October 25, 2005
One More Stop to Make
Good luck and Godspeed on your final journey, Mrs. Parks.
Rosa Parks, American Hero, dead at 92.
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Thank god for the liberals in the Congress and Supreme Court for ending that despicable system. Otherwise, Ms. Parks would probably still be in jail. Remember: it was conservatives who opposed civil rights. Sure would be nice to hear you all admit how wrong you were.
Posted by: joe at October 25, 2005 10:27 AM (HDulo)
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Ummm, Joe - Republicans passed the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments, which were opposed by the Democrats. The first black men elected to the congress and the senate were on a Republican ticket. The civil rights act of 1866 was passed by - you guessed it - Republicans, as were the subsequent 1870, 71 and 75 acts when Democrats kept going around the rules. But thats not what you were talking about, right?
The Civil Rights Act of 1964 - thats what you meant, I'm sure, since it was around the time of Parks. The act was almost 10 years after Parks famed protest on the bus, but better late than never. Yes, I'm sure I was very wrong to support that act 19 years before my birth, but hey - what can a single-cell organism do? In both the House and Senate, Democrats voted in the 60th percentiles to pass the act, while Republicans voted in the 80th percentile. So, let me get this straight - who opposed civil rights?
It would be nice to hear Democrats come out and say "We now garner the most black votes because of FDR's work projects and entitlement programs, which bribed the black community in a time when the president was unwilling to move forward on civil rights."
Posted by: Josh at October 25, 2005 02:05 PM (S6Wcf)
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Nice misdirection, Joe.
Keep in mind that it was Democrats and Dixiecrats (every single one a Democrat, though Helms and Thurmond later become Republicans) that tried to block civil rights legislation, while Republicans forced it through.
But that's okay, Joe. Liberal Democrats had their revenge with LBJ's Great Society, almost utterly destroying the black family unit.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at October 25, 2005 02:48 PM (g5Nba)
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Notice I said "conservatives"? Not Republicans? Sort of makes you look evasive huh? I understand - uncomfortable truths and all. And I was talking about the 1957 bill, and "you conservatives" generically. We're still waiting for that apology, btw.
Posted by: joe at October 25, 2005 03:01 PM (HDulo)
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I can't say much about what happened when my father was in junior high, nor will I apologize for something that occurred decades before my birth. I will not apologize for something I didn't do.
But what is your excuse for pushing
today for the same kind of social programs that destroyed the black middle class and left so many mired in poverty? The Liberal social policies pursued for the past four decades up to this very second have done far more to destroy black American families than anything Bull Conner could have ever dreamed of.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at October 25, 2005 03:45 PM (g5Nba)
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How about saying, "Conservatives were wrong to have opposed civil rights laws"? Especially since you want me to do something similar in regard to liberals and public assistance programs.
Lyndon Johnson said something about "You don't take a man who has just shed his chains and put him in a race and expect him to compete with all the other runners." So why should 400 years of being treated like dirt not take a few decades to be erased? Blaming government programs for the fact that blacks aren't equal yet is just a convenient excuse.
Just how well those programs work may be debateable. But saying a bunch of well-meaning people trying to conoct ways to help are worse than Bull Connor, who probably wanted blacks lynched, is just despicable. It is the sort of comment that just shows how reprehensibily clueless conservatives are on racial issues. I wonder where you would have stood in the 1950s. And that Bull Connor comment IS something you could apologize for.
Posted by: joe at October 25, 2005 04:52 PM (HDulo)
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Just how well those programs work may be debateable. But saying a bunch of well-meaning people trying to conoct ways to help are worse than Bull Connor, who probably wanted blacks lynched, is just despicable.
Ever heard the phrase, "the road to Hell is paved with good intentions"? You created for blacks a living hell, and then try to excuse yourself for your near genocidal incompetence.
Pathetic.
Hundreds of societies far older and more entrenched have changed far more radically in far shorter periods of time than has black America. Perhaps if liberals and faux race-baiting "leaders" like Al Sharpton would get out of the wya, black Americans would quit thinking of themselves as victims and start appliying their God-given talents.
You ascribe to Connor lynching while admitting you cannot prove your charge, and you think someone owes
you an apology?
The phrase, "When hell freezes over" comes to mind.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at October 25, 2005 05:29 PM (0fZB6)
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You're DEFENDING Bull Connor's racial views??! You are truly off the deep-end.
And handing someone food stamps is pretty f'ing far from "genocide." Hyperbole much?
Instead of saying people are playing "victim", maybe you should buy a clue. Just because life is dandy for you and your white male friends are doing fine doesn't mean it is for everyone.
You are a dangerously insensitive person, as well as someone who has not a clue about reality. The phrase "let them eat cake" comes to mind with you.
And yes, letting a facist like Bull Connor off the hook like that is worthy of an apology. Unless you think siccing dogs on people is the American way. You probably do.
Posted by: joe at October 25, 2005 05:57 PM (HDulo)
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Joe, instead of trying to divert attention away from the facts that well-intentioned, yet seriously misguided, people have crippled the ability of a race to think and act for themselves, how about you address the issue. Give some examples of how food stamps and welfare don't lead to an entitlement complex. Defend your position that some blacks don't jump at the chance to play the victim, and that leaders like Sharpton don't contribute to that. Can you do that without resorting to an ad hominem attacks in 9 of 11 sentences you wrote in the previous rebuke?
Posted by: Josh at October 25, 2005 06:11 PM (S6Wcf)
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You say stop diverting attention, yet you continue to do it (my original post was about conservatives having a shameful history in respect to Rosa Parks, and you are still saying, 'Well, how about now...").
And you ask me to admit a little, but you are so incapable of making any concession to reason that you wrote that ridiculous defense of Bull Connor against my supposed "slander." If you are so unwilling to engage in reasonable debate, why should anyone take you seriously? (By the way, that you would even have the stomach to have written that is deeply disturbing. You've got problems, serious problems.)
And as for facts, how about those "hundreds of societies" that have changed "far more radically" in "far shorter" time? If there's hundreds, how about naming, oh, say, 20 or 30?
Don't forget, blacks are the only ethnic group in America subjected to legal bondage and segregation, something that as late as the early 1970s, the President was still dragging his feet about fixing (I refer to Nixon telling people to kill desegregation enforcements efforts on his WH tapes.)
Again, your blindness to reality, and your simplistic retreat into self-help mumbo-jumbo (like some late night tv ad), just show why conservatives are so bad at race relations.
Posted by: joe at October 25, 2005 06:29 PM (HDulo)
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You're having problems recognizing that whether you intended it or not, your kind destroyed generations of black families, something that racists like Bull Connor never dreamed of. You still hold that you didn't slander Connor, even when the burden of proof is upon you to prove a charge you made. Of crouse, accusation, not proof is all it takes onteh left, isn't it? Sadly, about the only thing you are capable of is name calling, not reasoning.
Your idea of "reasonable debate" is having me apologize for something I didn't do. Sorry, that dog won't hunt. You are the apologist of failed ideologies, not I.
Want 20 or 30 societies that have changed far more radically in a far shorter period of time? In the interest of saving time, can I simply offer up Eastern Europe in the 1990s? Germany in 1945, and again in 1989? Japan at the end of of World War 2? All of known Europe after the Black Death, or societies in the Americas and Far East after encountering Europeans in trade? Societies often change radically, not incrementally.
Of course, understanding history isn't your strong point, is it?
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at October 25, 2005 07:07 PM (0fZB6)
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Joe has been tossed; his last post deleted. One
ad hominem too many...
