeted by U.S. and Iraqi forces in Operation Arrowhead Ripper in Diyala Province, in Operation Commando Eagle southwest of Baghdad, Operation Marne Torch southeast of Baghdad, and in other operations throughout the country.
If Glen Greenwald or Josh Marshall weren't above a Sullivaneque "floating of a theory" by a conspiracy-minded reader (to excuse their own inherent distrust of our military, of course), they might have bothered to recognize, or God forbid, research a few key facts.
The first of those facts is that we are in offensive operations surrounding and targeting al Qaeda cells specifically, often with information provided by their former allies in the Sunni insurgency.
Second, the military is consistently releasing stories about contacts with both Sunni insurgents and Shia militiamen, and our military is calling them such as they contact them.
Let's got back "10-12 days" and see what Multi-National Force-Iraq has been saying in their press releases. According to Greenwald, the enemy the military talks about is "almost exclusively now" al Qaeda.
And yet, when we go back 12 days to Monday, June 11, we find that in MNF-I's three combat-related press releases, only one addresses al Qaeda. The following day, U.S. forces raided an insurgent weapons cache, came under attack from an insurgent VBIED, and engaged "enemy fire" coming from a mosque, without ever specifying who that was.
On Wednesday, June 13, MNF-I published 17 press releases. Of those a Grand total of four mentioned al Qaeda. Five others mentioned Sunni insurgents, five more couldn't specify the attacker, and one wrote about Iranian-affiliated Shia militias.
I invite Greenwald, Marshall, and others who seem to like this meme to do their own digging through MNF-I's archive of press releases, where they'll find more days very similar to this.
As the offensive operations cited above--part of an overall operation called Phantom Thunder--are specifically targeting al Qaeda cells, we will be reading about those terrorists that our soldiers are directly targeting. But as accounts from Saturday show that we are still encountering Shia militias and Sunni insurgents even today, the theory being aired by Greenwald and his conspiracy-minded followers is shown—with only passing research—to be complete and utter bunk.
Update: Undaunted by the facts, Greenwald attempts to shore up his flimsy argument by citing other liberal conspiracy theorists and letters to Salon.com, forcing yet another debunking of his claims.
Reality. He should check into it sometime.
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Their neatly crafted fantasy is crashing on the hard rocks of reality.
When the 1920's are working with us now to zap'em, its pretty clear that there IS indeed a distinct AQ presence...much to the despair of the leftists.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at June 23, 2007 03:21 PM (9yWTK)
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What's so funny is that the *news* this "reader" gets, especially the *news* from Iraq, is from the *News Media*, and when these organizations report who we're fighting against they often substitute their personally preferred terms over whatever the Government might use, unless it is a quote. such as UPI's "guerillas".
You're right on target with your capsuling of MNF press releases, CY, though I don't think you emphasize enough the fact that in the southern belts and in many of the Baghdad district, the MNF identifies Madhi not Al Qaeda.
Don't bother scanning the actual *news* that "reader" or his meme trumpeters get, let them do it if they really think they can support their drivel. They can't. A flip to using Al Qaeda hasn't happened. Just look at typical *news* weasel Richard Oppel's brief story in his own words in the NYT today. Not a mention of Al Qaeda.
The left has no grasp on reality.
Posted by: Dusty at June 23, 2007 05:30 PM (GJLeQ)
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Greenwald has become increasingly desperate of late trying to turn light into gloom with respect to Iraq. It's clear that he either doesn't read much on the subject or wilfully ignores material which is out there relating to our operations against Mookie's Militias and the Sunnis. He's turned into a stenographer for Tehran with respect to Iran's involvement in Iraq. He views anything said by anyone from Iran as fact, while anything said from the U.S. as unconfirmed, third-hand supposition.
He can't write anything these days without beclowing himself. What would a patriot do? If Glenn Greenwald still considers himself a patriot he should recognize that he's gone over the edge and hang it up for a while.
