June 04, 2007
I'm Back
My wife and daughter and I begrudgingly left Orlando yesterday morning and rolled back into North Carolina late yesterday afternoon. It was fun to visit with my sister-in-law's family in West Palm Beach for a couple of days before introducing my wife and seven-year-old daughter to Uncle Walt's dream. My only regret that we couldn't stay longer. Things have changed a lot in the 24 years since I last visited ORlando, but the experience of this past week is one I'll treasure for years to come.
Here's a picture we snapped of ourselves in Epcot at the Kodak Incredible Picture Lab in Epcot.
I'm just as ugly as ever, but the wife and kid sure are cute.
I'll be back online and back up to my normal posting frequency within the next 48 hours or so, and will try to get something out later this afternoon.
I want to thank my brother and blog designer extraordinare "phin" for keeping you all entertained with his guest-blogging. Should you ever want a web or blog design or your own, consider contacting him and his partners in crime at Apothegm Designs.
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May 26, 2007
See You Later, Alligator...
I'll be offline (and outdoors) in sunny southern Florida for the next week, so I'm turning over the keys of
CY to my brother "phin" of
Apothegm Designs to do with as he will.
Frankly, I'm scared. He's been known to be a little... warped.
I'll be back to inspect the damage and resume posting on June 4.
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May 24, 2007
Blame It On Cheney, And Those Evil, Evil Joos
At least when Andrew Sullivan spins off into the more paranoid recesses of his mind, he retains the minimal sense to claim he's just "airing a theory."
Not so with Steve Clemons, who wants full credit for his recent meltdown:
Multiple sources have reported that a senior aide on Vice President Cheney's national security team has been meeting with policy hands of the American Enterprise Institute, one other think tank, and more than one national security consulting house and explicitly stating that Vice President Cheney does not support President Bush's tack towards Condoleezza Rice's diplomatic efforts and fears that the President is taking diplomacy with Iran too seriously.
This White House official has stated to several Washington insiders that Cheney is planning to deploy an "end run strategy" around the President if he and his team lose the policy argument.
The thinking on Cheney's team is to collude with Israel, nudging Israel at some key moment in the ongoing standoff between Iran's nuclear activities and international frustration over this to mount a small-scale conventional strike against Natanz using cruise missiles (i.e., not ballistic missiles).
This strategy would sidestep controversies over bomber aircraft and overflight rights over other Middle East nations and could be expected to trigger a sufficient Iranian counter-strike against US forces in the Gulf -- which just became significantly larger -- as to compel Bush to forgo the diplomatic track that the administration realists are advocating and engage in another war.
A fascinating hypothesis, isn't it?
Unfortunately, the "logic" of Clemons claim has a few small—almost imperceptible, so tiny that you wouldn't hardly notice—flaws.
One of those infinitesimal flaws is the theory that Israel would have spent 6.5 billion dollars to procure 25 F-15I "Ra'am" and 102 F-16I "Sufa" long range strike fighters and easily another couple of billion on munitions, training, maintenance, etc, in beginning to prepare for strike on Iran's nuclear program in the past decade, only to decide to lob a few anemic cruise missiles instead.
I get the mental image of Baseball Bugs winding up in a frenetic and convoluted windup only to deliver an impossibly slow slowball against the Gashouse Gorillas.
Does Clemons honestly think that Israel has been preparing for this possibility for well over a decade—well in advance of their decade-long procurement and training operations—just to launch an attack that would almost certainly fail to seriously disrupt Natanz, and would not even touch the other underground sites where Iranian nuclear weapon development is thought to be occurring? Obviously, he does.
He is also flatly wrong about cruise missiles not needing overflight rights—the need to acquire overflight rights exists as much for missiles as they do for aircraft, and ours were suspended by both Saudi Arabia and Turkey in March of 2003, just as an example—and conducting such an overflight without permission could be viewed as an act of war by Israel's neighbors.
Israel will also obviously be bombarded by Hezbollah (And possibly Iran and Syria) for any strike on Iran, so to set themselves up to suffer massive rocket attacks like those of less than a year ago hoping that Iran would target U.S. forces in Iraq for retaliation is, well, a bit daft.
Why, precisely, would Iran choose to attack formidable American forces in Iraq in retaliation for an Israeli attack? American Air Force, Marine, and naval airpower completely own air superiority in the Persian Gulf and over Iraq, and so any attempt of Iran to physically venture into Iraq would amount to a rewrite of the Highway of Death on an epic scale, leaving the Iranian mullacracy in a severely weakened state. What would Iran have to gain?
Or is Clemons implying—merely "floating a theory"—that Cheney, the Joos, and Ahmadinejad are all in cahoots, and want a war in which all sides suffer losses for no real gain? Who benefits from such lunacy?
Halliburton.
Of course.
Sniff: I should leave the snark to Ace. The man is a master.
Update: I should have seen this coming, huh?
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"Why, precisely, would Iran choose to attack formidable American forces in Iraq in retaliation for an Israeli attack"
Gee, I dunno, maybe because our forces in Iraq are sitting ducks for them? It won't be highway of death redux. All they have to do is give the signal to their proxies in Iraq, the Badr corps, the Mehdi Army, who have been basically sitting on their hands these last few years. If those guys start moving against us en masse it will not be a pretty picture.
Posted by: Arbotreeist at May 24, 2007 05:54 PM (N8M1W)
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Look CY we can put this off and pretend Iran is buddy or we can suck it up and GIT ER DONE. Maybe you need to show some SPINE
Posted by: Karl at May 24, 2007 06:04 PM (e+LpB)
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Clemons is delusional. Cheney plotting against Bush?
By the way, the largest stockholder in Halliburton was Lady Bird Johnson. Probaly her heirs now.
Posted by: Roy Lofquist at May 25, 2007 01:10 AM (0pd9m)
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If those guys start moving against us en masse it will not be a pretty picture.
Posted by: Arbotreeist at May 24, 2007 05:54 PM
Yeah for them, recall the battle of An Najaf? Lets see a Company of Marines wiped out 5000 Mahdi Army amauters in a few days. Right now the kill ratio in Iraq is up around 200 terrorists to one of ours it is even higher if all you look at is squad level fire fights. It would be a dream come true if they actually exposed themselves in a in company size fights instead of being the cowards they are and using IED's.
Posted by: Oldcrow at May 25, 2007 03:59 AM (q7b5Y)
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Clemons and the Democratic foreign policy elite paint the Iranians as ten feet tall. They are manifestly not. Iran did reasonably well to push Saddam's army back to the frontier in the 1980's, but then resorted to human wave stuff that the Iraqis were able to throw back. Now they are firing off antiquated missiles and producing new fighters based on the old Northrop F-5 Tigershark. And yes, there's the Quds force. But it's not as if the Revolutionary Guards are the Werhmacht, okay?
I mean, they'd have trouble keeping up with the
Hitlerjugend Panzerdivision. They're good, but in a stand up fight, trained U.S. infantry will slaughter them.
State and Defense are ramping up the two-sided diplomacy to encourage the Mullahs to negotiate. They won't. They'll do something stupid over the summer and attack us by way of Israel. I can almost guarantee this. It's what fascists do. Clemons and the Democrats can't accept this because they've psychologically bought into the notion of Puppemaster Cheney, Chimpy, and Hapless Condi conspiring to start a war with the innocent Iranian Nazis.
It's really quite funny. It's akin to blaming Hitler's march into the Sudetenland over bad feelings left over from the Versailles Treaty. But that's the kind of high wierdness you get over at the Reality Based Community.
Posted by: section9 at May 25, 2007 09:38 AM (H6lGz)
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Oh, shoot, I almost forgot. Clemons didn't mention the Worldwide Zionist Banking Conspiracy with their Hooked Noses. So I will.
JOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSS EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!!
AND THEY'VE GOT CRUISE MISSILES! AND FIGHTER BOMBERS! AND HAMENTASHEN!!!
AND RUGGALAH!!
Actually, you should try the chocolate ruggalah, especially around Purim. And I speak as a good Gentile. Goes great with your worldwide Jewish Konspiracy.
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May 14, 2007
Banned Aid
How good of an idea is
this?
Soldiers serving overseas will lose some of their online links to friends and loved ones back home under a Department of Defense policy that a high-ranking Army official said would take effect Monday.
The Defense Department will begin blocking access "worldwide" to YouTube, MySpace and 11 other popular Web sites on its computers and networks, according to a memo sent Friday by Gen. B.B. Bell, the U.S. Forces Korea commander.
The policy is being implemented to protect information and reduce drag on the department's networks, according to Bell.
"This recreational traffic impacts our official DoD network and bandwidth ability, while posing a significant operational security challenge," the memo said.
The armed services have long barred members of the military from sharing information that could jeopardize their missions or safety, whether electronically or by other means.
The new policy is different because it creates a blanket ban on several sites used by military personnel to exchange messages, pictures, video and audio with family and friends.
My gut reaction? While I can understand the infrastructure demands that these and similar sites place upon defense networks designed first and foremost with military applications in mind, the ban once again shows a fundamental lack of understanding by military officials the importance online communications can and should play as part of a modern military's communications strategy.
Predictably, users of these sites will simply shift to similar sites that are not banned, and the military will waste more time and resources attempting to keep up in an ever-expanding, cat-and-mouse challenge as our ever-resourceful troops find new ways to keep lines of communication open with their stateside friends and family.
Instead of attempting to muzzle communications between soldiers and their social networks, the military should encourage communications between the troops in the field and their friends and family members back home. Time and again, the most positive messages coming out of Iraq and Afghanistan are those being voiced by our soldiers to friends and relatives in emails transformed into in blog entries and newspaper editorials.
The War on Terror is every bit as much a war of pixels and pictures and mindshare as it is a war of bullets and bravery. al Qaeda and the various insurgent groups know this instinctively, and dominate social networking and file-sharing sites. The Pentagon should engage their own Army of Davids and have our troops counter terrorist propaganda with their own frontline perspectives. Instead, those in senior positions who do not understand the communications battlespace plan to flee the online field, ceding it to the enemy.
There is no other way to address this than to call this flawed policy what it is: military communications shortsightedness of epic proportions.
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I excerpted and linked at DoD blocks MySpace, YouTube, others (and part of this blog). I've been surprised how little I've seen this mentioned on other pro-troop sites, even after I emailed some of them to make sure they knew about it. I'd probably have seen your post earlier if I hadn't been busy redoing my site to make it less dependent on Photobucket, one of the sites that's apparently blocked now. I was hoping the brass learned something from the milblogs fiasco but apparently not.
Posted by: Bill Faith at May 14, 2007 10:05 PM (n7SaI)
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I know someone who XXXXX that processes all the XXXXX into and out of Iraq. They said the pipe is indeed limited.
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May 04, 2007
Virus Alert
Vast swathes of the Internet are mysteriously down today, affected by a peculiar virus specifically targeting keyboard drivers at university women's studies programs, academic journals, and certain political Web sites around the world. The virus corrupts specific DLLs and renders keyboards inoperable.
The virus appears to be emanating from a specific CNN.com Web server.
Computer users from these locations loose the ability to use their keyboards after viewing this particular story, where al Qaeda terrorists attempted to turn a all-girls school under construction north of Baghdad into a giant bomb.
The virus, dubbed "Cognitive Diss," does not yet have a patch developed, though antivirus teams are said to be hard at work.
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Am I missing a punchline? I find no information on this.
Posted by: mekan at May 04, 2007 12:45 PM (hm8tW)
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Yep, you missed it, though it might be my ability to deliver satire is simply below par.
American feminists, if they were truly liberal, and truly feminist, should be outraged over the Islamist targeting of a girls school by al Qaeda.
The often violent oppression of women by radical Islam
should be a natural intellectual battlefield for them, but their hatred of one man (Bush) far outweighs their support of millions of oppressed women, and so they sit, mouths wired shut.