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at October 25, 2005 08:12 PM (0fZB6)
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Jeez, some people just get all worked up.
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October 24, 2005
Learning From The Master
Via
Yahoo!
Havana, Cuba, October 24, 2005 in the wake of Hurricane Wilma
Fidel Castro proves that he, too, can learn something from New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin.
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Where's the bearded "Maximum Leader" when his people need him?
Posted by: Tom T at October 25, 2005 06:25 AM (ywZa8)
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he's just trying to show people that buses unlike old cars do not float, otherwise they would all disappear until found by the USCG trying to reach the US.
Posted by: cohetedude at October 26, 2005 10:26 PM (RM4O3)
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Are you sure that's a Cuban photo? The word Ecoliers looks to me like a Louisiana flourish.
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Landfall
Folks, Hurricane Wilma is makinging
landfall as a 125 MPH Category 3 major hurricane near Marco Island, Florida. It is stronger than almost anyone predicted.
Please say a prayer for all the people too stupid or arrogant to get out of the way, of which there were many, (including members of my family in West Palm Beach).
After Rita and Katrina, you'd think people would learn.
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October 23, 2005
Repost: Go To Hell, Cindy Sheehan
[The American military is on the eve of losing its 2,000th soldier in combat in Iraq after well over two years in action. In that time, 26 million Iraqi people have been given a say in the future of their country, and two rounds of national voting have proven that democracy has a chance in a part of the world that detractors said it would never take root.
In this environment, a vengful, spiteful woman would still sacrifice it all -- 26 million Iraqi lives, and the sacrifice of 2,000 American soldiers-- in hopes of some sort of twisted revenge against the one man she holds responsible for her son's death. For one man, she would sacrifice nations. Her name is Cindy Sheehan.
This post was originally released August 9, 2005.]
Let me make this perfectly clear: I loath Cindy Sheehan.
I despise everything she stands for, and love the ideals she stands against. I hate how she dishonors her brave son's memory. I cringe when she utters stupid talking points—“why did the president kill my son?”—and I cannot stand the fact that she egotistically thinks she is more important than the tens of millions of people she would undermine in her quest for vengeance. Clearly, her arrogance knows no limits.
The most important mother in the world.
Cindy Sheehan thinks she is the most important mother in the world.
She is holding a vigil to speak to the president—again—even though she has made it abundantly clear in her comments to the news media that she has nothing new to offer other than clichés. She wants the troops to pull out of Iraq now, no matter the future costs or the wasted sacrifices. She wants Bush to personally account for her son's death. She wants Bush to personally tell her why her son died. She, she, she. Well guess what Cindy?
You are not the only mother who has sent a son off to war. You are one mother of the more than 1,800 troops who died serving their country in a military they volunteered to join, knowing that they could be sent off to war. There are thousands of other mothers who have had their sons and daughters wounded in combat. There are mothers for each and every one of the hundreds of thousands of soldiers, from more than a dozen nations, that have served in Iraq in an effort to bring democracy and hope to that region.
Nor are you more important than the mothers of the 25 million Iraqis that your son Casey was trying to bring freedom. You didn't understand his courage or commitment, and you can't understand why someone who lay down their life for a stranger. That is your problem Cindy Sheehan, and you dishonor your own son's memory every time you open your mouth to fight against everything he gave his life for.
Nor are you more important, Cindy Sheehan than the mothers of the tens of millions in Afghanistan, Lebanon, and other nations tasting freedom for the first time because of brave men like your late son.
Despite what you think, Cindy Sheehan, you are not more important than any of these millions of other mothers, though you would make all their sacrifices in vain to bring down a President.
Vengeance, not Justice. Hatred, not Hope.
Your son died trying to bring freedom to an oppressed people. I can think of no more noble sacrifice. But you, Cindy Sheehan, you want revenge for your heartache, and you don't care who gets hurt in the process.
That is why you, Cindy Sheehan, can go to hell.
You decided, in a mind warped by your association with head cases like Code Pink and Veterans for Peace, that George W. Bush made your son patriotic and gave him the heart to serve his country, and that George W. Bush made him volunteer for military service, and that George W. Bush forced him to want to make the military his career, and it was George W. Bush that made him re-enlist. And of course, George W. Bush pulled the trigger on the RPG in the Sadr City slum that took his life.
Cindy Sheehan doesn't give a damn about the millions of Iraqis her son was trying to bring freedom. Cindy Sheehan doesn't give a damn about the hundreds of thousands of soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines that have rotated in and out of Iraq in that same quest. Cindy Sheehan doesn't give a damn if Iraqis are ruled by themselves or if they are tortured by tyrants. She is petty. She is vengeful. She wants revenge, and she doesn't care who gets hurt or who dies in the process.
I am ashamed for Casey Sheehan. He understood that there are things in this world worth giving up your life to create, and he made that sacrifice. His mother Cindy, full of hate, seeks only seeks to destroy.
I can understand her grief, but I cannot forgive the fact that she is willing to threaten the lives of others and give our enemies hope to satisfy her need for revenge.
A terrorist RPG killed the body of Casey Sheehan. It took his mother to try to kill his legacy.
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If I edited your post to make it in line with my feelings... nothing would be changed. Your post perfectly describes all my feelings about this horrible, irrational, selfish woman.
On a side note, I'm glad she started saying all those crazy things, or else the MSM would still be following her around and putting her on the news every night.
Posted by: Kevin at October 24, 2005 04:18 AM (24kgX)
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The Iraqis want democracy, let them fight for it themselves like everybody else. By the way, thanks for supporting the Soviets in WW2. I guess democracy wasn't so important to you back then.
Toute nation a le gouvernement qu'elle mérite.
- Joseph de Maistre
Posted by: Freedom at October 24, 2005 05:31 AM (lGolT)
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Casey Sheehan's mother doesn't give a damn about him either. He stood, and died, for everything she opposes; her debasement and deceit is evinced in the very act of holding him up as HER sacrifice, supposedly imposed on her by the President.
Loathing is too mild a term for the repulsion I feel toward her.
Posted by: Cindi at October 24, 2005 09:11 AM (/sHpt)
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As Tammy Bruce would say...
Cindy Sheehan is in the depths of malignant narcissism. She does not want to move to the stage of reintegrating into society; she only wants to harm society as she believes she herself has been harmed.
The woman is a waste of skin and mentally sick. The woman would make a great nazi (both are leftist).
Posted by: William at October 24, 2005 09:20 AM (yheG2)
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Just hazarding a guess, but maybe Casey enlisted and re-enlisted in part to get away from his lunatic mother, in addition to being a patriot.
Posted by: SicSemperTyrannus at October 24, 2005 10:42 AM (qmJpf)
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SicSemper: I would too.
Posted by: Abbie at October 24, 2005 12:37 PM (GYmoM)
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Try to download and watch this documentry. It is very interresting it is called 'The Power Of Nightmares'by BBC
http://ia300024.us.archive.org/1/items/ThePowerOfNightmares/
Posted by: Tony at October 24, 2005 02:21 PM (AhA/U)
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There's nothin' quite like the family values crowd wishing a woman to hell.
I love the smell of fresh indictments in the morning.
-D
Posted by: Denise at October 24, 2005 03:07 PM (7eK/j)
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Sir you have put into words exactly how I feel about this communist 'liberal' traitor...as a vet with 3 honorable discharges and years of service and killed communists in many places, seems to me it should start here too....a liberal is a closet communist...