Posted by: daleyrocks at June 23, 2007 07:25 PM (0pZel)
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Greenwald and his ilk have basically become modern day Lord Haw Haw's pimping for the enemy.
Not only gone over the edge, but gone over to the other side. This is basically "terminal stage" BDS.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at June 23, 2007 08:55 PM (9yWTK)
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GG should avoid cameras for a few days, or at least until the imprint of your keyboard on his face fades away.
Posted by: ErkW at June 24, 2007 01:52 AM (BMyIZ)
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Gotta admire a thorough debunking! Fortunately, on a day to day basis, all it usually takes is actually following Greenwald's own links.
Posted by: JM Hanes at June 24, 2007 03:48 AM (bKtAF)
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CY - a good example of why systematic observation is better than casually noticing something unusual and building a theory around it.
The example could be translated into terms the lefties might understand: you are walking down the street. 19 ethnic minority people pass you by peacefully so you don't really notice them. The 20th mugs you. You notice him. You draw the conclusion that ethnic minorities are "almost exclusively" violent criminals. That's Greenwald's logic here.
Posted by: PB at June 24, 2007 07:44 AM (7FGDT)
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Speaking of Josh Marshall, he ran a contest a while back looking for examples where the administration actually called into question their opponents patriotism.
I never did see a follow up. Probably because being accused of questioning somebody's patriotism by one side in the debate is not the same thing as actually doing it.
Posted by: moptop at June 24, 2007 07:48 AM (AbzfF)
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I agree with whatever Glenn Greenwald says.
Posted by: Ima Pseudonym at June 24, 2007 08:58 AM (neoiq)
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Greenwald and his ilk have now gone from denying ANY kind of connection between Al Qaeda and other Islamists, to denying any connection between Al Qaeda and itself.
Posted by: CK MacLeod at June 24, 2007 09:46 AM (dvksz)
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The conspiracy line of thought only works if you first believe Al Queda to be a creation of the Bush Administration to focus the country's ire upon post-911 (to justify occupying Iraq for its oil, instead of occupying ANWR for its oil I guess).
Posted by: Neo at June 24, 2007 10:28 AM (HsB92)
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Neo: Everyone knows Rove masterminded 911 to perk up moronic Bush's tanking poll numbers, Bush lied us into war to clinch his 2004 re-election.
Posted by: ic at June 24, 2007 11:16 AM (NM7Uv)
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LOTS of truth here the comments are better than the post
The left has no grasp on reality.
yes
He views anything said by anyone from Iran as fact, while anything said from the U.S. as unconfirmed, third-hand supposition.
YES
Not only gone over the edge, but gone over to the other side. This is basically "terminal stage" BDS.
YES!!! he hates W so much hes pulling for the ENEMY
dont know for sure but rumor is that he lives in brazil with an arab BOYFRIEND
AMERICAN??? maybe NOT
Posted by: Karl at June 24, 2007 11:42 AM (5zEhw)
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ItÂ’s relatively straight forward, when the Iraqi insurgents were fighting alongside Al Qaeda they werenÂ’t sharing information about the nature of the insurgency with the newspapers. The media outlets had two sources for their information, military sources and Iraqi news stringers. After the WMD flap the media thought it could disregard military sources as biased and unreliable. The Iraqi news stringers were almost always Sunni and often had ties to SaddamÂ’s old information ministry. The role of Al Qaeda was downplayed as minor foreign segment of the insurgency that didnÂ’t have a leadership role and didnÂ’t have real ties to the real Al Qaeda anyway.
A lot of the local insurgents have flipped sides or are now in Jordan waiting it out. They are now available to the press and they are talking. The accounts that they are telling are consistent with each other and with what military intelligence sources have been saying all along. The talking heads and institutional sources back in the US can say what they want, but they are uniformly contradicted by local Iraqis on the ground. The Reporters on the ground for the major newspapers are now calling them Al Qaeda.