This post was an satirical attempt to explain that not-really-feminist silence.
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I for one kind of welcome the silence at least they aren't blaming Bush for planting the bombs (yet). Of course they'll find some rethuglican-penis-wielding-womb butcher to blame, it's just a matter of time...
Posted by: phineas g. at May 04, 2007 01:19 PM (CQcil)
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I've done a complete scan and I'm clean.
Posted by: TourPro at May 04, 2007 01:46 PM (nPSMH)
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phineas g., they don't need to look any farther than President Bush. The line will be something like 'if he hadn't started this illegal war those poor freedom fighters wouldn't have had to plant bombs in a girls school to drive out the baby-killing American oppressors.' Ten to one Rosie is sputing something like that already.
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Nah CY, you are on the nose. My attempt at the straight man, not that there is anything wrong with that, was a bit lame.
No information because the keyboards were broken due to the virus.
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May 03, 2007
Army Blog Gag Order Fact Sheet
A reliable source passed along the following:
Fact Sheet
Army Operations Security: Soldier Blogging Unchanged
Summary:
- America's Army respects every Soldier's First Amendment rights
while also adhering to Operations Security (OPSEC) considerations to
ensure their safety on the battlefield. - Soldiers and Army family members agree that safety of ourSoldiers are of utmost importance.
- Soldiers, Civilians, contractors and Family Members all play an integral role in maintaining Operations Security, just as in previous wars.
Details:
- In no way will every blog post/update a Soldier makes on his or
her blog need to be monitored or first approved by an immediate
supervisor and Operations Security (OPSEC) officer. After receiving
guidance and awareness training from the appointed OPSEC officer, that
Soldier blogger is entrusted to practice OPSEC when posting in a public
forum. - Army Regulation 350-1, "Operations Security," was updated April
17, 2007 - but the wording and policies on blogging remain the same from
the July 2005 guidance first put out by the U.S. Army in Iraq for
battlefield blogging. Since not every post/update in a public forum can be monitored, this regulation places trust in the Soldier, Civilian Employee, Family Member and contractor that they will use proper judgment to ensure OPSEC. - Much of the information contained in the 2007 version of AR530-1 already was included in the 2005 version of AR 530-1. For example, Soldiers have been required since 2005 to report to their immediate supervisor and OPSEC officer about their wishes to publish military-related content in public forums.
- Army Regulation 530-1 simply lays out measures to help ensure operations security issues are not published in public forums (i.e.,blogs) by Army personnel.
- Soldiers do not have to seek permission from a supervisor to send personal E-mails. Personal E-mails are considered private communication. However, AR 530-1 does mention if someone later posts an E-mail in a public forum containing information sensitive to OPSEC considerations, an issue may then arise.
- Soldiers may also have a blog without needing to consult with their immediate supervisor and OPSEC officer if the following conditions are met:
- The blog's topic is not military-related (i.e., Sgt. Doe
publishes a blog about his favorite basketball team). - The Soldier doesn't represent or act on behalf of the Army in any way.
- The Soldier doesn't use government equipment when on his or her personal blog.
- Army Family Members are not mandated by commanders to practice OPSEC. Commanders cannot order military Family Members to adhere to OPSEC. AR 530-1 simply says Family Members need to be aware of OPSEC to help safeguard potentially critical and sensitive information. This helps to ensure Soldiers' safety, technologies and present and future operations will not be compromised.
- Just as in 2005 and 2006, a Soldier should inform his or her OPSEC officer and immediate supervisor when establishing a blog for two primary reasons:
- To provide the command situational awareness.
- To allow the OPSEC officer an opportunity to explain to the Soldier matters to be aware of when posting military-related content in a public, global forum.
- A Soldier who already has a military-related blog that has not yet consulted with his or her immediate supervisor and OPSEC officer should do so.
- Commands have the authority to enact local regulations in addition to what AR 530-1 stipulates on this topic.
The source suggested this was a "climb down" on the part of the Army. I honestly don't know enough about the original set of orders, or how they were enforced within the Army, to comment, but will link those who do when they post.
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Well, well well the fit hit the shan, and the Army nut case who wrote the order is now in Iraq. Enjoying the weather I'm sure. Hope s/he doesn't rely on email to contact their family.
Posted by: CoRev at May 03, 2007 03:40 PM (0U8Ob)
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The first thing I did when I read the WIRED article was write PAO in Iraq (stil waiting for a response) for confirmation. Although the WIRED article appeared well sourced and not the typical MSM hype, it still didnt sit right with me. I think it will come out that there is no observable change and a lot of us milblog supporters will look way too reactionary for flying off at the army. Of all people, those on the right should know by now that when it comes to media reports, identify your target before you fire. I haven't read the new manual yet, but lot's of times things are re-written to provide legal cover (like to allow prosecution for breaking a reg) and aren't meant to be taken as a real change to current practice (but of course, not always).
Posted by: Ray Robison at May 03, 2007 05:00 PM (z62e3)
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The interesting thing is that the original 530-1 came out in March... the April 19th version was to fix typos. Did nobody see the March version?
As someone who fell afoul of this stuff back before the Army heard the word "blog" in 2003, it is unfortunately not a minor matter - I was fortunate in that it was determined that it wasn't a deliberate thing on my part and I only received a General Officer Letter of Reprimand....
Posted by: SGT Jeff (USAR) at May 03, 2007 05:07 PM (yiMNP)
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Whether today's clarification was a climb-down or the whole thing was a misunderstanding to begin with, things are looking a lot less grim now than 24 hours ago. --
The END of Military Blogging? -- Day 2
Posted by: Bill Faith at May 03, 2007 10:39 PM (n7SaI)
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At first glance it seems ridiculous, but secuity is extremely important at a time like this. The enemy does have computers, and the MSM does have a tendancy to print first ask questions later. I think they should let the Soldiers email their families as much as they want though.
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May 02, 2007
Silencing the Milbloggers
Over the weekend, milblogger Jim ("Uncle Jimbo") Hanson was
asked on CNN:
Let me ask you quickly, Jim, there's been a lot made of the media improvements by the insurgents, that they're doing a great job of getting their message out. What are we going to see from our military as we move forward against that press machine, when they try to balance it?
The military's response, written by an Army Major, borders on incompetence.
The U.S. Army has ordered soldiers to stop posting to blogs or sending personal e-mail messages, without first clearing the content with a superior officer, Wired News has learned. The directive, issued April 19, is the sharpest restriction on troops' online activities since the start of the Iraq war. And it could mean the end of military blogs, observers say.
Military officials have been wrestling for years with how to handle troops who publish blogs. Officers have weighed the need for wartime discretion against the opportunities for the public to personally connect with some of the most effective advocates for the operations in Afghanistan and Iraq -- the troops themselves. The secret-keepers have generally won the argument, and the once-permissive atmosphere has slowly grown more tightly regulated. Soldier-bloggers have dropped offline as a result.
The new rules (.pdf) obtained by Wired News require a commander be consulted before every blog update.
I certainly understand the military's concerns about operational security, but this order takes us precisely in the wrong direction.
We need a greater flow of information, more firsthand accounts from our frontline soldiers, explaining to us in stark, sometimes vulgar language the exact nature of the war and the enemy we are fighting.
Military blogs, or milblogs, are the only way for frontline soldier to directly relate their experiences to the American public without the filters placed upon them by either the media or their military commanders.
Blog entries from Neil Prakash who formerly wrote at Armor Geddon, provided an irresistible, riveting account of the Battle of Fallujah from the viewpoint of a tank commander involved in the brutal house-to-house fighting. Prakash won a Silver Star during the battle he chronicled, and in writing about his experiences, provided a vivid window into the war that no reporter could emulate, a perspective that no dry MNF-I press release could convey.
At the time, Armor Geddon was perhaps one of the finest of milblogs, and did more to provide a real reflection of the conditions on the ground than any news anchor or wire service report. Armor Geddon became one of the first and most prominent casualties of the OpSec war. Prakash's blog fell silent on October 4, 2005.
One can only imagine what he could have accomplished in communicating the war effort since that time, had the military not decided to silence his voice.
Armor Geddon is just one of a galaxy of milblogs that could envelop the media organizations of the world, organizations that rely upon stringers, bureau reporters, and multiple layers of editors to provide a sterile, detached view of the war and the men fighting it.
Milblogs can and should be among our strongest assets is a war that is as much about perception as execution. Thousands of military bloggers, describing everything from excruciating boredom, to the rush of surviving the shot that just cracks past, milbloggers can serve not only as our first line defenders, but our first line of information.
If we want to win a war that is as much about information as it is about actual counterinsurgency, few can win the American public better than the American soldier or Marine communicating directly to the American people from their hearts.
I hope Army brass realizes this mistake before their concerns over operational security loses the war by not communicating "why we fight" to the American people.
Update: It's purely speculation, of course, but a couple of veterans in emails to Michelle Malkin have raised the possibilty that the new regulations were put in place as a response to harsh criticism of Harry Reid's "war is lost" comments.
The timeline--the order was issued April 19, well in advance of that particular defeatist comment--is wrong on the facts, but it raises an interesting possibility in principle: is it possible that Democratic pressure may be behind the Army's gag order?
Sure, Wonkette and others are quick to jump the gun and predictably "blame Bush" for the order, but like others buying that particular storyline, they obviously don't read milblogs.
Military bloggers are certainly not all fans of George W. Bush, but one thing is for certain, and that is that the overwhelming majority of them are strongly against the "retreat in defeat" plans that Democrats have been pushing since before the 2006 elections.
Who really has more to lose from a vocal military blogosphere? Is it the President, who has supported the military and their shared mission and still fights for it, or the Democrats, who seek to undermine every soldier's sacrifice and the Iraqi lives they are trying to protect?
NOTE: Any no, I don't personally think Democrats are behind this.
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Great catch and good analysis. We should also think about what a valuable resource these blogs are going to be for future historians. Milblogs are the new letters from the battlefield. If we silence them, weÂ’re losing one less window into the everyday life of a solider for future generations.
Posted by: dmarek at May 02, 2007 03:33 PM (WRyUa)
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Michael Yon (nod to Purple Avenger re Brooks) has been complaining for some time now that the military has no idea at all how to handle the public relations/information angle on this war and so the military has to go turn right around and further prove his point.
FUBAR.
Posted by: Cindi at May 02, 2007 05:45 PM (asVsU)
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What is so sad is even the most novice of us, me for example, realized this was going to be information warfare. We have screwed the pooch on this one from the very beginning. The administration has lost the high ground, due largely to their ineptitude at getting the message out. The Dems have politicized this from the very beginning and the Jihadists have out maneuvered and out messaged us from early on.
Now Army makes it even worse. How will this effect morale? Not well, be sure.
Posted by: CoRev at May 03, 2007 07:34 AM (0U8Ob)
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wow HR 1592 passed! It's 1935 all over again.
Posted by: akak at May 03, 2007 10:37 AM (VxPCs)
Posted by: David M at May 03, 2007 12:06 PM (jb28t)
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If this were being handled like a "real" war the military would assign a unit to review blogs for classified content then send them on their way. Ripe for abuse, sure, but better than clamping down on ANY content.
Posted by: DoorHold at May 03, 2007 12:25 PM (SM/Wg)
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Re: the Malkin thing.
It seems like any alleged Lefty pressure to silence the blogs would go against the well-known Lefty pressure to get more and more details to the public. We on the Left assume that war is horrific, and that details about this horror will turn people away from it. This goes back to the "Nightline" listing of the war dead and the struggle to get photos of the caskets published.
Silencing the blogs would keep the details out of the public eye--the opposite of what the goal has been up until now.
Posted by: Doc Washboard at May 03, 2007 01:07 PM (nrafD)
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I'm working for the DoD right now, and what I'm hearing is that those criticisms WERE what prompted the new emphasis. Nothing official, of course.