Thank you
Posted by: BlackWatch at October 24, 2005 06:49 PM (NnrlE)
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To freedom and denise...."what a bunch of maroons"
Bugs Bunny
Posted by: Jerry at October 24, 2005 08:45 PM (uP3Vk)
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Unfortunately the 2000th soldier to die in Iraq misses the fact that the military refuses to list the almost 8000 soldiers who died of wounds suffered in Iraq but died out of the country.
Still more unfortunate is the need to loath anyone in regards to Iraq. As senior officials continue to make clear, the administration the war was a mistake on many levels. Because we lost young people for nothing; intelligence was bent for political purposes; Iraq totters into civil war; and would be terrorists blossom in the chaos. Meanwhile here at home we turn on each other (even a mother who, regardless of her politics, is stricken with grief)and become less like a proud moral nation and more like a bickering 6th grade class.
Posted by: Paul at October 24, 2005 10:57 PM (jtuFd)
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Got any credible sources for that claim of 8,000 troops who died out of country...the
Lancet perhaps? Or was it from your friends in Code Pink outside of Walter Reed calling our troops baby killers and murderers?
It seems like a story that big would have been picked up by the NY
Times or similar oganizations in a heartbeat, if they were real.
We lost young people for "nothing?"
The vast majority of 25 million Iraqis who are no longer under the thumb of Saddam
might just disagree.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at October 24, 2005 11:14 PM (0fZB6)
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Thank you, Confederate Yankee, for answering that last post by Paul the leftist, as well as for your entire column. You are a great American. Anyone that thinks that any one of our great military that gave his/her life for Operation Iraqi Freedom was a waste has a twisted world view. These leftist/socialist/communists are pathetic. They cry out about Hitler, oppression, civil rights violated, etc. when it comes to their own country but when some other dictator, whom they somehow praise and idolize (e.g.: Castro, Saddam, Chavez, Mandela), does all of the above and more, they turn their heads. Starve their own people, no complaint. America comes to help and 18 Marines get slaughtered, no problem. Hypocrisy at its best. They view things through their prism where if their hero Bill Clinton was doing the bomb dropping at 30,000 feet (Kosovo), they have no problem. Oh, the hypocrisy...
Posted by: DJ at October 24, 2005 11:32 PM (Xd0mm)
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I, on the other hand, loathe her. But not "in regards to Iraq". I loathe her because she gives comfort to our enemies worldwide, demoralizes our brave soldiers, and weakens American resolve at a time when unity is most important.
I also think her actions increase terrorist activity, causing additional deaths and casualties, but I have no proof.
Posted by: Kevin at October 25, 2005 08:18 AM (24kgX)
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Paul, Your comment about of soldiers dying in the states instead of in-country is a load of manure. Specifically, the Sgt. who died & is counted as #2000 died in the states from wounds rec'd in-country about 2 weeks previous.
How does that square with your preconceived notions?
I've got my mind made up, don't confuse me with the facts????
Posted by: Vet's Grateful Son at October 26, 2005 06:06 PM (o+3dL)
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Confederate Yankee Blog Drive (Day 5) The Delay Factor
As you know, we're trying to raise funds so that we can replace an aging Dimension L733R computer that is on it's last legs. I want to thank each and every one of you who has donated to the Confederate Yankee Blog Drive so far.
Unfortunately, I'd like to do what us conservatives are always accused of doing anyway: I'd like to misappropriate these funds.
WTF?
Yes, "where are those funds?" No, not campaign contributions, but something far more insidious. I hope Ronnie Earle doesn't find out.
After church this morning, my wife and I were discussing a mission she volunteers for called the Hope Chest (part of my volunteering is working on its web site, which isn't ready yet). Think of Hope Chest kind of like a Goodwill, before Goodwill had buildings and was operating out of private homes and garages, and you won't be far off.
Anyhow, were trying to do some fundraising for the Hope Chest for the holiday season, and we're waiting on our appropriations committee to get funds for supplies we need for the drive. Well, someone in the process is dragging their feed and we might not get funded in time, so I'd like to take the money you guys have graciously donated for a replacement PC and use it for the Hope Chest. Yes, I'm evil like that.
I will get reimbursed by the church, and I'll put that money directly back into the Confederate Yankee Blog Drive computer fund in a few weeks.
If anyone who has donated has a problem with this please let me know.
Thanks for every dime. It will get spend on a PC, jut not as quickly as I thought.
Thanks for understanding.
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I don't recall putting any restrictions on my meager donation, that you wish to use the funds to help a worthy cause, is none of my business, but if it helps you have my permission.
So if by some odd chance you do NOT get reimbursed, s'OK.
Posted by: Dan Kauffman at October 23, 2005 02:44 PM (hxRR8)
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Just an fyi, (this is not a spam), Fry's has (had) an incredible PC deal, a Linux box w Athlon 2400 for $149 + s&h. I ordered 3 for nephew/nieces. Buy whatever you like, of course. Best N
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October 22, 2005
End the Quag-Miers
For several weeks I've
tried to withhold judgment of President Bush's nominee for the Supreme Court, Harriet Miers. Even at the
beginning of this debacle I never held the illusion that she was the most qualified of candidates, but the question for me was, would she be qualified
enough.
I have been firmly underwhelmed by the arguments of Will and Krauthammer and other pundits, just as I've annoyed by the tone deaf defenses of Miers by the administration.
I wanted to hear from the nominee herself before I offered my opinion of her suitability for the Supreme Court.
Now I have.
I've had several days to digest her 57 pages of answers to Senate Judiciary Committee, and time to read commentaries from other pundits that I respect, and I have now formed an opinion that I think I can be comfortable with.
I oppose the Miers nomination.
I do not oppose her for her convictions; I oppose her because she appears to have none.
I do not oppose Harriet Miers for having the wrong academic pedigree; I oppose her for not being able to write a cogent, or even a comprehensible, opinion.
I am sure that Harriet Miers is wonderful human being and a good friend, but she does not belong on the Supreme Court of the United States.
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After much consideration and thought on my own part, I quite agree. Miers is not a fit choice.
Miers thinks like a trial attorney: she represents those who are willing or able to pay for her firm's services, regardless of the potentially far-reaching implications of her actions. As such, she has spent all of her career sticking her finger in the air and going the way the money blows.
Bush makes the fatal mistake of believing that because she has been a loyal advocate for him over the years, she will be a good advocate for his political philosophy when he is not paying the bill.
She will not. She will be the next Souter, except far more dangerous. Inside the hidden confines of the Supreme Court, she will be loud, not quiet and unassuming; out of vain stubborness, she will rebel against suggestion from conservative bedrocks like Scalia and Thomas; she will be persuasive and bullying, like Earl Warren; and in her "come what may" philosophy, she may be the worst nightmare appointed by a Republican since Warren.
Time to stick a fork in this one. She's done.
Posted by: Atticus_NC at October 23, 2005 09:38 AM (3lxJi)
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Hey, It's Only Genocide...
After reading
this post at Michelle Malkin's site, I felt a bit embarrassed that a story like this happened on my turf, and I completely missed it. I shouldn't have felt bad, because our local North Carolina media was doing all it could to
ignore the story of a former North Carolina State visiting professor who called for nothing less than the genocide of every last white person on the planet.
Dr. Kamau Kambon
The Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill area, collectively known as the Triangle, has a handful of major regional media. Those I frequent are:
There is also
NBC 17 television news, which I don't watch ( I have no bias agains it, but I can only watch so many local news programs).
As expected, the area also has a slew of smaller media including alternative and college newspapers, the local NPR affiliate, and even a rumored Air America outlet, though I don't know of anyone that has actually heard it. Collectively, they have little overall community impact.