Al Qaeda always had a central role in the insurgency ever since Fallujah in 2004. When Fallujah flared the Sunni tribes of Anbar joined up in a loose coalition under the Al Qaeda banner. There has been a progression over the last years of how Al Qaeda has largely taken over much of the insurgency. If you want to know what Al Qaeda has been doing in Anbar province go ask people in Anbar. Likewise, we will get to hear all about whatÂ’s been going down in Diyala province once reporters can interview the people there.
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Come on!
If we just give them Czechoslavkia, they'll be satisfied! We can achieve peace in our time, we just have to be flexible.
Posted by: Dirk DIggler at June 24, 2007 04:03 PM (iFo3G)
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I note he's posted some updates in obvious defense of his thesis. And yet these are some darned shallow defenses. The hazard of such a tack is that one gains a reputation for freighting gossamer implications with the weight of full-blown alarums. It's just ridiculous.
Posted by: rasqual at June 24, 2007 10:16 PM (fwvXX)
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Wait a sec. Who's Glenn Greenwald again? Some sort of self-stroking sock puppet?!?!!? And we depend on him, why?
Oh yeah, that self-referential partner, or whatever. Oh, Glenn Greenwald, he's a *wealth* of *hot* *spurting* *liquid* knowledge about Iraq. Ummm, good.
Cough. A-hem.
Posted by: Patrick Carroll at June 24, 2007 11:38 PM (Ejb+P)
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It was easier to get Iraqi insurgents to join in the fight against al-Qaeda than democrats.
Posted by: Bacchus at June 25, 2007 10:34 AM (HUWtL)
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GG writes smart stuff, you are a moron. This is strongly supported by your random spittle specked flailings and the weirdo writing of inadvertantly self-disclosing me-tooer freaks like Patrick Carroll. Seriously Patty wtf is up with that post, it's more content free than this one. Just had to release some hot sticky tension. If GG wasn't gay and hadn't made that one slip wtf would you have to say about him? Hard to see the merits of your arguments sunk so deep in to the morass of your hate.
Keep it up though your support and the support of your shut-in readers has done wonders for the GOP and the fictional GWOT.
Shaboodi Shaboodi
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June 20, 2007
Anybody Hiring?
The six-month contract I was hired into in 2005 is finally closing at the end of this month after three extensions, and a few folks have suggested that I should investigate attempting to find a new media journalism gig, either here in the Raleigh area, or one from which I could telecommute.
I know via Sitemeter that a few media outfits check in on this site on occasion, so I'm wondering...
Any takers?
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I know you looked at the comment number and hoped I had news of a job, but I just wanted to wish you the best of luck, Bob.
Posted by: Granddaddy Lonhg Legs at June 20, 2007 03:38 PM (klw4o)
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Didn't Ian Schwartz just leave Hot Air recently? Don't know if they're looking for a replacement or not but it looks like a fit to me.
Posted by: Bill Faith at June 21, 2007 04:46 PM (n7SaI)
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Uh, speaking as a professional (yes, MSM1 the horror .. the horror) journalist, I'd suggest you consider a new career.
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June 14, 2007
Reid Betrays the Selective Memory-Based Community
At Daily Kos, "BarbinMD" went to bat this afternoon for an embattled
Harry Reid:
Since its inception a few short months ago, Politico, the online soul-mate to the Drudge Report, has gotten into the habit of creating news stories through innuendo, omission, outright error, and now today, out of thin air.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid called Marine Gen. Peter Pace, the outgoing chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, "incompetent" during an interview Tuesday with a group of liberal bloggers, a comment that was never reported.
Reid made similar disparaging remarks about Army Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, said several sources familiar with the interview.
Of course the reason this comment was never reported is quite simple: the bloggers on the call don't remember this quote. I, along with mcjoan and Kagro X, participated in that conference call and none of us heard Reid say it. And of the four other bloggers who were there, Joe and John from AMERICAblog and Jonathon Singer, have no recollection of it.