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April 30, 2007
Redstate Conspiracy Theorizing Conclusively Debunked
Last week I confronted RedState blog for a post by "streiff"
attempting to say that they had a photo of an American GI "flipping off" an Associated Press photojournalist by the name of Maya Alleruzzo. Another Redstate contributor, "Thomas," went on further to claim that the picture in question was PhotoShopped.
Neither claim was true.
This is the photo in question:
The caption that ran with the photo at the time stated:
Staff Sgt Patrick Lockett 25, of Huntsville Alabama of Alpha Troop, 3rd Squadron, 1st Cavalry Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division patrols in Al Kargoulia, 25 miles (40 kilometers) east of Baghdad, Iraq, Fri., April 20, 2007. The 3rd Brigade of the 3rd Infantry Division is back in Iraq for the third time since rolling into Baghdad in 2003. (AP Photo/Maya Alleruzzo)
The caption incorrectly cites Lockett as a Staff Sgt, when he is actually a SFC, but that is a much more trivial matter. What does matter is that Redstate never issued a correction for their false claim, even when I sent them an email alerting them to my previous post, which clearly shows an CY-enhanced photo showing that the finger shown is actually SFC Lockett's trigger or index finger.
Clearly, Lockett was not "flipping off" the AP photographer.
Over the weekend I got in touch with MAJ Joseph (Joe) R. Sowers, 3rd HBCT/3rd ID Public Affairs Officer, who contacted the soldier in the picture, Lockett, directly.
Lockett clearly states:
In the picture, it is my trigger finger outside of my trigger well. I would never give a reporter, nor any Iraqi citizen, a middle finger. I am more professional than that. I am a SFC in the United States Army and proud of what I do.
Now that SFC Lockett himself unequivocally supported what the enhanced photo clearly shows, will "streiff" and "Thomas" at Redstate have the common decency to apologize for their incorrect claims and issue either a correction or a retraction? I certainly hope so. Their credibility hangs in the balance.
As for the Associated Press photojournalist, Lockett's commanding officer, COL Wayne Grigsby, had this to say:
In my opinion, Maya Alleruzzo is an excellent photojournalist who accurately portrayed the Sledgehammer Soldier executing his duties to standard, to include, his weapon on safe and his finger outside the trigger well.
Maya Alleruzzo is an excellent representation of the media. Her efforts allowed us to showcase the outstanding work of our great young Soldiers that we would otherwise have not been able to do. We consider her an honorary member of the Sledgehammer Team. We would welcome her back in the brigade at any time.
Journalists make mistakes. So do bloggers. The only way for any of us to maintain our credibility is to admit those mistakes, and attempt to correct the record.
I hope that Redstate will therefore correct their claims regarding SFC Lockett and photographer Maya Alleruzzo. They unfairly attacked the professionalism of SFC Lockett, and misrepresented the esteem with which the 3rd Heavy holds Alleruzzo, apparently for their own amusement.
Faced with the facts, Redstate should do the right thing and correct their inaccurate, defamatory post.
Update Mike Krempasky just discovered that the general comments form at Redstate has apparently been down for at least a week, which is why no one there got or responded to my messages.
Erick's response, on Redstate, however, is sad; a non-apology apology, blaming everyone else.
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Yawn. Bummer. I would have totally flipped the photographer off.
Posted by: The Fastest Squirrel at April 30, 2007 02:00 PM (z62e3)
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Yep. Come clean, take your lumps.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 30, 2007 03:39 PM (ivi7/)
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Good trigger discipline and good muzzle discipline. Well trained soldier.
Posted by: Robin Roberts at April 30, 2007 04:03 PM (lb5ht)
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CY - I've been looking through my email from a note from you, my apologies, but I haven't followed this at all.
Posted by: Krempasky at April 30, 2007 04:28 PM (iOKnX)
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"Well trained soldier"
He's an E-7, a senior non-commissioned officer in the top three. He's a professional leader of men (and women) He's concentrating on what his troops are doing and his mission and trying to keep everyone alive. He probably didn't even give the photographer a second glance after he determined he posed no (immediate) threat
Posted by: E9 RET at April 30, 2007 04:31 PM (pR1iW)
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I'm in the school photo business, and we see this kind of stuff all the time. Sometimes what you think you see ain't at all what you see.
Posted by: dkbaby at April 30, 2007 04:41 PM (XvWBq)
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"Thomas," went on further to claim that the picture in question was PhotoShopped
No, I did not. I'm not going to apologize for something I didn't say. What I
did say was,
Greetings to our lurking moonbats! For your information, this highly photoshopped photo is directly courtesy of the Associated Press. That's right: You caught us. We put a deep mole into the AP so we could arrange to have a photo altered to show some kid flipping the photographer off -- and then our second mole passed it along to the wire service. Great, great, great is our power.
Now, I suppose this might mean that I literally meant that the photo was photoshopped; or, in the alternative -- and I think anyone who reads this carefully, especially the sentences that follow, would think this -- I was being sarcastic (hence, the "deep mole" at the AP).
However, I'm into conciliation, so: I apologize if I was too dry.
NB: I'm a Director at RedState. I never received any email from you, through the Contact Form or through my personal email address.
Posted by: Thomas at April 30, 2007 04:51 PM (7Lp4v)
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Sometimes people get too invested in their words. You both write good stuff and it's time to move on...
Posted by: E9 RET at April 30, 2007 05:22 PM (pR1iW)
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Sometimes people get too invested in their words. You both write good stuff and it's time to move on..Yeah, yeah, blah, blah. It's time to move on after the Redstate folks acknowledge the error that CY pointed out.
He's not "invested in his words." Would I be "invested in my words" for pointing out the sun sets in the west to somebody broadcasting that it sets in the east?
Are you "too invested in your words" when you start blabbering on about people being "invested in their words?"
There is accuracy, and there is error. I certainly do hope those who believe in the first remain invested in that belief, as well as remaining invested in the notion that accuracy is more to be valued than error, and that the two are not equivalent.
Posted by: Bill Quick at April 30, 2007 05:50 PM (0vVG5)
Posted by: ScoutAZ at April 30, 2007 07:11 PM (h90k6)
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Thomas, perhaps someone else is deleting these comments, both of which have been forwarded to Krempasky (I'd checked the "send me a copy" option).
Erick's
non-apology apolgy is nice. Very John Kerry.
The "he did it first!" excuse doesn't work past first grade. It's called "accountability," kids.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at April 30, 2007 07:53 PM (HcgFD)
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The point is not "he did it first," the point is that we posted a photograph which was provided by two presumably reliable sources. Upon viewing the same photograph, literally everyone who saw it assumed that it showed a soldier flipping off a cameraman - in fact, the initial reaction was not that the picture did *not* show the Hawaiian good luck sign, the accusation was that we photoshopped it.
So, yeah, we passed along a photo, which we got from someone else (in this case, directly from the AP), and *invited people to draw inferences* from it. It turns out that those inferences were incorrect, and we've indicated that on the front page. But I frankly don't see why an *apology* would be in order for passing along a photograph which by all concessions was accurate and inviting people to draw a reasonable inference from it (which was indeed the near universal inference to everyone who saw the photo, even without our prompting, which is why the AP yanked the photo shortly after posting it - the reasonable assumption here is that even *they* assumed that it contained an obscene gesture).
In other words, you couldn't make out a basic case of negligence here, which is the lowest level of culpability. Therefore, an apology would not be warranted. A correction is, and that's been provided. Why this is "John Kerry" is beyond me.
Posted by: Leon Wolf at April 30, 2007 08:23 PM (49Cjo)
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P.S. I am *very* offended that vanderbilt dot edu is in your site's spam filter. :-)
Posted by: Leon Wolf at April 30, 2007 08:24 PM (49Cjo)
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Thomas, perhaps someone else is deleting these comments, both of which have been forwarded to Krempasky (I'd checked the "send me a copy" option).
I have no idea what you mean. Do you mean emails you sent? Erick is lead dog over there these days; direct any concerns to him. If you mean "Contact Form" submissions, they don't get deleted before hitting our collective inboxes. Erick informs me that we've had problems with that lately; maybe they were lost in queue.
As to the rest:
(1) I accept your apology for misconstruing my words.
(2) I'm so glad you like Erick's work. Perhaps you might consider that
He did it first! has a specific meaning, outside the scope of that you seem to give it.
Posted by: Thomas at April 30, 2007 08:25 PM (7Lp4v)
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As a Huntsville Resident raised in NYC, I was hoping he was flipping off the AP on behalf of all Americans. It is a universal sign of disgust of a failed news reporting agency. AP is just the brainwashing arm of the DNC.
Posted by: Karen at May 01, 2007 09:00 AM (KcGC/)
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AP deserves more than just the finger. Perhaps leaving them alone in the desert. They wouldn't truth if it hit them in the face.
Posted by: Joe Pane at May 01, 2007 10:41 AM (sxhvh)
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Jesus, Bob, take a breather! You got housed by RedState. Time to move on and find another obsession. Hey, that lady wants to buy an orange whistle...
Posted by: ts at May 01, 2007 03:20 PM (ILyRW)
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What amuses me is no one tried this on their own weapons to see if it could be done.
I did and it can't.
Posted by: austin at May 01, 2007 06:38 PM (2AzGS)
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April 24, 2007
Not As It Appears
Redstate is currently running a post by "streiff" called
AP is Popular with the Troops that claims to show an American soldier on patrol in Iraq "flipping off" the Associated Press photographer, Maya Alleruzzo.
Blackfive provides a link to the original caption that IDs the soldier as:
Staff Sgt Patrick Lockett 25, of Huntsville Alabama of Alpha Troop, 3rd Squadron, 1st Cavalry Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division patrols in Al Kargoulia, 25 miles (40 kilometers) east of Baghdad, Iraq, Fri., April 20, 2007. The 3rd Brigade of the 3rd Infantry Division is back in Iraq for the third time since rolling into Baghdad in 2003. (AP Photo/Maya Alleruzzo)
On first blush, it appears to be exactly what RedState and Blackfive describe. But sometimes, even pictures can tell less than the whole story.
I got an email from Michael Yon this morning that including the following:
Bob,
You are the man for this. Maya Alleruzzo, currently a photographer for AP, is getting flack. I know Maya and she is very pro troopÂ…
I would email to Redstate directly but their email address is on my laptop (somewhere else). I think it's just a mistake because the people at Redstate have their hearts in the right place. Maya is out here in the worst parts of Iraq and she's a treasure -- though I know her association with AP puts her into harm's way.
I'm trying to run down Staff Sgt Lockett, who would be the ultimate authority on what was occurring in this picture. If I get a response, I'll be sure to post it. In the meantime, I trust Yon, who seems to know Alleruzzo, and the work of Alleruzzo herself. In addition to taking photos for the Associated Press, Alleruzzo occasionally writes.
Does this author of this article strike you as the kind of person our soldiers would flip off? How about this one, detailing the courage of a paralyzed Iraqi officer?
I don't think so. This sounds like the kind of photographer/journalist that soldiers would love to have around.
Of course, a closer look at the image may tell the story on its own.
I've cropped and enlarged the photo, and done some extremely high-tech phalanges modeling. Count the fingers, folks.
Unless Staff Sgt. Lockett is related to the Six-Fingered Man from The Princess Bride, the photo itself seems to provide the debunking. The bones extending from the wrist (crude gray lines) through the pinky finger define the outside shape of Lockett's glove and the hand it contains, and from there it is a simple matter to merely count the remaining knuckle impressions (shown with white dots) on the glove itself to account for the ring, middle, and index fingers.
It is the index finger you see alongside the M4 receiver, with the other three fingers (middle finger included) curled around the pistol grip of the carbine.
It seems a blogosphere retraction is in order.
Update: I'm very disappointed with Redstate at the moment. I sent them an email alerting them to the apparent fact that their claims were false, and to date, they've refused to issue a correction.