Of the regional media I monitor --The News and Observer, WRAL-TV, WTVD-TV, and WPTF, only the Bill Lumay show on WPTF talk radio discussed the story before Malkin's Friday column, with a segment on Thursday afternoon.
Using Malkin's post as a template (but not using her as a direct source to keep from offending tender liberal sensitivities), I alerted the N&O, WRAL, WTVD, and WPTF radio of the story via email.
I'd missed WPTF talk radio earlier in the week, but the host himself, Bill Lumay sent back an email confirming they'd discussed the issue on Thursday afternoon.
The News & Observer, ran a story today, and actually credited bloggers with fanning the flames.
To date neither of the regional television news stations, WPTF-TV (Durham) or WRAL-TV (Raleigh), have deemed to give this story any notice at all.
Nationally, on the Washington Times has given this story mention in an editorial today.
In North Carolina, the only other mention of Kamau Kambon was in passing in the Wilmington Journal, "Part of the BlackPressUSA Network," which was happy to mention that:
Dr. Kamau Kambon, co-director of the Bennu Cultural Center and Blacknificent Books and More in Raleigh, spoke at a pre-Millions More Movement conference at Howard University on developing new black media for effective activism, that was carried by C-SPAN last Friday.
Dr. Kambon said the black community must develop new systems of ensuring not only bits [sic] survival, but liberation, as it faces the challenges ahead.
Apparently the reporter, Cash Michaels, didn't think that the "exterminate white people" portion of Kamon's C-SPAN commentary was worth mentioning, unless that is what he meant with his comment about how the black community could ensure it's survival.
Apparently in this day and age, it is fine to be a genocidal racist psychopath, just as long as you happen to have the right skin color and ideology.
Note: Jeff Goldstein at Protein Wisdom interviewed Kamon yesterday.
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I'm embarrassed. I got my BSs from NCSU. I liked their humanities college, because most of the profs I met from there were very good teachers and taught interesting stuff, like the history of science or Chaucer. I was happy that they didn't have so many of the bullshit profs you found at Duke or Chapel Hill.
Well, I guess I'm wrong.
Posted by: meep at October 23, 2005 05:55 AM (9Bj9e)
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C.Y., does anyone know anything about this nutty professor's past? Was his given name at birth Ward Churchill, and he changed it to be Afro-centric? I'm sure any trip he made to Africa was funded by the same guilt-ridden white folks that he wants to exterminate!
Posted by: Tom T at October 23, 2005 08:00 AM (ywZa8)
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Some one should ask this idiot whohas been busily exterminating African Animists in Sudan?
I think they are mostly Arabic Muslims with Chinese funding?
Posted by: Dan Kauffman at October 23, 2005 08:32 AM (ZgJa9)
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After reading Jeff GoldsteinÂ’s interview, and seeing the lack of coverage that this "professor" got in the national and local press, it just convinced me even more that the LLL doesn't have the guts to go after people with the viewpoint that this individual has. It read like the Communist/Black Panther Party propoganda from the 60's...
Memo to the LLL - if this guy had his way, you wopuld be in the business end of a gun or knife, since the majority of you are "Whitey", and your keeping him down....
Posted by: CK at October 23, 2005 11:31 AM (/+Dep)
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A white man says that aborting black babies would reduce the crime rate- everyone takes notice and it makes national headlines, turn the tables let a black man make referance to "exterminat[ing] white people" and... nothing. Barely even a blink over it.
By the way, aborting every child of ANY RACE would result in a lower crime rate, due to a reduction in overall population. It's basic math.
Posted by: L. at October 23, 2005 02:35 PM (TJAm5)
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The URL gets blocked here but put this in google
The Forgotten Holocaust: The Eastern Slave Trade
Gives a different slant on the African Slave Trade.
You might have to look at the cache it seems to have gone over its bandwidth
Posted by: Dan Kauffman at October 23, 2005 05:58 PM (hxRR8)
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Actually L, the white man question, Bill Bennett, was specifically speaking out against aborting black babies, but people chose to take his comments out of context and twist them in a truly evil way.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at October 23, 2005 08:40 PM (0fZB6)
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Still nothing much on this.
Yet, two female 13 year old blond, blue eyed nazi entertainers from Bakersfield are all the rage in the media.
Go figure.
Posted by: FreakyBoy at October 24, 2005 10:11 AM (NW/eu)
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Kambon: white people want to kill us!
he's telling the truth. white's are the spawn of satan.
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dR. kAMBON SHOWS ANOTHER EXERCISE IN THE HYPOCRITICAL SLANT NEWS MEDIA TAKES ON THE ISSUE OF RACISM.............BILL BENNETT USES AN EXTRAORDINARY ANALOGY AND ITS RACISM, KAMBON PROMOTES THE GENOCIDE OF WHITE PEOPLE AND WHO CARES
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People, use some "common sense".
Bill Bennet has served in two Presidential Administrations. He is a nationally known political analyst who regularly appears on every major news program. He has penned countless op-ed pieces run in major newpapers around the nation.
So, of course, any comment he makes is going to get more attention than some no-name former professor at a small(er) regional college.
Dr. Kambon is an idiot. Add to that, a buffon, just look at the name of his bookstore - "BlackNificent Books". Even worse, he is an idiot racist.
But, his influence and potential effect is extremely limited in it's scope. He's not even on the staff of any university at this time. Expecting national news to climb all over itself about anything he said is naive.
Try to compare apples and apples. So, if you want to compare Bill Bennett's situation to someone else, at least find a person of equal stature and visibility.
BTW, I'm black and find Kambon's statements disgusting, embarrassing, destructive, and ultimately harmful to everyone. Luckily, morons like this are given public exposure every once in a while so they can be ridiculed back under the rock that they came from.
I hope Kambon's fat mouth makes it hard for him to get hired at any University ever again. Perhaps, Bloggers and their fans can help make that possible.
Posted by: Common Sense at October 27, 2005 07:15 PM (disKE)
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BTW, Bill Bennett should have known to clarify his off-the-cuff statement. He's been in the public eye far too long to not know that.
If he had simply paused and taken just a moment longer to put his point in greater context, a lot of the trouble could have been avoided.
Or, even better, if he had chosen a more effective analogy to make his point with, it all could have been avoided.
And, no, I don't think what he said was racist.
Posted by: Common Sense at October 27, 2005 08:19 PM (disKE)
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thx Common Sense, even though the Piled High and Deep KK loser's remarks undermine MLK and other great Americans life's-work, they did cut deep to many of us white, mainstream, middle class folks that embrace our diversity as a strength. While in the Marines my troops were "purple". They acted it too. Thank God our country is NOT imbred like (to name a few I have LIVED in) Ukraine, Latvia, Kuwait, and Thailand. If some of you bloggers don't understand this comment just be glad you are Americans...and say "hello" every chance you get to your purple countrymen.
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October 21, 2005
A Miered Religion
Via
LGF:
In Alexandria, Egypt, a Muslim mob attacked a Christian church and rioted to protest the release of a DVD that portrayed Muslims attacking Christian churches...
It is getting harder and harder to think of Islam as anything other than a poorly written and over-extended joke.
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In 1009 Hakem, the Fatimite Caliph of Egypt, ordered the destruction of the Chruch of the Holy Sepulchre and all the Christian Churches in the Empire the First Crusade did not start til 1096
Posted by: Dan Kauffman at October 22, 2005 01:38 AM (hxRR8)
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Islam is so twisted that it is more dangerous than Hitler and the Nazi's ever were. They have spent hundreds of years brainwashing their people to do whatever some nut tells them to do, no independent thought, just follow the leader. Hey, that's probably where the dim-wits got the idea to follow the Screamer. All are as brainless as the Islamic population world wide.