Please make note: according to this Kos frontpager, she and two other prominent Daily Kos bloggers never heard Harry Reid call General Pace "incompetent," and of the other four bloggers on the call, the two representing Americablog, and one from MyDD, didn't recall anything, either. "Ain't nobody heard nothin,'" as it were, from six of the seven highly respected liberal bloggers on the conference call with the Democrat Senate Majority Leader. But don't question their integrity.
The last man standing, Bob Geiger, recalled things a bit differently, but still attempted a fanboy's "I don't think that word means what you think it means" defense of Reid:
Here's exactly what Reid said:
"I guess the president, uh, he's gotten rid of Pace because he could not get him confirmed here in the SenateÂ… Pace is also a yes-man for the president and I told him to his face, I laid it out to him last time he came to see me, I told him what an incompetent man I thought he was."
So, did Reid utter the word "incompetent" in the same sentence with General Pace's name on the conference call? Yes, he did.
Geiger then went on to make a pathetic attempt to wrangle Reid's mangled syntax into an attack on President Bush instead of Pace.
The seven liberal bloggers on the conference call with Harry Reid either suffered from a convenient form of group amnesia, or from the inability to honestly parse the English language, but perhaps what was important from their perspective is that they rallied together for Harry with strongly-worded claims of "I can't recall," and "I don't remember," and "It depends on what the definition of the word 'is,' is."
But sometimes irony and justice come hand in hand, and Harry Reid soon did to these radical anti-war bloggers what they are collectively trying to do to the American military and the Iraqi people: he cut and ran:
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid confirmed Thursday that he told liberal bloggers last week that he thinks outgoing Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Peter Pace is "incompetent."
Reid also disparaged Army Gen. David Petraeus, head of Multinational Forces in Iraq.
But Reid, whose comments to bloggers first appeared in The Politico, also told reporters: "I think we should just drop it."
For the Selective Memory-Based Community, Reid's betrayal must have been awful.
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Let's remember Gates fired Pace, not Reid. We now have a War Czar, SecDef and an incoming Chair of the Joint Chiefs who are all skeptical of the surge.
What does that tell ya?
Posted by: markg8 at June 14, 2007 11:12 PM (7xxF4)
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That's silly--it's not as if Gates could fire Reid even if he wanted to. The surge itself is still being executed, as the full number of combat troops are still being added into the mix. What it does tell me is that there is no silver bullet for Iraq--if the surge is successful, there will still be a measure of internal chaos to deal with, as well as external agents (like Iran) that are helping to foment said chaos.
Posted by: Nathan Tabor at June 15, 2007 12:43 AM (HQYcw)
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As Gen. Petraeus has said before - The Surge™ - in an of itself, will not fix the problems of Iraq. Will it enable central Iraq to be a bit more stable? Yes. Will it enable former insurgent groups to fall in line (ala 'Sunni Awakening' councils)? Yes. Is it allowing those Iraqi who want peace and stability a better chance at 'standing up'? Yes.
There is still a long way to go. Tribal and social customs prevent an immediate turnaround. It took Germany, Japan and S. Korea 40 years to develop into thriving democratic societies where freedom and equality under Rule of Law hold sway. In addition there are many powers in the area that want Iraq to fail. It's in Saudi Arabia and Iran's best interest since thriving democracies tend to make despotic regimes look bad.
Posted by: Dan Irving at June 15, 2007 09:39 AM (zw8QA)
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So the Kos Kidz accuse the Politico of lying. They claim that they, not one of them, heard the quote and when it turns out that the Politico's story was accurate and BarbinMD flatly denied it: grudging update with caveats. No apology, even in the comments. No indication of contrition for a rush and a mistaken statement.
Which website is staffed with liars? Who is incompetent, if not one of
three separate hand-picked citizen journalists even registered the words that would assuredly be red meat to their base? Why should anyone believe them, if they didn't have their hearing-aids plugged in?
1st deaf blogger: happenstance.
