April 28, 2009
April 27, 2009
Hostile Takeover
Confidential sources close to the White House have confirmed that President Obama was indeed on Air Force One today as it attempted to land in New York, but the flight was turned away three times by ground fire originating from
Bank of America shareholders.
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Sadly, this witty explanation makes more sense than demanding the public be uninformed while they performed a blatantly cruel stunt simply to take photos of the plane.
Yet more evidence we're suffering an administration of fools.
Posted by: RandomThoughts at April 29, 2009 01:03 PM (gqqVM)
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Sadly, this witty explanation makes more sense than demanding the public be uninformed while they performed a blatantly cruel stunt simply to take photos of the plane.
Yet more evidence we're suffering an administration of fools.
(sorry if I posted twice; I'm getting a server error)
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White House Orders Air Force One to Strafe Manhattan; Obama "Furious"
How incredibly stupid:
President Obama's White House was forced to issue an apology Monday after a photo opportunity gone badly wrong — an Air Force 747 plane did a low flyover over Lower Manhattan, prompting terrified citizens to flee from their offices and high-profile accusations of government insensitivity in the post 9/11 era.
White House Military Office Director Louis Caldera issued a brief statement saying he was too blame.
"Last week, I approved a mission over New York. I take responsibility for that decision," he said. "While federal authorities took the proper steps to notify state and local authorities in New York and New Jersey, its clear that the mission created confusion and disruption. I apologize and take responsibility for any distress that flight caused."
The panic started Monday morning when a backup 747 known as Air Force One when the president is aboard flew by Lower Manhattan with a U.S. fighter jet closely following, rattling windows and causing some limited evacuations.
Hot Air has several video clips gathered by panicked citizens; judge for yourself if the evacuations or the terror the flight caused as the huge 747 made aggressive high-speed banked turns just above the skyline was in any way "limited."
President Obama, of course, is furious. I rather doubt that he was directly in the loop about the photo op beforehand, but he is certainly taking the heat for it nonetheless, and by the rules the game established by his own supporters over the past eight years, deservedly so.
Regardless of whether or Obama was personally involved in this decision, he is the head of the branch of government that made this decision, and if we've learned anything from his most vocal supporters, it is that the President doesn't have to directly participate in an act to be fully culpable for any adverse reaction.
If President Bush is to blame for torture, the recession, and trumping up fake WMDs to start a preemptive war as the left has howled for years, then President Obama has earned the "right" to take the blame for this debacle and every other than can be tangentially be blamed on his watch.
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Jimmy Carter's Cry for Help
Jimmy Carter
needs to be disarmed:
I have used weapons since I was big enough to carry one, and now own two handguns, four shotguns and three rifles, two with scopes. I use them carefully, for hunting game from our family woods and fields, and occasionally for hunting with my family and friends in other places. We cherish the right to own a gun and some of my hunting companions like to collect rare weapons. One of them is a superb craftsman who makes muzzle-loading rifles, one of which I displayed for four years in my private White House office.
But none of us wants to own an assault weapon, because we have no desire to kill policemen or go to a school or workplace to see how many victims we can accumulate before we are finally shot or take our own lives. ThatÂ’s why the White House and Congress must not give up on trying to reinstate a ban on assault weapons, even if it may be politically difficult.
President Carter doesn't go on to mention precisely what kind of firearms he owns or what calibers they are chambered for, but I feel confident asserting that every single firearm he owns, in every caliber he owns, has been used to kill people, and I suspect we can include police officers wearing bullet-resistent vests in that tally. I'm equally confident that weapons strikingly similar to what Carter owns can be directly linked to some of the worst mass killings in American history, most of which did not use "assault rifles."
Carter claims that he has no desire to " kill policemen or go to a school or workplace to see how many victims we can accumulate before we are finally shot or take our own lives."
But can we really trust him?
After all, Carter admits to owning two handguns, and it was with two handguns that Seung-Hui Cho committed 32 murders at Virginia Tech before taking his own life, and Jiverly Wong recently used two handguns to kill 13 befor taking his own life in Binghampton, New York.
Carter also admits to owning an arsenal of four shotguns, and it was a pump-shotgun that Eric Harris fired 25 times at Columbine High school; his perverse partner Dylan Klebold was found with a sawed-off double-barrel shotgun beside his body as well.
As for Carter's scoped rifles, why are his any different than the weapons used by Charles Whitman in his Texas bell tower attack that left 14 killed and 32 wounded?
Perhaps it is safest to err on the side of caution and view Carter's angry letter to the editor as a final cry for help before he embarks on his own killing spree.