Apparently, they're either not monitoring their email, or are possessed by their own brand of "truthiness."
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It looks like he has what ever finger he desires on the safety. Some put an index, others the middle. Big deal.
Posted by: David Caskey at April 24, 2007 08:48 AM (G5i3t)
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much ado about nothing....
Posted by: jon at April 24, 2007 08:51 AM (5/OOn)
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The safety's actually on the other side, and is flipped with the thumb.
One of the safety rules is to keep your finger straight and off the trigger, as seen in the pic. When you're rolling with a condition 1 weapon, that's how your finger always is.
Good catch CY, and nice high-tech phalange modeling. Did you do that in a CSI lab?
Posted by: paully at April 24, 2007 08:58 AM (/7U2B)
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And you felt you needed to call the other blogs on it why? I suspect you think you are doing the right thing however it didn't advance anything and alot of us enjoyed the thought of the soldier flipping off the AP as they and Al Reuters have photoshopped so much and been so critical of our military men and women, so thanks for taking away the illusion.
Posted by: Rightmom at April 24, 2007 09:07 AM (0lpqx)
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I think it was a two-fold purpose:
a) To protect and recognize journalists who are on our side
b) To show the left that a widely read rightwing blog isn't afraid to call bullshit and will strive to maintain integrity, even if something happens to agree with what lots of us would really like to see
Posted by: paully at April 24, 2007 09:33 AM (/7U2B)
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And you felt you needed to call the other blogs on it why? I suspect you think you are doing the right thing however it didn't advance anything and alot of us enjoyed the thought of the soldier flipping off the AP as they and Al Reuters have photoshopped so much and been so critical of our military men and women, so thanks for taking away the illusion.
I can't actually beleive you feel this way.
I am doing the right thing by reporting the
facts, no matter where those facts lead us.
This AP photographer was
not being flipped off. If you read the two links to articles she has written, she seems to have a deep respect for both American troops and our coalition allies, and the sacrifices they have made. We don't have enough honest journalists out there, and I'll do my damndest to defend the good ones against obviously wrong attacks.
Publishing this post "advances" the truth, the very thing we hammer the media the most to provide. Instead, you advocate nothing less than the flip side of trutherism. Your basic message is
"Screw the facts. This is what I want to believe." This is warped, wrong, and dishonorable.
I will not apologize for attempting to publish the truth and correct inaccurate information, no matter who issues it.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at April 24, 2007 09:46 AM (9y6qg)
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Nice job CY. I bet we would never see a post like this at DU, FDL or KOS.
Posted by: Specter at April 24, 2007 10:05 AM (ybfXM)
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Posts like this are what make me respect this blog, even though we're on opposite sides of the political aisle.
And Pally is right. My weapons instructor would have smaked me upside the head if I ever placed my finger on the trigger unless I was ready to fire.
Hoo-uh, Bob, for keeping things straight.
On a side note, if I was on my third tour, I would be tempted to give someone the finger, but the photographer would be way down on the list.
Posted by: David Terrenoire at April 24, 2007 10:53 AM (kxecL)
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I think he is flipping the bird but he is doing it to keep his photo out of the press and thus himself and family more secure, a common tactic. He probably doesn't know or care who the photog is or works for. Just a thought
Posted by: Ray Robison at April 24, 2007 01:45 PM (z62e3)
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alot of us enjoyed the thought of the soldier flipping off the AP as they and Al Reuters have photoshopped so much and been so critical of our military men and women, so thanks for taking away the illusion.
Please tell me that Rightmom is a parody. I know people deceive themselves in order to remain happy, but very few will
actually admit it. From there it's a short trip to the padded room...
Posted by: scarshapedstar at April 24, 2007 03:24 PM (glUhi)
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Well....it was fun while it lasted. Until I saw the photo enlarged I figured that he was doing what all of us thought he was doing! Michael Yon's email put everything into it's proper perspective regarding Maya Alleruzzo.
Posted by: lib_NOT at April 24, 2007 04:05 PM (WKFlK)
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Good catch CY. Keep up the truth instead of the "truth".
Posted by: Justin at April 24, 2007 04:10 PM (NiTuu)
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Rightmom couldn't be more WRONG.
Keeping the media honest is a noble cause, and one that bloggers on both sides of the political spectrum, embraced with zeal, and as such it is imperative that we keep our own backyard clean.
Not sure if this came from Mike or Bob - but it is spot on:
“If we’re going to hammer the media for corrections and retractions when they blow a story, we should do the same with ourselves,”
Bob - you did the right thing, and I hope Matt and Redstate step up like you did.
Rightmom --- shame on you!
Posted by: Huntress at April 24, 2007 04:16 PM (Dqxeq)
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I know it's been a bunch of years but the M16s I carried had the safety/selector switch on the left side of the receiver (as does the civilian version I own)...or have the years fogged my memory? He would appear to be right handed and the 101 patch from a previous tour is on his right shoulder so the picture hasn't been "flipped" (is that even possible with digital cameras and printing these days?).
Side note - what are those red "tubes" on his right chest. Look like shotgun shells to me but ...?
Posted by: Piper 17 at April 24, 2007 06:52 PM (fCKeb)
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Rightmom, if CY is right, I completely agree with you. My son is in Charlie troop of that Squadron, and I sent him the picture and article from "Blackfive".
I read CY every day and agree with most of his thoughts. But, I am like you, what is the purpose or victory in finger f**king my dreams. It is a harmless gesture that for all intents and purposes brings a cheer to those with blood in this game.
Defiance is only one ingredient that makes up the spirit of the American fighting man. I believe that this soldier is letting everyone at home know that all is well and under control. I sleep better knowing that troopers like him are there.
I don't buy what CY is selling.
Posted by: DickB at April 25, 2007 01:45 AM (MQjIE)
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I've sent this link to Snopes.com. They are great at tracking down this sort of thing, and seem to play right down the line, politically.
Posted by: Ian at April 25, 2007 01:17 PM (RVKqG)
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Kudos for your correction, and shame on Redstate! Having read those articles by the AP reporter/photog in question, I cannot imagine that rightmom could have such a cavalier attitude about getting the record straight! Good for you, CY.
Advice to rightmom, go read those articles, then tell CY you're sorry.
Posted by: DagneyT at April 25, 2007 04:26 PM (AAEEI)
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Well I tried with both hands and when the bird
comes up you still have part of the index
showing...When you use the index they all fold
to the inside from middle to little and can't
be seen...
Posted by: Tincan Sailor at April 25, 2007 05:36 PM (L4HGI)
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Good job. Thanks for posting the truth.
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tbogg: Imus wannabe
"Nappy-headed ho's" had been overused, so he went with the
next best thing.
Sure, tbogg's a hypocritical racist, but making a racist attack on a conservative black woman is perfectly acceptable behavior for liberals.
Anticipate other liberal bloggers coming to his defense by sundown.
Update: tbogg's comments echo those of Doonesbury cartoonist Garry Trudeau from April 7, 2004, which prompted this response:
Recently, TrudeauÂ’s political observations ran a red light in referring to the nationÂ’s National Security Advisor, Dr. Condoleezza Rice, a black woman, as "brown sugar." Frankly, the political satire in the April 7, 2004 Doonesbury escapes me and most women I know, black or white, liberal or conservative, Democrat or Republican. It draws on centuries of deep-rooted, wicked and indefensible portrayals of black women. In doing so, it is decidedly unfunny. The only purpose served by this cartoon strip is that it proved one sad fact: despite the contentions of many, in 21st century America, race and gender still matter.
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The fact is that black women at the apex of power have struggled long and hard for respect. The struggle still continues. This is why in this context, references to black women as brown sugar are not funny. It reminds us of the historical exploitation of black women in America. It reminds us that there are those who believe that no matter how accomplished we may become, no matter how educated we are, and no matter how many books we read, black women should remain in "their place," figuratively or literally. This place is one that is out of public view.
tbogg joins a long list of liberals that feel it is their right to use racial slurs against black conservatives.
Some of these past racial attacks on Secretary Rice included Garry Trudeau's "Doonesbury" comic strip having President Bush refer to her as "Brown Sugar," Ted Rall's cartoon suggesting she was a "house nigga" needing "racial re-education" and Jeff Danziger depicting her a the slave "Prissy" from the movie "Gone With the Wind." Additionally, former entertainer Harry Belafonte referred to Secretary Rice as a "house slave" and "sell-out," while NAACP chairman Julian Bond called her a "shield" used by the Bush Administration to deflect racial criticism.
And lest we forget, liberal Steve Gilliard's Sambo smear against another black conservative, Michael Steele.
Tolerance. It's a liberal value.
Except when they don't feel like it.
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Liberals know how to bring the hate in a really professional manner.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 10, 2007 04:39 PM (yHGOW)
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Shouldn't that be 'whateveh'?
I'm done caring about who says what about whom. Really. It's gossip. We've got far more important things to mull over.
Posted by: Cindi at April 11, 2007 12:51 AM (asVsU)
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Um, "brown sugar" = "nappy head hos"? Really?
Seems like a bit of a reach to me...
Posted by: Kodos423 at April 11, 2007 04:11 AM (U3VUB)
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Anticipate other liberal bloggers coming to his defense by sundown.
Why? It's not like he's being attacked by anyone who really matters.
Posted by: Realist at April 11, 2007 06:43 AM (0wTC3)
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Kodos423, "brown sugar" is a racist sexual reference. If you don't believe me, look up the lyrics to the Rolling Stones song "Brown Sugar".
Posted by: MikeM at April 11, 2007 07:42 AM (myTC8)
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How exactly does "Brown Sugar" equate to "nappy-headed hos"?
Hey, at least you're not just pointing out this insignificant statement by a blogger to score some cheap points.
BTW, I think the fact that he capitalized "Brown Sugar" is an obvious reference to the Stones song and its ilk. I suppose you find Mick and Keith "intolerant" too.
Another BTW, "Confederate" is a term which "draws on centuries of deep-rooted, wicked and indefensible portrayals of black women" too.
Hackneyed and obtuse - must be a republican.
Posted by: jlo at April 11, 2007 07:49 AM (yfw+T)
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I see the Defender Corps has arrived!
I like the logic - since ours is "small 'r' racist stereotyping, and we think yours is "big 'R' racist, we get a pass.
To use the reductio in absurdum filter... oh, never mind, people usually don't get the 'absurdum' part when applied to their POV.
Posted by: John of Argghhh! at April 11, 2007 08:59 AM (HgYAW)
Posted by: David M at April 11, 2007 09:39 AM (6+obf)
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Really? The satire in Doonesbury escapes you? It's not that complicated. Perhaps Family Circus is more your speed. Don't even begin to take on Tbogg. He is way out of your league.
EL
Posted by: dre at April 11, 2007 09:39 AM (iD7Q5)
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Dre - satire makes it all okay, then. Oddly, I don't often see that defense as being deemed acceptable when it's the right being satirical.
You personally (whatever your political persuasion) may not suffer that peculiar myopia, but it's at the heart of the Bob's point.
Posted by: John of Argghhh! at April 11, 2007 10:16 AM (HgYAW)
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Actually, dre is right John. You're not in remotely the same league as racist, sexist bloggers.
Curious that anybody is.
Posted by: lex at April 11, 2007 11:22 AM (/A3c5)
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"I see the Defender Corps has arrived!
I like the logic - since ours is "small 'r' racist stereotyping, and we think yours is "big 'R' racist, we get a pass.
To use the reductio in absurdum filter... oh, never mind, people usually don't get the 'absurdum' part when applied to their POV.
Posted by: John of Argghhh! at April 11, 2007 08:59 AM"
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John: I'll see your fallacy in logic charge and raise you one more:
STRAW MAN
Description: It is a fallacy to misrepresent someone else's position for the purposes of more easily attacking it, then to knock down that misrepresented position, and then to conclude that the original position has been demolished. It is a fallacy because it fails to deal with the actual arguments that one has made.