Posted by: scrapiron at October 22, 2005 02:28 AM (ywZa8)
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Islam? A peaceful religion? Naw! Muslims? An informed people? Naw! Neither in our lifetimes!
Afghanistan and Iraq are the first steps in a right direction but I'm not holding out much hope after the coalitions leave.
Are there places were Islam is peaceful? Sort of, in a few places but not many! Are there a few places where Muslims are not so ignorant? I'm aware of a few places, but not many!
Is Islam a more dangerous "ism" than the Nazi's nationalism? You bet it is! And not just for the West, it's dangerous for all peoples everywhere!
God help us with the leaders we have.
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The Quake That Disappeared
When I
made my guestimate on October 9 that the Pakistani quake might lead up to 100,000 dead, I'd hoped that that figure would be substantially off.
Sadly, it may not be:
The top United Nations top relief coordinator Jan Egeland, incensed by what he saw as a woefully inadequate international response to the most difficult relief operation the world has ever seen, called on the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO) to stage a massive airlift to get survivors to safety.
That would mean helicopters, the only means of getting quickly deep into the rugged Himalayan foothills of Azad Jammu and Kashmir and the North West Frontier Province where 51,000 people are dead. That toll, in addition to some 1,300 who were killed in Jammu and Kashmir, is still expected to rise substantially. Pakistan said the number of injured, now 74,000, could also leap because large quake-hit areas had not yet been reached.
Our own weather woes and political scandals de jour have all but erased this from the American mind. You can keep up with the rescue and recover effort at the South Asia Quake Blog.
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Why should the MSM ever give a thought to a disaster that can't be blamed on Americans in general and Bush, Christians and Republicans in particular?
Posted by: gluxian at October 22, 2005 11:32 AM (BewsC)
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I hate that it happened, but it sure quieted those Islamofascists who loudly contended that the US hurricanes of the past two years were judgments from Allah on an evil infidel populace. One would have thought they'd have learned not to make such 'pious' pronouncements after the tsunami hit.
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October 20, 2005
Confederate Yankee Blog Drive (Day 3)
phin of phin.mu.nu/
I was hoping I wouldn't have to go this route, but a guy's gotta do what a guy's gotta do.
A couple of bucks, or a couple of fishsticks.
You make the call.
Update:
You guys are just
wrong...
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I actually like fishsticks...um, ok, I have 31 cents and a blob of lint in my pocket. Oh, and a pink pony tail holder. Not enough? What about for the handcuffs?
Posted by: Theresa at October 21, 2005 11:17 AM (RzGwM)
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Funny, Phin looks as if he is enjoying the bondage . . .
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"fillet o' phin"...new at Burger King.
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Sniff sniff. Evildoers.
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Change of Venue
Is it a bad sign that Arlen Specter has requested that Harriet Miers SCOTUS hearing be moved here?
La Brea Tar Pits, Los Angeles, CA. source
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The Other White Meat
The web is running
wild with reports that U.S. soldiers desecrated the bodies of two Taliban terrorists by cremating them, and then used the action to taunt other terrorists.
According to Jason Coleman, some liberal blogs are claiming that the bodies were intentionally placed facing west as an insult.
That is demonstrably false, and easily proven.
Warning: graphic photo below the jump.
more...
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Bob,
The bodies stank, the anti-warrior filmed it, the PsyOps guys show up and do the right thing. Then the ghouls and hyenas conflate distinct events to builg a narrative.
The Aussie Jihadi is what stinks. Even Fox is giving credence to this BS. The true story will come out but it will be too late and on page A18.
Headline and Soundbite reading America will buy another big lie. That's what really stinks.
Tom
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Yep, the real story will come out: http://guambatstew.blogspot.com/2005/10/more-on-that-burning-issue.html
Jason gave us some plausible scenarios. CENTCOM will be the judge of that.
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Second installment up, solidifying that nothing "wrong" happened using Stephen Duponts own words.
"So what's really going on. . .(The Interview with Stephen Dupont) can be found at http://www.jasoncoleman.com/BlogArchives/2005/10/so_whats_really.html
Thanks so much for your support.
--Jason
Posted by: Jason Coleman at October 21, 2005 05:36 AM (As32a)
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What's going on here: the Commie News Net is telling you that our people are worse than Ghengis Khan. Easily done. Tape 45 minutes, edit out the truth, and pitch another brick at the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave.
I want the ACLU to sue whomever to release the photos of the WTC jumpers!
Posted by: T. Shaw at October 21, 2005 01:43 PM (9swi0)
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Notice the difference in media play between this incident, and the burning of the contractors' bodies in Iraq by "insurgents" a few months back?
Posted by: Skeezix at October 21, 2005 02:21 PM (VdmwL)
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Hmmmm. Remember those "holy" Saudi police that
would not permit girls trapped in a burning
school building to escape, as they were not
properly dressed.
Anyone hear from the "Internation Criminal Court"
on that one.
Only dead bodies not be burned. OK, but what
happens after suicide bomber blows up - guess
his 72 virgins are over 80 years old.
I do not understand why we "respect" their
beliefs when it is illegal to wear a cross or
bring a bible into Saudi land. And now there
are complaints about the cross on the Red Cross
aid shipped to Pakistan.
These peoples believe in "totems" and fear them.
We think that when we allow theirs and subvert
ours that we showing "cultural respect".
What they see is our fear of their "totems" and
when we submit to them, it proves their strength.
Can anyone imagine if the Vatican were totally
destroyed and all within also destroyed that the
Catholic Church would fold up shop.
When you deal with believers in "totems" it is
a very different result and the same as the
result when armies believe in the leader and not
deeply in the cause.
So one can wonder what result of destruction of
primary "totems" of Islam would be in long run.
(not immediate chaos, but longterm)
Allah after all sent Katrina. Wonder who sent
earthquake with now over 80,000 deaths?
Posted by: larwyn at October 21, 2005 03:14 PM (ywZa8)
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My wife and I saw this on the news last night and both of us thought...so what...why are we bothering with this. These were the bodies of the enemy and they were burnt..so what...if they placed them facing west as an insult...so what...a non story as far as we were concerned.
Posted by: Mark at October 21, 2005 04:08 PM (0cIDM)
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I thought the critical thing was to face Mecca, which is usually East when one is in the Western world. But from Afganistan, Mecca would be to the West, right?
Just seems to me that this is more of a non-musilums issue than a musilums issue. A tempest in a tea pot.
And if it were all true, and it was a great dissrespect? Perfect! I think it sould be made into policy that any enemy KIA should be burned while facing down. The fire should be started with bacon fat.
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Every dollar donated makes Cindy Sheehan cry. *
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If true, I have no other choice but to donate.
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Dude that picture is gonna scare people away.
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Wilma Eyes Yucatan... For Now
Via CTV, eh?
Hurricane Wilma was downgraded to a still powerful Category Four storm on Wednesday night, but forecasters say it could regain strength as it rips across the Atlantic.
As of 11 p.m. EDT, the centre of Hurricane Wilma was about 380 kilometres south-east of Cozumel, Mexico. The storm was heading west-northwest at 13-kilometres per hour, and a turn toward the northwest was expected Thursday.
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October 19, 2005
Syracuse Prof Compares Gang Riot to Boston Tea Party
Syracuse Professor Dr Boyce Watkins, author of
What if George Bush was a Black Man?, compared the rioting of
Toledo gang members to the Boston Tea Party just minutes ago on
Hannity & Colmes.