Jimmy Carter owns weapons have been used in more mass killing sprees than the assault weapons that that the former president is somehow convinced contain a malevolent soul, and Carter's record of incompetence has been unmercifully skewered for three decades as being one of the most incompetent Presidents in American history, giving him a far greater reason to go on a random killing spree than almost any mass shooter in American history.
Perhaps America does need more gun control.
Let's start with James Earl Carter.
Update: Jimmy has killed before, shooting his sister's cat. Don't profilers claim that animal cruelty is one sign of a sociopath?
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Not to mention his propensity for shooting his relatives cats:
http://tjic.com/?p=7681
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Posted by: Nathaniel at April 27, 2009 06:07 PM (S6/QI)
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Good Heavens.
How does one 'sting' a cat (your sister-in-law's to boot) by shooting close to it with a SHOTGUN??? Hello? This sounds so absurd and contrary to any firearms safety/common sense that I'd be willing to guess that the truth is rather more blunt.
Best regards, Peter Warner.
Posted by: Peter Warner at April 28, 2009 12:29 AM (c4kJo)
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Dylan Klebold.
Otherwise very well said.
We should also disarm anyone who remains foolish enough to entertain the opinions of James Earl Carter.
Posted by: ThomasD at April 28, 2009 12:40 AM (21H5U)
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The Second Amendment is not about hunting rights, it is about the right of citizens to be able to throw off the chains of the tyrant. The right of self defense is the right of self determination. We have the right to decide by whom and how we are governed. The only way to insure that right is by the force of arms if necessary. Military style weapons are exactly what the founders intended for citizens to own and have access to.
Posted by: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III at April 28, 2009 09:30 AM (tRKLa)
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But none of us wants to own an assault weapon, because we have no desire to kill policemen or go to a school or workplace to see how many victims we can accumulate before we are finally shot or take our own lives.
That statement really really pisses me off! So because I own a so called "assault weapon" I am a psychopath according to peanut head. What a POS he is WORST PRESIDENT EVER! Although Obama is weel on his way to leaving him in the dust.
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Barack Obama Hates Brown People
The Nation has always been a bit "off" as a conspiracy-minded forerunner of the
Huffington Post, and is roughly as credible.
As if to prove that point, one of their writers, John Nichols, is attempting to preemptively blame swine-flu deaths on Republicans who voted against the bloated $787 billion-dollar "stimulus" bill Democrats in the House and Senate approved with near lock-step conformity without reading.
For all these Democrats knew at the time, David Obey could have inserted a $900 million appropriation for swine flu research in Mexican facilities that went awry and created this never-before-seen avian-swine-human H1N1 hybrid. Democrats would have voted lock-step to approve that as well, but do you think Nichols would have blamed Democrats for it?
Of course not.
It's also a fact that Barack Obama actually shook hands with a noted Mexican archaeologist who died of the flu the next day.
If Obama had been a Republican President instead of a Democrat, you can rest assured Nichols and his fellow conspiracy theorists at The Nation,and the Democratic Underground message boards would have been buzzing about the racist Republican attempt to eradicate Democrat-voting minority cultures with a genetically-targeted virus.
Afterward, Kanye West would find a second-rate awards show to declare "Barack Obama hates brown people," and Naomi Wolf would use the occasion to once again declare that it was evidence of a fascist coup, probably orchestrated by Blackwater and Karl Rove, and no one on the hivemind left would dispute her.
But Barack Obama is a Democrat, and is therefore always blameless, so the leftists who need an outrage-of-the-week have found another (rather creative) way to blame Republicans for a natural event.
I can only imagine next week they'll find a way to blame the GOP for missing sunspots.
No doubt, we'll find out Dick Cheney had them waterboarded.
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Hey, Joe,
Would that be the pandemic funding that Chucky Schumer derided as a porky little amendment?
Would that be the pandemic funding that was the last bit of a larger funding request initiated by the Bush administration?
Or is that the pandemic funding that has since been authorized in other legislation?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/4/27/724859/-The-Truth-About-Susan-CollinsPandemic-Prevention-Funding
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April 26, 2009
Letter to an Ignorant Hero
It is more than a little sad that a
man like Mr. Crumbo put his life on the line in dangerous combat missions in the service of a Constitution and Bill of Rights he clearly knew nothing about.
As various other posters to the op-ed linked above have made clear, the 1994 "assault weapons" ban did not ban so much as ONE assault weapon or machine gun capable of firing one shot per trigger pull. It was, for all intents and purposes, a law to ban scary looking features on some firearms, and did not in any way affect their lethality or rate of fire.