I never said that CY is a racist because he uses "confederate" in his blog handle, but instead sought to point out the weak position of someone who argues that another blogger they don't like is a racist because he called a black woman "brown sugar" when he happily employs an online identifier that is (at least in this country) explicitly associated with the cause of maintaining slavery by both law and custom.
Now, I'm just pointing out the inconsistency there, not actually accusing CY of being racist or having a sub-consicous racist intent in choosing to use the term confederate. I don't regularly read this blog, much less know anything about its author, so I would never dare to spread such scurrilous charges without a lot more evidence.
I am a regular reader of Tbogg though and find his insights often biting and hilarious. Why he chose to refer to Ms. Rice as "Brown Sugar" is beyond me, but I would guess the twin pop icons of the Rolling Stones and Doonesbury are the likely antecedents. Does that make what he did right? I would posit the more pressing question is: "was it wrong"? It certainly doesn't make him racist without anymore evidence.
Lastly, your plea to except the cases of satire from knee-jerk cries of "racism", "sexism", etc. is right and should be obvious (but sadly is not to many), which is exactly my point in distinguishing Tbogg (who is making a political point) from the likes of that mean-spirited hag Imus (who made his statement rashly and insensitively with no intent to do anything other than hurt someone).
However, what example of right-wing satire do you specifically refer to? I don't remeber any right-wingers attempting to satirize something that left-wingers attacked as being racist in intent when the opposite was clear to any objective viewer.
I'm sure someone as astute about logical fallacies as yourself wouldn't be introducing a classic red herring in your response to Dre.
Posted by: jlo at April 11, 2007 01:10 PM (yfw+T)
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Why he chose to refer to Ms. Rice as "Brown Sugar" is beyond me
What does Occam's Razor suggest? He's simply a racist.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 11, 2007 04:41 PM (yHGOW)
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jlo: maybe you can kid yourself, but do not try and kid everyone else, tbogg's caption is clearly racist (negative comment based on color of skin); you can continue to defend tbogg, but read over caption and ask yourself, is this how I would want to be portrayed if that were me (caption is based on color of skin rather than merits of acccomplishment); the answer is NO, whether you will admit it or not.
Posted by: Bored at Work at April 12, 2007 07:22 PM (zu8Ks)
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And I am loving the idea that Imus insulting a female basketball team was "satire". What exactly was he satirising?
Posted by: Dr Zen at April 13, 2007 05:12 AM (OWLWF)
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Why he chose to refer to Ms. Rice as "Brown Sugar" is beyond me
What does Occam's Razor suggest? He's simply a racist.
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Purple - Occam's Razor could also suggest that you're simply a disingenuous authoritarian who loves to declare someone a racist upon the most paper-thin evidence, particularly when you disagree with his political stance. I'm sure if Imus was Rush, you would be on the other side arguing against "pc culture" run amok.
Maybe not, but Occam's Razor analysis does concern itself with nuance, does it?
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jlo: maybe you can kid yourself, but do not try and kid everyone else, tbogg's caption is clearly racist (negative comment based on color of skin); you can continue to defend tbogg, but read over caption and ask yourself, is this how I would want to be portrayed if that were me (caption is based on color of skin rather than merits of acccomplishment); the answer is NO, whether you will admit it or not.
Posted by: Bored at Work at April 12, 2007 07:22 PM
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Bored - Is this site always so supercilious? How is it "clearly racist" to point out that someone is black? By that standard, anyone who remarks that Barack is a "black candidate" running for Prez in '08 is a racist? And clearly, by your standard, Rush Limbaugh's comments about Donovan McNabb were "clearly racist" as he was basing his criticisms of the media on his perception that McNabb's celebrity was based almost exclusively upon his skin color. Race is a social construct we are forced to live with until our society does a lot more growing up. Until then, toughen up or stay home.
As to the "caption" you refer to, it's a snippet from a larger post about Wolfowitz's possible corruption problems at the World Bank. So, yes the issue is the "merits of her accomplishments", the quality of which reasonable men can differ about.
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And I am loving the idea that Imus insulting a female basketball team was "satire". What exactly was he satirising?
Posted by: Dr Zen at April 13, 2007 05:12 AM
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Dr - I don't know if you were directly responding to my comment, but if so - I have to wonder if you somehow missed the part where I said this:
"which is exactly my point in distinguishing Tbogg (who is making a political point) from the likes of that mean-spirited hag Imus (who made his statement rashly and insensitively with no intent to do anything other than hurt someone)."
Where I come from, when someone makes the point of "distinguishing" two elements under examination, he or she is not equating the two.
A powerful undercurrent of good satire is anger, which can be expressed in terms that others who don't share that anger find bewildering and offensive. What Tbogg was attempting to do was satirize the atmosphere of corruption that clouds the current administration. On the other hand, Imus was just be an old white asshole with no substantive point at all.
You can disagree with Tbogg, but calling him a racist for what is an ambiguous (at best) statement is just a cheap diversion from meeting his political points head-on.
Posted by: jlo at April 13, 2007 09:20 AM (yfw+T)
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jlo:
Is asking you to read something over and think about it actually haughty or treating you or subject matter with disdain, I do not buy it. Try this, forget context and who said what (your original point was comparing caption to Imus comments), or switch them; are you saying that if Imus used some expression equating Rutgers team or certain members as "brown sugar", that would be acceptable to you? It may not have caused the same hue and cry, but is it really acceptable?
In any event, learn to read, or read it again, caption does not point out C. Rice is "black" it labels her "Brown Sugar" (if you refuse to concede that connotative meaning of "Brown Sugar" is racist and replete with negative racial overtones (and the SOLE reason that tbogg used that expression) - it makes it pretty hard to take you seriously). With that in mind, I am not sure who or what you were actually responding to in first paragraph addressed to me.
One final note, I do note beleive that caption has anything to do with rest of tbogg entry (I beleive that first paragraph relates to Wolfowitz and current ethics problems and second paragraph refers to C. Rice and G. Bush), consequently, label says nothing or portrays nothing or is not even remotely about, C. Rice's "accomplishments".
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Nice Story. Now Comes the SAPI Truth
Via
Instapundit, I ran into
this article on Gizmodo, where they claim an Apple Ipod saved the life of a soldier by slowing a bullet that hit him in the chest:
He was on patrol in Iraq when he met an armed insurgent carrying an AK-47. Both opened fire, and the bullet heading toward Kevin hit his chest right where his iPod was, which was enough to slow down the bullet to not pierce entirely through the body armor.
It's a great story, and one that is great word-of-mouth marketing for Apple. Too bad it probably isn't true.
Our soldiers wear Interceptor body armor manufactured by a company called Point Blank. Interceptor armor used by our troops in Iraq is composed of an outer tactical vest (OTV) that will stop 9mm bullets, and small arms protective inserts (SAPI) plates made of boron carbide ceramic and backed with bullet-resistant liner that cover the chest, back and sides. These SAPI plates are designed to stop three 7.62 bullets.
An Ipod? Not so much.
If the soldier was shot in a head-on confrontation as the story seems to describe, the SAPI plate on his chest is responsible for saving his life, not a piece of fruity electronic equipment.
Update: Is this story merely an urban legend? I just got a response back from JOC PAO (Joint Operations, Public Affairs in Iraq) suggesting that may be the case:
Hi Bob,
We got another query in on this story yesterday, and have sent it out to
3rd IDs units to see if this guy exists. We have not yet heard anything
back.
I suspect this is one of life's Urban Myths....
However if we get an answer back from the division I'll forward it on to
you!
Regards
Tracy Peyman
Lt Cdr RN
JOC PAO OIC
MNC-I
Something tells me this is likely going to end up on Snopes as a hoax.
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While I agree it was probably the Interceptor BA that saved his life, if the bullet was going fast enough to trash through the IPOD like that, the IPOD probably did save him from injury.
Posted by: SGT Jeff (USAR) at April 06, 2007 10:58 AM (yiMNP)
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I disagree,
The ipod is soft plastic (thin) and backed by very thin aluminum. Looking at the picture shows that the bullet went through the upper corner, missing the harder internal parts. While I agree that it slowed the bullet some, The vest probably would have absorbed that much more impact without problem.
Of course we'll never know for sure will we.
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It's also very reminiscent of the story that the late James Doohan of "Star Trek" fame told of being saved on D-Day when he was a Canadian soldier, by a metal cigarette case he was carrying, which stopped the bullet. If this new story is indeed a hoax, I wonder if Scotty was indeed the inspiration.
Posted by: Ed Driscoll at April 06, 2007 01:25 PM (W0Vxv)
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An iPod couldn't stop a .25 Who are these people kidding?
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 06, 2007 06:33 PM (22lCG)
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Heh. CNN contacted me about this, wanting my opinion.
If it's true, it's a great *story* regardless of the absolute truths in the issue of what saved who's life.
If it's faked, well, shame on 'em.
But that iPod didn't bleed off enough energy to make a significant difference in the penetrative ability of a standard military ball round, especially at the asserted ranges.
That said - if it happened as described, the soldier may well believe it, or see it as SGT Jeff does.
I do think, based on my email, that there's a lot of electrons being expended on the subject.
Want to get better protection than that iPod? I'll
suggest one of these. At least the plate there is hardened steel, imbued by a higher power. 8^)
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Who knows how fast the bullet was moving when it hit? From far enough away, the kinetic energy could have been so reduced that even a matchbook might have substantially slowed it further.
I'm put it in the 'possible, but there's a lot of missing info' category.
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Ware Outburst Apology
As noted in an update to
this post, Matt Drudge apparently got
April-fooled when he posted a "Drudge Exclusive" that CNN reporter Michael Ware heckled John McCain during a press conference in Baghdad.
Video of the press conference shows that Ware did not say or do anything unprofessional
during the press conference.
I typically do "that journalistic thing" and try to find a corroborating source for any news article I write about, but that isn't always easy to get, especially in the case of exclusives. As a result, when I run across an exclusive, I try to judge the credibility of the source, and the apparent validity of the information based on surrounding events.
In this particular case I had to consider the source, Matt Drudge. Drudge does occasionally screw up on his exclusives, but typically, as a news aggregator, his site turns out to be more often than not accurate. I'm sure that there are those of you who will dispute this, but don't confuse the accuracy of what he typically features on his site with the apparent bias he harbors in deciding which stories to promote.
Michael Ware had just spoken derisively of John McCain, and so it seemed possible that the events could occur. It seemed that the story could be accurate, based upon Ware's recent outburst and a pattern of reporting that betrays his biases.
Those of us who linked the Drudge account, including myself, screwed up and linked to an inaccurate story. I apologize to my readers.
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Thanks, CY. This is much better than the "UPDATE" other sites append to the very bottom of the offending post.
Posted by: Doc Washboard at April 03, 2007 08:51 AM (a2v8j)
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If you can just get to about a 90% error rate and offer no apologies or corrections, you will qualify as Main Stream Media.
Posted by: old_dawg at April 03, 2007 11:01 AM (7nc0l)
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Thanks for clearing that up, CY.
To show Ware's bias or unreasonableness you quoted him as saying: “I don't know what part of Neverland Senator McCain is talking about when he says we can go strolling in Baghdad.” It has since emerged that McCain assembled a small army to escort him on his stroll through Baghdad. McCain's hypocrisy exonerates Ware's comment, right?
FWIW I don't know anything about Ware. All I'm addressing is the one remark.
Posted by: Lex Steele at April 03, 2007 11:34 AM (xRKGN)
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The pro victory senator and presidential candidate had an appropriate security detail. No it is not hypocrisy and does not exonerate Ware's comment.
Posted by: Eddie Colletta at April 03, 2007 02:33 PM (9UEu0)
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Eddie,
You believe that McCain requires 100 soldiers, 3 Blackhawks, 2 Apaches and a bulletproof vest for a stroll through a safe neighborhood. What do you suppose he would require in an unsafe neighborhood?