2nd deaf blogger: coincedence.
3rd deaf blogger: concerted lies from an agency organized against reporting or even acknowledging the truth.
Posted by: Uncle Pinky at June 15, 2007 08:03 PM (2eQlr)
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"For the Selective Memory-Based Community, Reid's betrayal must have been awful."
Well, maybe, but they won't remember it for long.
Posted by: George Bruce at June 20, 2007 01:33 PM (tj2NC)
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"The Army strives for a "rule of threes": for every combat unit on a mission, a second is recovering and a third is preparing. But today, more than half the Army's fighting units are deployed abroadÂ…
Â…Deep inside the Pentagon...a nightmare scenario hangs in the air, unmentioned but unmistakable. With 140,000 U.S. troops tied down stabilizing Iraq, 34,000 in Kuwait, 10,000 in Afghanistan and 5,000 in the Balkans, what good options would George W. Bush have if, say sometime next spring, North KoreaÂ’s Kim Jong Il decided to test the resilience of the relatively small "trip-wire" force of 37,000 American troops in South KoreaÂ…
…America’s military has been shrinking for the past 35 years...All four services have been cut in strength, and leaders of both parties have overseen this decline. President Bush's father reduced the number of Army divisions from 18 to 14; Bill Clinton cut it further, to 10...The Bush team's vision for the U.S. Army involved making it learner, faster, more efficient and more open to change…" – TIME ‘03.
The impression I had was that the surge amounted to 30,000 more troops. However, I think that means all troops and not just "combat” troops. I have heard before that if the military has around 1,000,000 people, somewhere around 1/2 are support personnel. So, if there are only 500,000 "combat" troops and they are supposed to have an equal amount at home to rest and recuperate as they do at war, plus taking into consideration the other commitments such as Korea and Japan, etc., you have a better idea of what is really being asked of the troops:
"Inside a fortified conference room, through the prism of U.S. and Iraqi
military officials, a security plan to pacify the country was working on
WednesdayÂ…Outside, extremists blew up mosques, lobbed mortars into Baghdad's heavily protected Green Zone, and generated a steady drumbeat of violence." The Kansas City Star - 6-21-07.
Conditions in Iraq will not improve sufficiently by September to justify a
drawdown of U.S. military forces, the top U.S. commander in Iraq said Sunday. Asked whether he thought the job assigned to an additional 30,000 troops deployed as the centerpiece of President Bush's new war strategy would be completed by then, Gen. David Petraeus replied, "I do not, no. I think that we have a lot of heavy lifting to do." The Kansas City Star - 6-18-07.
"In Washington, Pentagon officials urged patience...But Pentagon planners
privately expressed concern. 'We don't have enough troops,' one said. 'It would take another 100,000' to properly protect Baghdad."
(That day there was an inset saying the troops would get extra days off in lieu of extra pay for the extra deployments. I guess times are tough all over.) The Kansas City Star - 4-19-07.
"Last summer the U.S. military in Iraq, led by Gen. George Casey...increased the U.S. forces patrolling Baghdad's neighborhoods by 3,700, to a total of more than 15,000...The current surge was to be different. U.S. forces in Baghdad were to increase by at least 17,000, bringing the total U.S. force in Baghdad to more than 30,000. The troops were to work alongside 30,000 Iraqi army and national police forces and 21,000 policemen...That hasn't happened as rapidly as U.S. commanders had hoped..." The Kansas City Star – 6-09-07.
"Most Iraqi military units arriving in Baghdad...have only 75% of their assigned soldiers...About one in six Iraqi policemen trained by U.S. forces has been killed or wounded, has deserted or has just disappeared..."
The Kansas City Star – 6-14-07.
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June 04, 2007
It's a Slow News Day, so Why Not A Little Indignant Stupidity?
Many of us have heard the term "spearchucker" used as a racial slur against African-Americans, so when I saw via
Memeorandum that Fox News anchor Brit Hume used the term, my immediate reaction was to cringe.