It was the first time in recent memory that both Hannity & Colmes seemed to think that their guest was an idiot.
As Drudge might say, "Developing..."
Update: Ian Schwartz at The Political Teen has the video.
A partial transcript, picking up at the 2:00 mark:
Sean Hannity: But I don't understand the few people here... How do you.. you can't say poverty caused people to throw rocks at ambulances.
Boyce Watkins: I'm not saying that poverty causes peope to do anything, but the fact is that if you just look at the symptoms and you don't look at the cause, then you're always going to wonder,well What in the world's making people behave that way? You don't have the right to judge people who are in situations you don't understand...
Sean Hannity: Yes we do, yes we do...
*crosstalk*
Boyce Watkins: No, No...
*crosstalk*
Sean Hannity:.. we, we have the right to discern. sir, you are rationalizing -- hang on a second, I'll let you talk -- we have a right to discern
right and wrong, and people, good people, don't like those people who were marching [neo-nazis in a parade. --ed] and good people find it repulsive that people who are there in a community to help save lives have their windsheilds pelted out with rocks. Good people can discern right and wrong, you don't throw rocks at police cars sir--
Boyce Watkins: But good people will support programs that will give the angry youth opportunities so that they don't feel angry. You think this riot is because of... *crosstalk* This riot wasn't due to the neo-Nazis...
Alan Colmes: Boyce, hold on... Boyce this is Alan Colmes in New York. you can't make any excuses for this behavior, and the best thing that could have happened *crosstalk* -- hold on, and I'll give you a full chance to respond -- the best thing that could have happened to these neo-Nazis when they came to Toledo would be ignore them, and unfortunately, that's not what happened.
Boyce Watkins: I agree with you. I agree with you, but the thing is that if you simply look at the actions and you don't try to understand what is really going on, you're going to wonder why they're behaving this way. If you look at the Boston Tea Party for example--
Alan Colmes: You compare this to the Boston Tea Party?
Boyce Watkins: Yes, yes, becuase the fact is that you can look at the Boston Tea Party and say oh, well those thugs they're stealing tea, what wrong with them? But the fact is that there was a reason they were doing this--
Alan Colmes: A movement like the Boston Tea Party? You can't make that analogy!
Boyce Watkins: No-no-no-no. You don't define it as a movement, but the fact is that those peope who ae suffering do. And I'm not saying that all this was justified--
Alan Colmes: You're making excuses for them!
Boyce Watkins: No, I don't judge... I believe in a safer America, but if you want a safer America, you must have a fair and equitable America, in which everyone is given access to the same american Dream that you--
Alan Colmes: You're making it sound, Dr. Watkins, as if poverty somehow excuses the kind of behavior we're showing on our screen.
Boyce Watkins: Poverty, Poverty is not an excuse, but it s partly an explanation. And there's a diffrence between being poor and being trapped in poverty. And so until we as a country fully address the poverty issue, we're going to have another Katrina situation, we'e going to have another Toledo situation, we're going to have another Rodney King sitation...
Alan Colmes: That's a fine line between excuse and explanation.
[italics mine]
Yeah, gangbangers throwing bricks at squad cars is the exact same thing as colonists protesting excessive taxation without representation.
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"Those thugs are stealing tea..."
Classic, yet stupid.
Posted by: The Man at October 20, 2005 06:41 AM (ZRYfO)
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What College of Idiots gave this Watkins a degree?
Posted by: BobG at October 20, 2005 11:27 AM (kglT2)
Posted by: Josh at October 20, 2005 01:30 PM (S6Wcf)
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Actually his college degree isn't as bad as some being handed out by the elite palaces of Yale and Harvard. Most major colleges have spent the past 30 years trying to lower their standards to match the non-educational institution called UC Berkley. Most have been 99% successful. I'd rather hire a graduate of the local community college than a PHD from any of the elite (in their minds) colleges. If one of my children or grandchildren mentions going to one of these dumps i'll shoot them on the spot.
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My son is a student at Syracuse University. Sadly the university is mostly a bastion of liberalism. My first view of his dorm was sullied by all the "No Place For Hate" signs, banners. pamphlets, buttons, and fliers that the administration feels is the most important message to send to the freshman students upon arrival. People like BOYce Watkins are evidence that colleges give degrees to minorities because of diversity and not based upon merit. Newly appointed university chancellor Nancy Cantor is unlikely to take action against Watkins, She is after all the former head of U. of Michigan where she supported affirmative action in the recent Supreme Court decision upholding A.A. in college admissions. She is just as unqualified as Watkins. The liberal idiots protect each other.
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Somebody Forgot About Vince Foster
Via (yeah, I know)
NewsMax:
"Peace Mom" Cindy Sheehan is urging fellow Democrats not to support "pro-war Democrat" Hillary Clinton for president, saying she sounds too much like conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh in her support for U.S. efforts in Iraq.
In an open letter posted to Michael Moore's web site, Sheehan blasts Hillary for backing the Iraq invasion, saying, "I think she is a political animal who believes she has to be a war hawk to keep up with the big boys."
Letter at Slugzilla's here.
I guess that outburst answers any lingering questions about Cindy's intelligence...
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Bob! How dare you question her "true moral compass"! /sarc
What a nitwit that woman is...
Posted by: Josh at October 20, 2005 01:23 PM (S6Wcf)
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Pimpin' Ain't Easy (But It's Gotta be Done)
...And now comes the hard part... what
Ace calls "the shaking of the cyber cup."
While I'd love not to do it, this little slice of the blogosphere has to be cobbled together somewhere, and for the past year, that has occurred on a battle-weary Dell Dimension L733R, circa 2001, which has seen far better days. My wife and I, and our increasingly computer-savvy daughter, all jockey for time on this single and rapidly-aging desktop PC.
Yes, shamefully, I don't have a full-loaded WiFi-enabled laptop with 22' chrome rims. I'm an embarassment to pajama pundits everywhere.
So please consider this:
Over to the right are a Paypal donation buttons for this site.
If each of you frequent readers could see your way click over and donate a couple of bucks or three, it would go a long way towards getting a dedicated Confederate Yankified computer (sorry, no General Lee-type paint scheme, unless you guys go really nuts), which will give me more time to research and write quality posts to keep you entertained.
Is that a good "bang for your buck," or what?
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Only if you get a computer manufactured (or at least assembled) in the CSA.
Posted by: Mike P at October 20, 2005 09:43 AM (mvlLy)
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Only if you get a computer manufactured (or at least assembled) in the CSA.
Funny you should mention that, because both of the companies I'm looking at (Dell and IBM) have manufacturing plants located in the heart of North Carolina. IBM/Lenovo Thinkpads are built right here in Wake County, and Dell just broke ground on a manufacturing facility in Greenboro.
Dude, I'm getting a
Tarheel.
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WIIIILLL-MA! Monster Reaches Category 5 Overnight
...And she's rocking with enough power to scour Bedrock off the map.
Via Fox News:
Hurricane Wilma strengthened into a Category 5 monster early Wednesday packing 175 mph winds, and forecasters said a key reading of the storm's pressure showed it to be the most powerful of the year.
Wilma was dumping rain on Central America and Mexico, and forecasters warned of a "significant threat" to Florida by the weekend.
The storm's power multiplied greatly over the last day. It was only Tuesday morning that Wilma grew from a tropical storm into a weak hurricane with 80 mph winds.