You may as well argue that the earth is flat.
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Lex, he wasn't wearing a helmet. Maybe he was saving that for Detroit.
Not only did he take extraordinary measures for his own safety he put everyone in the markets lives at even more risk than usual in an attempt to try prove his boneheaded statement correct.
And the next day 22 people from that market were murdered.
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March 28, 2007
Out in Left Field
I hate to say this, but Gateway Pundit is voyaging into conspiracy theory territory on
this one.
First, he's unable to differentiate between unrelated bomb attacks elsewhere in Iraq (Ramadi and Abu Ghraib) and the two truck blasts in Tal Afar. How he can be so far off, I don't know... but he is.
Second, he is insisting that any additional information that becomes available in later stories about this event are indicative of a conspiracy, coverup, or shift of some sort. An early report that indicates police involvement is not negated by the discovery that elements in addition to the police may be involved. That is why they call them "developing stories."
I confirmed this story this morning before posting on it originally, and just learned moments ago that Alaa Al Taii, MOI Communications director has annouced a joint investigation by the Interior Ministry , Ministry of Defense, and and the Ministry for National Security is beginning, and that Interior Minister Bolani will personally be involved, and will visit the scene in Tal Afar tomorrow.
The incident reported by the Associated Press' Sinan Salaheddin as cited in my previous post appears to be correct, and the conflicting accounts are over details, not over the essnetial substance of the story.
This incident is not a hoax, some sort of conspiracy, or blame-shifting operation in effect. Our allies snapped, and massacred between 45-60 men.
As inconvenient and horrible as that is, it is the apparent truth.
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Reuters:
Gunmen rampaged through a Sunni district of the northwestern Iraqi town of Tal Afar overnight, killing about 50 people in reprisal for bombings in a Shi'ite area, Iraqi officials said on Wednesday.
Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, a Shi'ite, ordered an inquiry into reports the gunmen included policemen from his Shi'ite- dominated security forces, an official in his office said.
That doesn't sound like what you wrote CY.
"The incident reported by the Associated Press' Sinan Salaheddin as cited in my previous post appears to be correct, and the conflicting accounts are over details, not over the essnetial substance of the story."
Conflicting accounts! I'll say!
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Send a Chickenhawk to War
Time and again, we've heard liberals call conservative bloggers "chickenhawks," and tell them that if they care so much about the Iraq War, they should go join it (interestingly enough, I do know of a single liberal blogger that has volunteered to go serve in the Afghan theater, the war they ostensibly support. I've never claimed liberals were smart, nor consistent).
Now is the time that my liberal readers have a chance to put their money where their mouths are. If they care so much about conservatives going to Iraq, here's a chance to finance a trip.
The Pentagon has extended an invitation to send a pair of RedState bloggers to Iraq, and they are currently attempting to raise $7500 to make this trip happen.
Ante up, guys.
You might finally realize your dream of placing conservative bloggers in a position where they might come under gunfire, thereby giving Charles Karel Bouley and other Huffington Post bloggers a chance to say they deserved it. "What goes around comes around," etc.
Alternatively, you can contribute funds to support a liberal blogger who wants to go to Iraq to report what they see with their own eyes.
Good luck finding one.
Update: Oh Bartleby! Oh, the stupidity! Noted lefty war-reporting plagiarist Sean Paul Kelly decided to call the Redstate bloggers that are planning to embed "chickenhawks," without bothering with the little detail that one of the bloggers, Jeff Emanual, is a former USAF Spec Ops TAC.
Confronted with the fact that Emanuel has already served, Kelly offered up a lame, "well, since so many soldiers are doing two and three tours, why not enlist again?"
As I addressed to "Lex Steele" in the comments:
Increasingly, it appears to me that that the best liberals intend to do is provide lip service (and no commitment or support) to one campaign, while attempting to set the stage for a defeat in the other. As has been noted elsewhere and as you allude above, Iraq is seen by those of you on the left as a Republican War. Liberals, in their self-serving way, have decided that they don't need to fight, and in fact, shouldn't. Better patriotism through apathy, I suppose, when your side isn't actively trying to undermine the war and the military itself by attacking recruiting stations, harrassing campus recruiters, insulting them in classrooms, questioning their intelligence, and burning U.S. soldiers in effigy.
No, in your world, only "pro-war" (i.e., Republicans/conservatives) people should serve in this nation's military, and perhaps only then if they individually agree with the specific war they are called upon to fight.
Liberals have no obligation to serve their country in a Republican war. That is what you're trying to say, isn't it Lex?
Funny, how I don't recall our soldiers wearing a GOP flag on their shoulders, and distinctly recall that it was an American flag that was defecated on last week by anti-war liberals.
Update: Well, doesn't that beat all.
We do have a liberal blogger that has requested to go to Iraqi along with the two from Redstate. Can anyone at RedState contact the Pentagon to see if they have room for a third blogger?
I don't always agree with the politics of Gun-Toting Liberal, but I typically respect his opinion, even when I disagree with it. He's intelligent and thoughtful and I think it would be an excellent idea to include him on his embed. If they will arrange for him to make the journey, I hope you'll help finance his trip.
Upon his safe return, I will be very interested to see how visiting Iraq may affect his feeling about the war, for better, or for ill.
Correction: It was GTL co-blogger Alexander Paul Melonas that is interested in embedding.
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In a nutshell, RedState has been invited by the Pentagon to go to Iraq. We want to send Jeff and AcademicElephant, who henceforth insists on being known by her real name, Victoria Coates. = chicken hawks
Alternatively, you can contribute funds to support a liberal blogger who wants to go to Iraq to report what they see with their own eyes.
Good luck finding one. = chickensh*ts
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What obligation do liberals have to send conservative bloggers to Iraq, and why should we want to? Your assertion doesn't make sense.
We'd have adequate troops for Afghanistan if we hadn't diverted much of our military might into Iraq. It is the pro-Iraq war folks who ought to serve if they are able.
Posted by: Lex Steele at March 28, 2007 11:01 AM (7IB7k)
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Lex, I never said you had the
obligation to send conservative bloggers to Iraq, but as liberals constantly carp and complain that conservative bloggers should be in Iraq, I thought you'd jump at the
opportunity to send several there.
Granted, we both know that many liberals hope that conservative bloggers that chose to go to Iraq to report the war firsthand become victims of violence (If you need citations of this for proof, I can find oodles of references to Michelle Malkin's trip, and how liberal bloggers and their commenters hope she would go out without the military unit she was to embed with, with the clear implication that they'd prefer to have her die), but at least they chose to go.
I also stated you might want to financially support any liberal blogger who might want to see the war firsthand and write about it, but I don't think that I've seen a single attempt by a liberal to get embedded... have you? If run across one, I'll gladly promote their singular effort, and do what I can to make sure they know what equipment and protection they will need to both chronicle and survive their trip. I'm sure that the conservative bloggers who have embedded and who are embedded now would help as well, if asked.
You also assert that:
We'd have adequate troops for Afghanistan if we hadn't diverted much of our military might into Iraq. It is the pro-Iraq war folks who ought to serve if they are able.
You neglect to mention that if the liberals who
claim to support the Afghan War were to join up and request duty in Afghanistan, we wouldn't have any problems meeting commitments anywhere. Certainly, with all the brainpower and patriotism in the liberal blogosphere, there must be
someone calling for liberals to volunteer for duty in the "good war" in Afghanistan. Isn't there? Perhaps not.
Increasingly, it appears to me that that the best liberals intend to do is provide lip service (and no commitment or support) to one campaign, while attempting to set the stage for a defeat in the other. As has been noted elsewhere and as you allude above, Iraq is seen by those of you on the left as a
Republican War. Liberals, in their self-serving way, have decided that they don't need to fight, and in fact, shouldn't. Better patriotism through apathy, I suppose, when your side isn't
actively trying to undermine the war and the military itself by attacking recruiting stations, harrassing campus recruiters, insulting them in classrooms, questioning their intelligence, and burning U.S. soldiers in effigy.
No, in your world, only "pro-war" (i.e., Republicans/conservatives) people should serve in this nation's military, and perhaps only then if they individually agree with the specific war they are called upon to fight.
Liberals have no obligation to serve their country in a Republican war. That is what you're trying to say, isn't it Lex?
Funny, how I don't recall our soldiers wearing a GOP flag on their shoulders, and distinctly recall that it was an
American flag that was defecated on last week by anti-war liberals.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at March 28, 2007 11:43 AM (9y6qg)
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It was not GTL who offered himself to the Pentagon, it was me, Alexander Paul Melonas; one of his co-contributors. However, thank you for the kind remarks about the Gun Toting Liberal, and indeed, I again state my desire to accompany those from Redstate on their journey.
Posted by: Alexander Paul Melonas at March 28, 2007 02:36 PM (nRapB)
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CY-
Re: 'good war'
Call me naive, but if you enlist, do you have a choice in your theater?
-CZ
Posted by: ChenZhen at March 28, 2007 03:01 PM (IkiL2)
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ChenZhen: I think you're right. Pat Tillman volunteered to fight in Afghanistan, but ended up getting shot in what he called an illegal war in Iraq.
Posted by: Lex Steele at March 28, 2007 04:25 PM (7IB7k)
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Cpl. Tillman was shot on a mountianside in Afghanistan, not Iraq, and I have never read him saying that he thought it 'illegal'. (In fact as I recall, he refused all contact with the media his entire time in the Army, so I would love to hear how that story got started...)
That being said, the idea of 'orders' kinda mess up that whole volunteer for your 'preferred theater of conflict'. You goes where they tell you.
But hey, Lex, it makes a great line. Keep up the good work!
Posted by: MunDane at March 28, 2007 05:13 PM (/qH+3)
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Wow, Lex. I'm surprised you'd write that without at least googling it first. Is that the sort of thing people are saying? Where'd you get that information from?
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You guys don't understand. This is typical Lex. He makes statements and then refuses to back them up - and once he is shown to be wrong he changes the subject. Typical of the left.
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I was wrong about Tillman's place of death, obviously. He did serve in Iraq, though.
As for his political views: "Mary Tillman said a friend of Pat’s even arranged a private meeting with Chomsky, the antiwar author, to take place after his return from Afghanistan — a meeting prevented by his death. She said that although he supported the Afghan war, believing it justified by the Sept. 11 attacks, 'Pat was very critical of the whole Iraq war.'"
Posted by: Lex Steele at March 28, 2007 08:42 PM (W27N0)
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CY:
liberals constantly carp and complain that conservative bloggers should be in Iraq
They mean that war supporters should
fighting in Iraq. I think I can speak for most liberals when I say we don't much care if you all do your blogging from Iraq or not. That is why I said it doesn't make sense for you to expect liberals to pay to send Red State bloggers to Iraq.
we both know that many liberals hope that conservative bloggers that chose to go to Iraq to report the war firsthand become victims of violence
I don't believe that at all. I don't know anyone who wants reporters or soldiers to die in Iraq, or who thinks it's okay to burn soldiers in effigy, or who wants to abolish Christmas. Each of these is a misguided or dishonest attempt to portray liberals negatively. There simply aren't many people who believe those things.
if the liberals who claim to support the Afghan War were to join up and request duty in Afghanistan, we wouldn't have any problems meeting commitments anywhere
How about the supporters of the Iraq war step up? That's where we need to people most. My side thinks Iraq is a disaster, and not just for a lack of manpower. You all think it's winnable, so go help win it.
liberals ... [are] attempting to set the stage for a defeat in [Iraq]
That's a cynical way to put it. Most people in this country have decided the war was a mistake, or at least that it was too poorly waged. We don't want defeat, rather we don't know what a win would look like, thus we wish to quit pouring our youth and treasure into it.
in your world, only "pro-war" (i.e., Republicans/conservatives) people should serve in this nation's military,
No.
and perhaps only then if they individually agree with the specific war they are called upon to fight.