The Second Amendment that Mr. Crumbo so clearly does not understand was not written to protect your hunting rights. It was written by a group of very wise men who had just watched a army comprised largely of civilian militiamen defeat one of the most formidable land armies on the planet. The Second Amendment was expressly written to protect the rights of following generations to own arms that would be suitable for them to use as militiamen if the need again arises, as it has repeatedly through American history, most recently (to my knowledge) in the Battle of Athens/McMinn County War in 1946.
The semi-automatic intermediate-caliber rifles that mimic the look and feel of today's modern military weapons, far from being something not protected by the Second Amendment, are the very weapons that should be most protected by a Right that ensures Americans never again need feel the boot of a tyrant on their necks. It is perhaps the Right most singularly responsible for ensuring that our United States boasts what may be the oldest continuously-functioning government on Earth.
The Second Amendment was never about home defense, or hunting, or target shooting. The clear purpose of the right to keep and bear arms was to create a nation of riflemen, a citizenry armed with weapons suitable for use as a militiaman.
If former Navy SEAL Kim Crumbo is the weapons expert he claims to be, perhaps he can point out a civilian weapon more suitable for the militia use imagined by our Founding Fathers that the very semi-automatic rifles that he now says should be banned.
I thank Mr. Crumb for his service, and hope that he uses his retirement to educate himself about a Constitution he defended, but so clearly never understood.
(h/t NC Tea Party Revolution)
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"The clear purpose of the right to keep and bear arms was to create a nation of riflemen, a citizenry armed with weapons suitable for use as a militiaman."
CY, the Second Amendment was written, (not created as that term often carries) to recognize that there is the natural right of the people to keep and bear arms. That's it. Nothing more. It was written to reinforce a clear understanding that the government had no power to infringe on this right.
The reasons for the right are, for all intents and purposes are irrelevant, including recognition of the benefit that this right brings to the government and society in the form of having a well regulated militia available to tap if needed.
Posted by: Dusty at April 26, 2009 03:30 PM (fFk/c)
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I should clarify my previous comment. There are three reasons, if you will, that the right to keep and bear arms is a natural right: Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
Posted by: Dusty at April 26, 2009 03:35 PM (fFk/c)
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I always find it intersting that the 2nd Amendment was penned immediately after the Amendment regarding Freedom of Speech. I cannot help put personally think that protection of one Freedom might someday be dependent upon the second "right." Just a personal thought.
Posted by: Mike at April 26, 2009 05:48 PM (g93+P)
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Crumbo is a long-time greenie activist and Sierra Clubber. It doesn't surprise me a bit that he supports the Left's position on this as he does on everything else.
Posted by: Tully at April 26, 2009 06:33 PM (tUyDE)
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IF... the basis for the 2nd amendment was to protect the right of the people to collectively defend themselves, then why are machine guns and bazookas and rocket launchers off limits? What good are hunting rifles against a modern armed army?
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[Posted by steve sturm at April 27, 2009 11:21 AM]
Gee, I'd never considered the power of a moronic argument such as that one. I've changed my mind now.
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April 25, 2009
Betrayer in Chief
Over at NRO's "the tank," Steve Shippert leaves little else to be said about Barack Obama's
easy betrayal of the military.
The assault is relentless. It is enraging. And today, the Obama administration's assault on those who dare to defend America from terrorist thugs who rejoice in publicizing beheadings, mass murder, and pure evil are on notice: "You will be punished. We're coming after you."
The target audience now includes the American Warrior. The Obama administration has abdicated the Warrior's defense, refusing to appeal the 2nd Circuit's decision that more photos should be released from investigations of the detention of enemy fighters from the battlefield. The Obama administration has sided with the ACLU and abandoned our soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines.
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The Obama administration — and those at the Pentagon not standing up in vociferous defense of its warriors — had better buckle up for an American backlash. Pay attention here.
The photos, taken from Air Force and Army criminal investigations, apparently are not as shocking as the photographs from the Abu Ghraib investigation that became a lasting symbol of U.S. mistakes in Iraq. But some show military personnel intimidating or threatening detainees by pointing weapons at them. Military officers have been court-martialed for threatening detainees at gunpoint.
The photos are not egregious. Not even rising to the level of panties on heads. But no matter. The assault is on. And your president — your Commander in Chief — supports it.
The release of these images serves no practical purpose, except perhaps for "enhanced prosecution techniques" against our own. Understand clearly that the purpose of the release — and the Obama administration’s decision to do so willingly if not energetically — is to denigrate the American Warrior and to further the assault on the American psyche.