Wilma's pressure readings Wednesday morning indicated that it was the strongest hurricane of the season, said Trisha Wallace, a meteorologist at the National Hurricane Center in Miami. Wilma had a reading of 892 millibars, the same reading as a devastating unnamed hurricane that hit the Florida Keys in 1935.
"We do not know how long it will maintain this Category 5 state," Wallace said.
Not long, I'd hope. Idaho sure sounds nice...
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Ah hell! Here we go again. I live in the Gulf Coast of Fla and we are keeping one eye on this one, but with our nightly temps in the 50's, it's doubtful that it will churn this way. HOWEVER, I am from South Florida and my entire family (except my kids or course) is THERE! Aggggghhhh! Either they are hoping it will pass north of them, or I am about to have a house full of family in two days. Double Aggggghhhhh!
Whatever happens, just say extra prayers the next few days!
Idaho here I come (oh, wait a minute, I HATE Idaho)
Posted by: Michelle at October 19, 2005 08:27 AM (1ojLZ)
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Michelle, My sister-in-law, her husband and my two small nieces just moved to West Palm a month ago, so I'll be saying a prayer for all of you.
Folks, if you don't mind, I've got a "
bleg" up I'd entice you to respond to.
Thanks!
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I live in North Central Idaho. Peak winds for the next two days is forecast at 10 MPH. You HATE Idaho? Fine with me. You are welcome to visit for
special events but unless you are a relative of mine or close friend I would just as soon you stayed away.
Good luck on you upcoming wind storm.
Posted by: Joe Huffman at October 19, 2005 09:19 AM (aFOA0)
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notice to gulf coast people don't tell us about your weather next jan. when we in chicago are in 12" of snow by the way i like snow.
Posted by: yochanan at October 19, 2005 11:42 AM (ywZa8)
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Hate Idaho? Great! Stay away and tell John Kerry and his vulgar sugar mommy to do the same.
But I'll still say a prayer for you.
Posted by: kelly at October 19, 2005 12:16 PM (AISkQ)
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Sorry that you will have to facing more storms. We love living in Northern Idaho and we will be glad to have lots of snow and cold weather if it means more people like you will not be moving here. Good luck to you
Posted by: Sandy at October 19, 2005 02:12 PM (6mUkl)
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Michelle:
wait a minute, I HATE Idaho
Don't your worry your tortured little head. Idaho couldn't care about your foolish hatred one bit.
I live here in the panhandle (of Idaho, thank the Lord), and I find it amusing to see you people who live in the path of these annual stormfests whimper and moan like some miserable dirty little Bangladeshi.
Pack up and move! Or can't you tell that God isn't particularly sensitive to your "sunshine state."?
I mean, we here in the rest of the country can save you once or twice, but we tire of doing the same thing over and over again, year after year. (The definition of insanity is repeatedly doing the same thing, expecting different results.)
Carla F
Bonners Ferry, Idaho
Posted by: Carla Fussell at October 19, 2005 07:45 PM (wjJFD)
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Um, how did this turn into a Florida
vs. Idaho thread? I used to work for a company called MCMS based out of Nampa, and the folks in ID were always very nice. I have family (or after Wilma, that may read I
had family) in West Palm Beach and Jacksonville.
CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?
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I live in the panhandle of Florida, and I LOVE Idaho. Y'all have the best potatoes, and the drive from Salt Lake City to Idaho Falls is a great trip, and aside from your nasty weather, I can't think of a single reason I wouldn't live there, personally.
But, we don't whine down here...we just deal. Hurricanes are just part of life down here on the coast. Nor do we expect y'all to save us, not that folks from Idaho bear the brunt of rescuing hurricane evacuees anyway...
But hey...thanks for reminding me why I love the South.
Posted by: catzmeow at October 20, 2005 09:41 AM (j2vfb)
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I didn't mean to contribute to a FL vs. ID fight. I have nothing against people who live in FL. I have some relatives and friends there. It's just that part of what makes ID wonderful is that there aren't many people here. That and we don't have hurricanes and seldom get tornados or earthquakes. Forest fires can be a pain however...
Best wishes on your upcoming confrontation with Wilma. I have relatives in Tampa and a friend near Jacksonville and I'll be thinking about all of you.
Posted by: Joe Huffman at October 20, 2005 11:03 AM (aFOA0)
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Law enforcement officers, like members of the military, firefighters, paramedics and other first responders are the
sheepdogs that keep the wolves at bay. These men and women and their families make sacrifices every day that those of us they protect will never fully understand.
Because of all that these families do for us, when I find myself squaring off against the bereaved widow of a law enforcement officer killed in the line of duty, I do not enter into such opposition lightly.
Mark Tucker, a Wake County, NC sheriff's deputy, was gunned down by Matthew Charles Grant, a felon who didn't want to go back to prison for being the possession of a weapon. Deputy Tucker's widow, backed by the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, filed suit yesterday against Cary Jewelry & Pawn, saying via a press release:
The Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence today filed a lawsuit on behalf of the widow of a Wake County, North Carolina Sheriff's Investigator, charging that a gun shop's negligence helped arm his killer.
Investigator Mark Tucker was shot in the face with a shotgun and killed on February 12, 2004, by Matthew Grant, a convicted felon. The suit seeks to recover damages from Cary Jewelry & Pawn, who supplied Grant's friend, Van McQueen, with the 12-gauge Mossberg shotgun that was used to kill Investigator Tucker. Grant is also a named defendant.
The suit was filed in Wake County court and claims that Cary Jewelry & Pawn, of Cary, North Carolina, negligently and illegally sold the murder weapon to an obviously dangerous person.
In November 2003, Van McQueen and Matthew Grant went to Cary Jewelry & Pawn to buy a firearm. McQueen planned to purchase a firearm as a straw buyer for Grant, because Grant was a felon prohibited from buying guns, and in return Grant promised to buy McQueen a beer. McQueen was mentally deficient and was obviously intoxicated, and the shop's clerk refused to sell him a gun. Three days later, McQueen returned to the pawn shop with Grant, again wanting to buy a firearm. Although his home address was a local mission, McQueen had $120 in cash to buy the weapon. This time, even though the same clerk who had seen McQueen intoxicated three days earlier was on duty, the shop completed the all-cash sale. McQueen then transferred the shotgun to Grant, who used it to shoot Investigator Tucker in the face, killing him. Grant was arrested, convicted of first-degree murder and sentenced to life in prison for the murder of Investigator Tucker.
"The evidence in this case clearly shows that the gun dealer irresponsibly and illegally sold a shotgun to a man it knew to be dangerous," said Daniel R. Vice, Staff Attorney with the Brady Center. "The gun dealer chose to make a quick buck rather than protect public safety – greed and recklessness caused the death of a brave law enforcement officer."
The commentary in the press release does indeed sound damning when presented in such a manner. The truth, however, is another matter entirely.
The Brady Center hopes to use this case to accomplish via the courts what they have failed to do so legislatively in over a decade of futile attempts, which is to further restrict the ability of law-abiding citizens to own firearms. They are more than willing to exploit the loss of a bereaved widow in their cynical attempt.
The fact of the matter is that according to the case laid out by the Brady Center, Cary Gun and Pawn seems to have followed the law exactly as it was written.
Let's follow this through the press release case presented point-by-point.
The Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence today filed a lawsuit on behalf of the widow of a Wake County, North Carolina Sheriff's Investigator, charging that a gun shop's negligence helped arm his killer.
Investigator Mark Tucker was shot in the face with a shotgun and killed on February 12, 2004, by Matthew Grant, a convicted felon. The suit seeks to recover damages from Cary Jewelry & Pawn, who supplied Grant's friend, Van McQueen, with the 12-gauge Mossberg shotgun that was used to kill Investigator Tucker. Grant is also a named defendant.