Sure! It's unAmerican to compel citizens to fight in wars they find immoral or illegal.
Liberals have no obligation to serve their country in a Republican war. That is what you're trying to say, isn't it Lex?
No. I pity every young man and woman who is compelled to fight this useless, disastrous war.
Funny, how I don't recall our soldiers wearing a GOP flag on their shoulders, and distinctly recall that it was an American flag that was defecated on last week by anti-war liberals.
Again, those were Ward Churchills. I don't know anyone who would condone treating the flag that way.
You're saying that this is an American war, and thus all Americans are equally responsible for participating. No one should have been asked to fight the war in the first place. It is a disaster and this is reflected in its unpopularity among Americans.
Posted by: Lex Steele at March 28, 2007 09:28 PM (W27N0)
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I responded to your comments over at The Gun Toting Liberal but stopped by here with them as well.
I respect you and your blog very much, but I have to say that in order for your position to be entirely fair, we would have to evaluate the results of the Pentagon having invited Red AND Blue bloggers to go to Iraq. Oh wait...they didn't do that. They invited ONE side of our very polarized blogosphere, didn't they? Now if BOTH sides were asked to go and (as you suspect) the liberal blogger swiftly declined - THEN your point would be valid and accurate.
"They" want one voice coming out of Iraq and I submit "they" should be set apart as the fearful ones for refusing to lay the groundwork for objectivity.
And also (just as a little FYI), GTL is an honorably discharged veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom.
Thanks again for bringing attention to this and for discussing it with the GTL.
Posted by: Megan at March 29, 2007 01:24 AM (Gq5Wi)
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Lex,
I don't believe all liberals want conservative bloggers to meet their bitter end, I do see that very few moderate liberals (if any) condemn those on the far left spewing such hate (flag burners, soldier burners, defacation, hope you die stuff...) Speak out against it if you see it as wrong. I do against the far right.
Many do go help to win in Iraq/Afgan. It is all one war whether you choose to believe it or not. Right now we are trying to stabilize both countries and remove the radicals. We are trying to give them a chance at freedom like we were given during the Revolutionary War. Don't they deserve a chance? Both countries?
Most people in this country do NOT believe the war was a mistake, they believe it was headed in the wrong direction, we now have new direction and it appears to be working, while it seems to be working, the DEMS in congress want to cut the funding out from under the troops and put out an arbitrary withdraw date. One word for that, STUPID. That is NOT supporting our troops. Whether you believe in the war or not, don't punish the troops.
A miliary member does not choose where he/she goes. They cannot choose to fight in one area and refuse in another. They sign up to defend the United States no matter where/when called upon to do so and all that join are fully aware of that obligation. It is not dark ages mentality, it serves a very real purpose, stability. Bluntly, WE are there for YOU. Problems with the war, Congress should be your outlet, not the Military.
You said "No. I pity every young man and woman who is compelled to fight this useless, disastrous war."
Don't pity us, we all knew what we were getting into and most would do it again if needed, even if we don't believe in the "war", it's for the U.S., not ourselves.
Posted by: Retired Navy at March 29, 2007 06:05 AM (JYeBJ)
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Actually, what I'm gathering is that the bloggers at Red State initiated the contact with the Pentagon four months ago, not htat the Pentagon contacted them. I wrote one of the bloggers at Red State making the trip, and will be able to follow up soon and verifiy that for sure, and pass along the contact information to get the embed process started to Alex as soon as I have it.
I don't know of you read Michael Yon, Michael Fumento, of the other bloggers who have embedded or attempted to embed in Iraq, but the Pentagon doesn't seem to much like any embeds, regardless of political stripe.
I'll have a post up on that subject later today.
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HuffPo: Tony Snow Deserved Cancer
Ah, the commenters at the Huffington Post are
at it again:
I admit my bias shows with these stories. I hear about Tony Snow and say to myself, well, stand up every day, lie to the American people at the behest of your dictator-esque boss and well, how could a cancer NOT grow in you. Work for Fox News, spinning the truth in to a billion knots and how can your gut not rot? I know, it's terrible. I admit it. I don't wish anyone harm, even Tony Snow. And I do hope he recovers or at least does what he feels is best and surrounds himself with friends and family for his journey. But in the back of my head there's Justin Timberlake's "What goes around, goes around, comes around, comes all the way back around, ya.."
Oh, hang on. that wasn't a commenter, but a mainstream (for the Huffington Post) HuffPo blogger, Charles Karel Bouley.
You guys remember Charles Karel Bouley, don't you ? He's the nice gentlemen that thinks God killed Boy Scouts in revenge for discriminating against gays. No, really.
Class of the Huffington Post, indeed.
Update: Allah has a roundup.
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Look down to post #17. Brouley explains that it isn't just Fox News that gives you cancer, But Bush, Cheney and Rove:
"OK, by the amount of evil email and actual death threats I have received, obviously you all misunderstood what I was trying to say or I was not clear. I believe that negativity can manifest inside the body. Just as stress can lead to strokes and heart attacks, high blood pressure, I believe if you surround yourself with vitriolic and terribly negative people like Cheney, Bush, Rove and the lot, it's bound to have a physical effect. Does he DESERVE cancer, no, no one does. But when you are in such a horrifying atmosphere the physical is bound to pay somehow. And AS I SAID, I wish him a full recovery and support of family and friends. But just as good things happen to bad people, isn't the converse of bad things happening to bad people true? I do not count Tony Snow as a good guy. He has publicy questioned my patriotism at the behest of his boss. I don't like that. But again, that doesn't mean I want him to have cancer.
By: karel on March 27, 2007 at 08:47pm
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Bush Responsible for Iranian Adulterers Being Stoned to Death For Past Millennia
Right, Andrew?
According to Sullivan Logic, the Iranian people, who have a culture thousands of years older than our own, could not function as a society until George W. Bush came along to show them how to act, for better, or for worse. Or at least the worst part.
It has been a very long time since anyone has accused Andrew Sullivan of being overly logical or coherent, and I don't think we are in any danger of anyone making that argument anytime soon.
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Final Deep Thought on The Libby Conviction, Before I Dismiss It For Eternity For The Relatively Minor Case That It Is
Thank
God Scooter Libby was
convicted. If he been acquitted, an irate Jane Hamsher would have depleted the global supply of
black ink for
months.
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I'm curious. Are you being disingenuous by writing "Libby conviction" and don't mean to include Libby sentencing, any Libby appeals, or a possible Libby Supreme Court Consideration or a possible Libby pardon?
I don't think the story is over by a long shot. Who knows, in addition to any of the possible to probable events I mentioned above, there might actually be some new revelations of one type or another.
But if you do mean to say 'never means never' about the whole still evolving story, will you let the fly on your wall put up a few posts about you scratching the itches?
Posted by: Dusty at March 06, 2007 05:14 PM (GJLeQ)
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If there's any "proportionality" in the sentencing, he'll get about a $2,000 fine and be picking up litter for a week. Compared to Sandy Burglar, who like did a real crime involving national security, Libby spit on the sidewalk.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 06, 2007 05:28 PM (5OYu4)
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Barring anything earth-shattering, Dusty, I don't intend to write about Scootergate anymore. Out of more than 1750 entries, his name has appeared on the pages of CY a grand total of 19 times, and most of those in passing. I've just never much cared about this minor case. Of course, the left think it's
huge, but as much as they've hyped it, it isn't that big of a deal to most folks.
Most people don't know who Libby was, and frankly don't see what the big deal is. I know who he is, can sort of understand why some people care, but frankly, could never get into it.
sorry.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at March 06, 2007 06:05 PM (HcgFD)
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CY - there are other sites that specialize in Plame, such as Just One Minute. The fact is that the case shows an absolute in the fact that our judicial system is corrupt at it's foundation. We have prosecutors that have run wild with power (i.e. Nifong, Earle, Fitzpatrick, etc.) and are not being held to reasonable ethical standards. We, as a country, are seeing further degradation of our rights in this case. It is a downward spiral that will lead...well...who knows where.
If you are interested in deeper analysis of the case visit
JOM. The owner of the site, Tom Maguire, also links to many other sites that have covered this fiasco in detail.
Bottom line - it is a sad day for the American judicial system.
Posted by: Specter at March 06, 2007 09:29 PM (ybfXM)
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You're dropping the lede. It's not the case... it's what the case represents and covers up.
Go back to Wilson's 1999 trip and see all the countries he said were trading uranium (if you have time, check out his export/investment company there), then see who he worked with, how many of those were on the Kerry campaign and donors (including Priest's hubby, another huge story), and McCarthy (and her hubby as well, huge story), who got her her job, the list of those who covered Africa along with her, which docs disappeared a la Sandy and who authored some of them... and believe it or not, Rockefeller's name comes up a lot as well. Oh and that little Able Danger thing.
Then you can view EPIC, VIPS conferences from before this came up... and you will see how huge this is.
This was/is a coup. No black helicopters or tinfoil, seriously. I started a graph on this and followed everything along with blogs like Free Republic, Stratasphere, Just One Minute and many others.
I'm shocked that you never looked deeper, you're so thorough.
I totally agree re: Jane Hamster, sheesh.
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February 28, 2007
Editing the Offensive
I must confess that I
simply don't get it (well, except for the
puppet show, which is predictable to a tedious degree).
So what if Arianna Huffington felt compelled to close her comments, and then started deleting (but not fast enough) hate-filled invective left by liberal commenters? I have to do that every time certain liberal sites link to mine.
It kind of comes with the clientele.
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February 16, 2007
I Hate You; Why Don't You Like Me?
For whatever reason, Salon.com picked up Amanda Marcotte's latest
blameshifting attempt at dodging responsibility for her long track record of anti-Christian bigotry.
Marcotte is as tedious, suspicious, angrily self-righteous, and blissfully unaware of her own culpability as we've come to expect. Following her same tired script, she blames the "patriarchy" and the "right wing smear machine" for her downfall.
Frankly, I'd skip the article itself and read the other blog reaction to the article. Marcotte can't quite seem to grasp that she came under fire as a result of her own bitter words, taken in context.
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Dan Gerstein's article
(http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0207/2787.html)
over at Politico magazine sums this up perfectly:
"Throughout the course of the controversy, the leftÂ’s bigger digital diatribers never stopped to address the substance of what the Edwards bloggers actually wrote before joining the campaign. Had the bloggers done so, they might have found the postings were widely deemed by Democrats and Republicans alike as bigoted and patently offensive to many Christians, not just devout Catholics or evangelicals.
Nor did they ever stop to think how hollow and hypocritical it sounded for the same people who ravaged George Allen, for his “macaca” moment in last year’s Virginia Senate campaign to cry “free speech” when confronted with a far more nasty, vulgar, and hurtful display of prejudice from two of their own."
Just on their political record alone, the triangulatin' Dems ought to have figured out by now that the nutroots exist to drag the party into oblivion, and as long as candidates keep attributing anything other than sheer horror to the notion that they are being backed by the Kossacks, they can't touch the White House.
Notice that even with his mid 30's approval rating as a lame duck, Bush is still setting both the domestic and foreign policy agendas at every turn and the Dems are reduced to meaningless non-binding non-attacks.
So far all the nutroots have managed to do is destroy the political careers of Howard Dean, Ned Lamont, and now John Edwards. Shouldn't that be enough for both the bloggers AND the Dems to figure out that they are clearly doing something horrendously wrong?
Posted by: Jared at February 17, 2007 10:25 AM (4xUWs)
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Shouldn't that be enough for both the bloggers AND the Dems to figure out that they are clearly doing something horrendously wrong?
You'll rarely go wrong betting on tone-deaf stupidity from democrats.