The context:
Hume: …he had a mixed record in the Senate and he's a man who always seems somewhat frustrated and bored by the Senate...I particularly remember an investigation that occurred after the Clinton/Dole campaign. We were new here at FOX news and we carried a lot of the hearings live. It was in the campaign finance alleged irregularities with monies supposedly seeping into the American political campaign of Bill Clinton from Chinese sources and so on—it was pretty juicy stuff it looked like a very big deal.
Fred Thompson was the chairman of the Investigating committee and it went absolutely nowhere. he was effectively buffaloed in that investigation by none other than John Glenn—who was a wonderful man, but not somebody normally you would think capable of being a real partisan..ahh…ahh.. spearchucker, who could, who could undo an investigation. So it didn't go very well and I think Fred Thompson has acknowledged since then that it wasn't his finest hour...
But how could Crooks and Liars get all indignant considering the comment was directed at this guy?
To put it mildly, it seems a stretch, but any chance to slur a conservative--especially one on the hated "Faux News" network--on even the flimsiest of grounds is a good one, isn't it?
John Amato, after making the weak case that Hume (an older white guy) was being a racist for calling Glenn (an even older white guy) a spearchucker, then goes on to provide the word Hume was must likely looking for all along, a spear-carrier. That Hume was fumbling for the right term was obvious in the transcript that Amato provided (my bold this time):
...he was effectively buffaloed in that investigation by none other than John Glenn—who was a wonderful man, but not somebody normally you would think capable of being a real partisan ..ahh..ahh.. spearchucker, who could, who could undo an investigation.
Hume fumbled, and produced an embaressing slip, but a purposeful slur? I don't think so.
What should be embarassing...but obviously won't be... is Amato's probable little "white lie" about why he wrote this entry to begin with.
I had to watch it a few times for it to sink in. I looked up "spearchucker," on Dictionary.com, but they didn't recognize it so I wonder how he will explain this one away?
Really, John? You had to look up the term to know it was offensive?
If you didn't know it was offensive, then why did you key in on it in the first place, instead of letting it waft by as the one of the dozens of idiomatic expressions one hears in an average week that most normal people never bother to look up?
No, I suspect that Mr. Amato was well aware of what that slur meant all along, and that he was well aware of what it meant long before Brit Hume spoke it on Fox News.
What is far more likely is that Mr. Amato, as a representative of the politically correct progressive blogosphere, instead decided to play dumb and act as if he had to look it up. Why?
Hume made a mistake, and grabbed the wrong term.
John Amato, on the other hand, acted as if he didn't know what "spearchucker" meant, when clearly he knew it was a slur all along, or he wouldn't have keyed in on it.
Here's another word for John Amato to look up: "honest."
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Really nice post, CY. But why did you expect better from Crooks and Liars?
Posted by: Dusty at June 04, 2007 06:36 PM (1Lzs1)
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I think he meant bomb-thrower. Jeez, can we get back to the important stuff, like the cost of John Edwards' haircut?
Honest to God, if this is the way the campaign season is going to be, somebody should just shoot me now.
Posted by: David Terrenoire at June 04, 2007 07:15 PM (tk0b2)
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Or maybe "water-carrier"?
Posted by: Jim Treacher at June 04, 2007 07:44 PM (0jtcT)
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No biggie. It's like "macaca." He just invented it on the spot, and it just
happens to be a racial slur. Honestly, these LIEberals are acting like a bunch of.....junglebunnies. Another invented word.
Posted by: jpe at June 04, 2007 08:38 PM (p/TE5)
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David, as the compassionate conservative that I am, all I can say is "Stand up so I can take a better shot."
Posted by: Dusty at June 04, 2007 11:23 PM (GJLeQ)
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I wonder if Brit Hume ever read the novel M*A*S*H:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spearchucker_Jones
Posted by: CKMacLeod at June 04, 2007 11:29 PM (dvksz)
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LIEberals like john amato talk a good game but how many colored do you see sipping wine at the bistro the LIEberals are HIPPOCRITS
LIEberals like immigration cause it don't AFFECT THEM ANYWAY and keeps wages and thus prices cheap
do you read SHAKESPEARE while your sipping that fine wine Lefty????