The suit was filed in Wake County court and claims that Cary Jewelry & Pawn, of Cary, North Carolina, negligently and illegally sold the murder weapon to an obviously dangerous person.
These opening paragraphs outline the basic premise of the case according to the side bringing the suit. According to Brady, a negligent gun shop sold a Mossburg shotgun to “an obviously dangerous person.”
But by what standard can we consider the pawn shop negligent, and by what standard was the purchaser of the firearm an “obviously dangerous person?” Obviously, these are legal standards that must be satisfied, not emotional standards. Even this early on, the Brady case, as presented appears paper-thin.
The Brady release continues:
In November 2003, Van McQueen and Matthew Grant went to Cary Jewelry & Pawn to buy a firearm. McQueen planned to purchase a firearm as a straw buyer for Grant, because Grant was a felon prohibited from buying guns, and in return Grant promised to buy McQueen a beer.
At this point, the Brady Center must establish that it should have been apparent to the employee of Cary Gun & Pawn that this was a strawman sale. Some Monday morning lawyers would opine immediately that when two people enter a store to purchase a firearm, that obviously it should be apparent that a strawman purchase is underway. That is an erroneous assumption.
Most people are not experts in a wide range of subjects. We all have our strengths and weaknesses, and as a society we rely upon the expertise of others every day of our lives. We trust pilots to move us in large metal tubes hurtling through the skies, trust doctors to diagnose our ills and sometimes cut into our bodies, and insurance agents to make sure our families are well provided for using formulas and tables we don't always understand. In a nation with 200 million firearms, quite a few Americans know quite a bit about guns.
When members of our families and friends decide they would like to purchase a firearm for target shooting, hunting, or self-defense, they often chose to bring along their own "expert"—often an uncle or a friend—to help them make what they hope will be a wise decision. Because of this, many firearms purchases involve a seller, a buyer, and a third party.
Third party involvement does not mean a strawman sale is imminent, nor is it illegal, or even improper.
The release continues:
McQueen was mentally deficient and was obviously intoxicated, and the shop's clerk refused to sell him a gun. Three days later, McQueen returned to the pawn shop with Grant, again wanting to buy a firearm.
We have two incidents here.
In the first incident, the clerk notices that the prospective buyer, McQueen, is probably intoxicated. The clerk does exactly what he should morally and legally, and refuses to sell McQueen a firearm.
The Brady Center does not help us understand why the clerk should have judged McQueen "mentally deficient," and does not explain whether this deficiency was a permanent condition, or a temporary condition brought about by substance use.
In the second encounter, three days later, McQueen is sober. While the clerk was correct in not selling a firearm to McQueen when he had been drinking, there is no law on North Carolina books that I am aware of that tells a seller or buyer that he must wait a predetermined number of days to purchase a firearm after he had had an alcoholic beverage. As McQueen had not been drinking on the day he tried to make the second purchase, the Pawn Shop clerk had no compelling legal or moral reason to deny the sale at that time.
Although his home address was a local mission, McQueen had $120 in cash to buy the weapon.
Is there a burden of proof upon the seller to verify that the place of residence cited upon the criminal background check is not only valid, but palatable? The obvious answer is no, and even implying such a charge speaks to issues of race and class, where someone literally from the wrong side of the tracks cold be denied their rights as American citizens based upon where they call home.
This time, even though the same clerk who had seen McQueen intoxicated three days earlier was on duty, the shop completed the all-cash sale.
Again, McQueen at this point was dead sober. As there is no statute mandating how many days a purchaser must wait to buy a firearm after imbibing, nothing remotely criminal occurred. All-cash sales, carried out in school lunchrooms across the country, are also not an actionable offense.
McQueen then transferred the shotgun to Grant, who used it to shoot Investigator Tucker in the face, killing him. Grant was arrested, convicted of first-degree murder and sentenced to life in prison for the murder of Investigator Tucker.
McQueen committed a crime by transferring a weapon to a felon. Grant got more time than he deserved. He got a lifetime. He should not be allowed that lifetime, and I'd like to see any cop killer face a mandatory death sentence, but unfortunately, I don't make the laws.
The Brady release concludes:
"The evidence in this case clearly shows that the gun dealer irresponsibly and illegally sold a shotgun to a man it knew to be dangerous," said Daniel R. Vice, Staff Attorney with the Brady Center. "The gun dealer chose to make a quick buck rather than protect public safety – greed and recklessness caused the death of a brave law enforcement officer."
Mr. Vice and I must have different definitions of the word "clearly."
The sale of a shotun to Van McQueen was an issue of judgment, an issue well inside the confines of the law as this case is presented, if oe that had a tragic ending. However, unless the clerk can reasonably be assumed to be psychic, there was no apparent compelling reason for the clerk to withhold the sale of a shotgun to a man simply because he had ingested a few beers some days in the past and went shopping with another person.
The "quick buck" theory—all $120 of it—would hardly seem to be enough of an incentive to build a credible "it's all about the Benjamins" case, especially with only one Benjamin ($100 bill) was involved.
This is less of a legitimate legal case than it is a cynical attempt by the Brady Center to use the grief of a widow to try to generate self-serving P.R. and raise funds. Consider me less than impressed, and more than a little disgusted at their tactics.
My heart goes out to Patricia Tucker for the loss of her husband. I hope she can find peace, but this is a case that she should not win. If she does, we all lose.
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Posted by: Confederate Yankee at October 19, 2005 11:29 AM (g5Nba)
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Given that this happened in 2003, if there were any basis for thinking that the FFL (the pawn shop) had done anything illegal, the ATF and/or state/local law enforcement would have brought actual criminal charges.
Since the story, obviously fed to the
propagandist reporter by the Brady folks didn't mention it, and I'm relatively certain that the Brady folks would have mentioned it if they had, I think we can be relatively certain that no criminal charges have been brought against the FFL. Therefore, the assertion that the FFL sold the gun 'illegally' is specious, at best.
Posted by: Heartless Libertarian at October 23, 2005 12:29 AM (bwBea)
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I have to agree that on its face, this appears to be a bad suit. If the reason for denying the first purchase was the intoxication of the buyer, there's no reason for the dealer to deny the second sale when the guy is sober. If occassional drunkenness is a sign of being an "obvious danger," we're all in deep trouble.
I'm familiar with a case out of Texas where a pawn store was sued by a cop who was shot by an underage kid. The kid got his uncle to buy the gun, and the pawn shop let the sale go through, but the facts were more ovbious than those presented here.
The kid, his girlfriend (also underage), and the uncle went in the store. The kid points out the gun and says "I want that one." The uncle goes to fill out the paperwork. The girlfriend tries to pay for it, and the clerk says "I can't take the money from you, you're underage." The girlfriend turns and gives the money to the uncle, who then gives it to the clerk. The clerk then gives the change to the girlfriend. All of this was caught on video with no audio. The case settled just before trial because the pawn shop realized it was about to be on the hook for millions.
Also, on Heartless Libertarian's point, because the burden of proof is so much higher on a criminal charge than in a civil case, its common to see civil cases on this issue succeed despite the feds' decision not to pursue it. That was the case in the Texas suit. The feds didn't think they could get beyond a reasonable doubt, but the plaintiff's attorneys felt they could get at least a preponderance. When the ATF agent who investigated the case was deposed, he admitted that he thought there was a straw purchase, but the ATF chose not to prosecute anyway.
Posted by: Jed at October 23, 2005 08:43 AM (1zLhF)
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