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February 13, 2007
A Shred More Class
Melissa McEwan of
Shakespeare's Sister has followed Amanda Marcotte in resigning from the
John Edwards Presidential train wreck:
I understand that there will be progressive bloggers who feel I am making the wrong decision, and I offer my sincerest apologies to them. One of the hardest parts of this decision was feeling as though I'm letting down my peers, who have been so supportive.
There will be some who clamor to claim victory for my resignation, but I caution them that in doing so, they are tacitly accepting responsibility for those who have deluged my blog and my inbox with vitriol and veiled threats. It is not right-wing bloggers, nor people like Bill Donohue or Bill O'Reilly, who prompted nor deserve credit for my resignation, no matter how much they want it, but individuals who used public criticisms of me as an excuse to unleash frightening ugliness, the likes of which anyone with a modicum of respect for responsible discourse would denounce without hesitation.
This is a win for no one.
I don't think I've read enough of her blog to know much about McEwan, but I can say this: she exhibited more class and dignity than Marcotte, even as I find it somewhat ironic that someone who calls my fellow Christians "christofascists" accuses others of unleashing "frightening ugliness, the likes of which anyone with a modicum of respect for responsible discourse would denounce without hesitation."
They did denounce the frightening ugliness, Melissa. You should know.
You wrote much of it yourself.
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Listen, you shouldn't lump Melissa in with Amanda Marcotte. I'm a liberal, and even I can't stand Marcotte's venom-filled writings. McEwan is a completely different type of blogger, and it's not really surprising that she exhibited more class than Amanda.
Posted by: dom at February 13, 2007 08:32 PM (xSn34)
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Maybe she should read some of Michelle Malkin's mail.
I hear she gets some orc-level ugliness there.
Posted by: Mikey NTH at February 13, 2007 08:51 PM (HX/8J)
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"she exhibited more class and dignity than Marcotte"
Not hard to do.
Posted by: Jim C. at February 13, 2007 10:04 PM (74BGX)
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McEwan by herself might have made it but after all the attention the Marcotte thing brought in I think it was clear her days were numbered too. I excerpted and linked at Twisted Sister #2 Resigns.
Posted by: Bill Faith at February 13, 2007 10:10 PM (n7SaI)
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I have read many conservative blog sites and have never read crude and ugly stuff as on these liberal sites. Perhaps there are sites I am unaware of, but the ones associated with Michelle Malkin deal with facts and opinions, but not bigoted ugly crude sacreligious language like I have seen on the sites like the girls who just resigned. If anyone conservative posted stuff like that, I would denounce them, too. As would Michelle Malkin.
Posted by: Cindy Anderson at February 13, 2007 10:34 PM (NF0Xt)
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On that last post, I should not speak for Michelle Malkin, but I feel safe in predicting that she would probably denounce a conservative blogger that posted ugly stuff like the two Edward bloggers who resigned.
Posted by: Cindy Anderson at February 13, 2007 10:40 PM (NF0Xt)
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Oddly enough, there is not the tiniest bit of opprobrium directed toward the Jew-hating rape apologist Bill Donohue. When is anyone on the right going to have the decency and integrity to denounce and ostracize him? Are you going to cut him loose, or is there no principle you are unwilling to jettison in the pursuit of partisan gain?
Posted by: Tom Hilton at February 13, 2007 11:39 PM (3wl8w)
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Tom, your ignorance, and basic laziness is not my problem.
Earlier today
I said:
Marcotte attempts to shift the blame to Bill Donohue, a bigot in his own right (his views on Judaism turn the stomach), but the reality is that Marcotte and Donohue are flip sides of the same vile coin.
I dedicated a post to Donohue alone, which
stated in part:
Considering the apparent shall we say, shared appreciation of the Jewish faith that Donahue and [former Klansman David] Duke seem to have in common, I think he better find a less self-immolating comparison.
Here I simply called Donohue a "right-wing bigot."
Here I called him and the Catholic League he represents "bomb-throwers."
If you're going to make stupid comments, don't drop them in the comments section of the very blog that proves you conclusively wrong.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at February 13, 2007 11:55 PM (HcgFD)
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Okay, fair enough; all I caught was this post, not the preceeding one. I stand corrected. Even though you buy into the completely dishonest pseudo-outrage of vermin like Donohue, good for you for denouncing Donohue himself.
Posted by: Tom Hilton at February 14, 2007 12:02 AM (3wl8w)
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Tom said " are you going to cut him (Bill Donahue - is that Phil's brother?)loose, or is there no principle you are unwilling to jettison in the persuit of partisan gain? _ (that's a double negative but never mind - I get your point)
I can't speak for everyone on the right but I never heard of Phil Donahue's brother until this Amanda thing came up. Do we have a club with membership cards and a rollcall for the rightwing? If so nobody sent me the list.
Don't have a card either.
I can't possibly denounce every self avowed member of the Republican party for every comment they have made. I won't apologize for them either. I will say I am not in favor of demonizing anybody for their religion, including muslims. The way I figure it even if Islam killed a hundred thousand a year every year since Mohammad, the pile still wouldn't stack up to the millions killed by athiesm.
SO God bless and I hope if you are a Muslim you survive until after the reformation.
Posted by: papertiger at February 14, 2007 12:02 AM (jnEb9)
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"I don't think I've read enough of her blog to know much about McEwan, but I can say this: she exhibited more class and dignity than Marcotte, even as I find it somewhat ironic that someone who calls my fellow Christians "christofascists" accuses others of unleashing "frightening ugliness, the likes of which anyone with a modicum of respect for responsible discourse would denounce without hesitation." "
Does the term "christo-fascists" bother you because you identify yourself with Christianity, since you are Christian and many of your friends are Christians? Or does the term bother you because, in and of itself it is "frighteningly ugly"?
Because with all due respect, Bob, it just rings a little bit hollow, when people who don't hesitate to insult the religious faith of two billion Muslims with the term "Islamofascists" get so incredibly bent out of shape when the shoe is on the other foot.
Posted by: Kathy at February 14, 2007 12:31 AM (wWPI1)
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"On that last post, I should not speak for Michelle Malkin, but I feel safe in predicting that she would probably denounce a conservative blogger that posted ugly stuff like the two Edward bloggers who resigned."
You mean like
Allahpundit who works for her?
You don't get around much do you Cindy?
Posted by: tbogg at February 14, 2007 01:02 AM (d7Sqx)
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The term "Islamo-fascists" refers to a subset of Muslims who wish to reestablish the Caliphate by force and who wish to impose Sharia law on everyone. As used by Marcotte, et al, the term "Christo-fascists" generally referred to Christians in general. If Marcotte said that there were some Christians who acted like fascists, that would be different -- extreme, but different. But, if you read the body of her work, she just hates Christians with a deep and abiding passion. Hate, hate, hate.
Cheap trick linking to your own bizarre site under the Allahpundit name. But, the ends justify the means for the Left. Anything is acceptable to advance the agenda.
Posted by: Watergate at February 14, 2007 01:19 AM (BC1Xw)
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I only linked to my blog (not like I want your type to infest it) because CY's spam filter wouldn't let me link to Allah's archives. Having said that, you quite nimbly avoided what Allahpundit had to say about Catholics. Therefore I will assume that you agree with him.
And I liked you parsing of "Islamo-fascists" being a subset, while "Christo-fascists" is the whole enchilada, so to speak. Maybe when Jesus doesn't talk to you tonight, you'll have that to keep you warm.
Posted by: tbogg at February 14, 2007 01:37 AM (d7Sqx)
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Therefore I will assume that you agree with him.
Snark really is lost on you people isn't it? If that's the best example you have, its way WAY lame dood.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 14, 2007 01:56 AM (HDpFt)
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Sorry, tbogg, that dog won't hunt.
Let's have a tale of the tape, shall we?
Allah: posted snarky, foul-mouthed essays on a blog that was entirely satirical
Amanda: posted snarky, foul-mouthed essays on a blog which had (evidently) both satirical and non-satirical elements, within which it was difficult to tell the difference (if there even was one)
Allah: abandoned said website for months before resurfacing with a
completely nonsatirical (though occasionally snarky) blog, then leaving that blog to co-host a website with
another blogger
Amanda: abandoned said website immediately to take a job blogging for someone who was campaigning to be the
President of the United States
Allah: within the last, oh, couple of months or so, has not written anything blatantly inflammatory or hateful (as evidenced by the fact that someone had to dig back nearly 3½ years to find anything, and that was weak)
Amanda: has routinely written posts which are blatantly inflammatory and hateful, up until and following the time when she was employed by a Presidential aspirant.
Sorry, tbogg. This runs a little deeper than your silly little claims of a double standard. When you guys get standards in the first place, we can talk about double standards.
Posted by: marchand chronicles at February 14, 2007 02:43 AM (/l8fq)
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'Kay, the comment garbled up my post.
Allah's old site, which I attempted to link to, is linkmecca.blogspot.com.
Posted by: mc at February 14, 2007 02:49 AM (/l8fq)
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Right. I'm sure Edwards would have been very comfortable introducing Amanda to say...the queen of England.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 14, 2007 06:22 AM (HDpFt)
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Thanks for reminding me, tbogg, that the term "independent thought" is still non-existent on the left. My goodness, all you people think exactly alike and take the same marching orders. Izzat why you need the gov't for your every whim?
Posted by: RW at February 14, 2007 07:04 AM (vnNjd)
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It is untrue that Shakespeare's Sister ever used the term "Christofascist" to refer to Christians in general. People may not like the term regardless. Fine. But it was never applied to all Christians. If people would actually read her blog, rather than just assume that whatever was written about her is true, they might actually know this.
Posted by: LS at February 14, 2007 08:05 AM (n4O5C)
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LS,
Is that similar to someone saying "I didn't mean that n*$$er referred to
all blacks"? Mind you (and I speak as a Christian) that I'm not trying to innoculate fundamentalists from criticism, especially those who seek to foment a burgeoning theocracy (all 12 of them, or as Andrew Sullivan would say "all 30 million of them"), just pointing out that the phrase is sorta, kinda, all-encompassing on the surface. However, if there's a legitimate definition, that would make things a lot clearer.
Kinda like how the left accepts that Limbaugh's "femanazi" only refers to the ultra-feminist leadership & not a good chunk of the female population as a whole,
right?
Posted by: RW at February 14, 2007 08:31 AM (nr2qO)
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McEwan's blog, Shakespeare's Sister, is pretty much your standard mediocre leftygrrl snark fare, which is to say it's still head and shoulders above Marcotte's drivel. You're not missing anything.
Having said that, Edwards blew this event in every conceivable way. He should never have hired either of them, even as a "technical advisor" (as McEwan says she was) every word she's ever posted on her blog becomes the official Edwards Campaign Platform by simple implication.
Edwards, taking the standard Democrat triangulation way out so he could have his bloggers and his credibility at the same time, now is left with nothing. Every single step of his involvement with this has been marred by taking the worst possible choice, then double backing on it, then double backing on it again.
The last week or so has proved that Edwards is nothing more than a shifty Clintonian trial lawyer that lacks any and all charisma and political savvy.
He's done.
Posted by: Jared at February 14, 2007 10:34 AM (1Hmzb)
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"Allah: abandoned said website for months before resurfacing with a completely nonsatirical (though occasionally snarky) blog, then leaving that blog to co-host a website with another blogger"
Claiming satire: the last refuge of the busted.
Hey look, if Malkin wants to employ someone who thinks that Catholics are CHUD's I have no problem with that and it in no way influences my opinion of her.
I'm fair that way.
Posted by: tbogg at February 14, 2007 11:37 AM (d7Sqx)
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That drivle works only amongst the idiotic kossack-phere, tbogg. Granted, it goes over like buttah there (they're lemmings, so it goes to reason) but nowhere else.
No.
Where.
Else.
You're taking pisses into a hurricane. Find a new rap, preferrably an original one.
Posted by: RW at February 14, 2007 12:16 PM (vnNjd)
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