Posted by: Karl at June 04, 2007 11:50 PM (+Z9xC)
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Dusty,
All I ask is that you move in close and make it clean. With my luck you'd just put me in a hospital room with the TV permanently stuck on Fox News.
I don't think I could take another Bill Frist Video Diagnosis.
Posted by: David Terrenoire at June 05, 2007 07:33 AM (kxecL)
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Bashing C&L must be fun for you guys, but Mr Amato doesn't seem so indignant to me. He is simply pointing out the gaffe--even making clear in the headline that it was aimed at John Glenn--and using it as a way to bring up past transgressions.
This is way short of the high dudgeon you guys get into over misidentified troops and other MSM malapropisms.
It does not, however, address Amato's real implication--scarcely driven home--that in slipping up Hume reverted to a very loaded characterization that may reflect his real attitudes. Freudian slip, anyone?
It might have been interesting to read a discussion among conservatives about whether people reveal supressed attitudes in this way, and if so whether it is important politically. Any of us is likely to spit out an insulting word or phrase in the heat of discussion (Blank you, Sen. Leahy!)--so why get all backed up about it, on either side?
Instead, commenters here sieze an opportunity to once again start in on the name-calling and accusations ("LIEberals," "HIPPOCRITS"). And in such a civil venue!
A bit of self-reflection might be in order here. You think attacking the MSM for silly slipups and editorial mistakes is fair game, but criticizing conservative mouthpieces for chewing on their size tens is out of bounds. Liberals here are accused of incivility for the slightest transgression, but ad hominen attacks on liberals seems a staple of the site.
You can dish it out, but you can't take it.
Posted by: R. Stanton Scott at June 05, 2007 08:10 AM (mItUg)
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Mr. Scott,
You have to learn to ignore the semi-literate rants.
The guy's either suffered a head wound, is developmentally disabled, or is an ESL student. Either way, it's best not to notice when he spews.
It's like pointing out when grandpa is incontinent. It's just not polite.
Posted by: David Terrenoire at June 05, 2007 09:28 AM (kxecL)
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Wit well done. Kudos, David.
Posted by: Dusty at June 05, 2007 09:48 AM (GJLeQ)
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I must live in the wrong part of the country, because I've never heard it used to describe anyone racially. I have heard it used in the "bomb-thrower" context, which seems to cover Sen. Glenn appropriately.
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Mr. Terrenoire,
Yeah, yeah, I know. What happens on the short bus should perhaps stay on the short bus.
But if we let Grandpa take his incontinence public, it embarrasses the family and makes a mess that someone has to clean up.
There comes a time to tell the nurse that people notice the stench.
Posted by: R. Stanton Scott at June 05, 2007 01:04 PM (fnBVi)
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I'm Back
My wife and daughter and I begrudgingly left Orlando yesterday morning and rolled back into North Carolina late yesterday afternoon. It was fun to visit with my sister-in-law's family in West Palm Beach for a couple of days before introducing my wife and seven-year-old daughter to Uncle Walt's dream. My only regret that we couldn't stay longer. Things have changed a lot in the 24 years since I last visited ORlando, but the experience of this past week is one I'll treasure for years to come.
Here's a picture we snapped of ourselves in Epcot at the Kodak Incredible Picture Lab in Epcot.
I'm just as ugly as ever, but the wife and kid sure are cute.
I'll be back online and back up to my normal posting frequency within the next 48 hours or so, and will try to get something out later this afternoon.
I want to thank my brother and blog designer extraordinare "phin" for keeping you all entertained with his guest-blogging. Should you ever want a web or blog design or your own, consider contacting him and his partners in crime at Apothegm Designs.
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