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...the principled defense of the warrior is over, by choice of the Obama administration in directing the Pentagon to end the defense short of SCOTUS. It is an outright abdication.
It's utterly an utterly detestable acquiescence of one left-wing radical to a group of like-minded fellow travelers that would rather see our soldiers demoralized or killed than victorious—and that's just what they're willing to admit in public.
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100 days of the spin doctor.we now know the real obama.suppressing & attacking the opposing party via.obama network.more money spent than 3 or 4 admins.together. No tax reducions now.most appointees are tax cheats.fem-nazis in dod & homeland security.supporting crooks like dodd of ct.trying to socialize medicine,gm,banks.disqualifying & teabagers as extremists & idiots via his propaganda network & cronies.no tolerance for opposing points of views.Our vets could be terrorist .This appears to be heading to facsism. we will wait for the next election. the people will clean house
Posted by: norm at April 26, 2009 02:31 AM (GUMXj)
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It's late but I'm obviously missing something here.
The photo's don't show our troops doing anything wrong, but they must not be shown because showing them will betray our Warriors as they will make people think less of the soldiers in the photos - which show the troops doing nothing wrong.
???
Posted by: Jim at April 26, 2009 02:49 AM (GStBc)
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Or is the argument that although the photos show soldiers doing things that can get them court-martialed, and although US law says the public has a right to see the photos, our government must protect the good soldiers who don't commit court-martial offenses by breaking US law and keeping the pictures secret. Because somehow good soldiers will be depressed to have the public know there are bad soldiers. Again, that makes no sense to me at all. It's like arguing criminals must not be seen on shows like Cops because law abiding people who live in the same neighborhoods, or who work similar jobs as the criminals, will get depressed when they see the criminal behavior on TV.
Posted by: Jim at April 26, 2009 03:11 AM (GStBc)
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Jim, you obviously are missing things... or are being dense on purpose.
As Poligazette
notes:
If you want to demoralize the American army - while it is fighting two wars abroad - you should do exactly what Obama has promised to do.
The question is not whether it will fire back in the Middle East. It undoubtedly will. Anti-Americans across the region will undoubtedly spread the photos and use it to enrage the masses. You can only wonder whether the blowback will be limited to protests or whether more will happen.
Barack Obama is endangering current-duty soldiers for the sins of those already doing jail time for their actions.
Surely, even you can see how much of a betrayal this is?
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April 24, 2009
Doing the Right Thing
North Carolina State Senator Doug Berger, a Franklin County Democrat, has introduced a bill that would
end the requirement for North Carolina sheriff's offices to conduct background checks and issue permits before citizens can buy a pistol or crossbow.
"There should be no infringement on a person's ability to purchase a gun," said the bill's sponsor, Sen. Doug Berger, D-Franklin County.
Gun control advocates were shocked when they learned of the bill.
"How can this be the response, that we want to to make it easier (to get guns)?" said Roxane Kolar, executive director of North Carolinians Against Gun Violence.
Berger argued that leaving it up to local sheriffs to decide whether to issue a person a gun permit is too subjective.
"We need to begin to look at those laws that are on our books that were written at a time when people did not fully appreciate the Second Amendment," the senator said.
"Did not fully appreciate the Second Amendment," indeed.
The existing law, like so many throughout the country, are the ugly remnants of racist gun control that came down from this nation's founding and through our shared history.
It is particularly poignant that a North Carolina Democrat is the senator offering up such a bill, as it was the North Carolina Democratic Party that staged the only successful coup d'etat in American history, which was followed by the passage of Jim Crow laws that destroyed the rights of African Americans until the Civil Rights era. Among those laws inspired by the Jim Crow era was the process of county sheriffs awarding pistol permits to people of "good character," which was widely understood for many years to mean whites.
Not surprisingly, the bill is already encountering opposition from gun control advocates.
Racists.
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Jim Crow laws - worse than Illinois Nazis.
Still on the books, maybe not used the way they were intended (to discriminate), but when asking what purpose they serve got blank stares - and feeble statements to effect that this is how it is done.
Those outside NC may not know what this 'background checks and issue permits' is about, but you go to the sheriff's office, fill out a rather unofficial looking form that haslittlemore than your name on it, and buy a pistol purchase permit for $5 (up to five at a time in my county a coupleof years ago), go back in a week and get your permission slips - essentially a 8-/2 x 11 sheet cut into several slips which just say that Name (fill in blank) has been authorized to purchase a pistol by Sheriff (rubber stamp) and date stamp.
By state law you have to turn this over to the dealer or private seller at transfer and then, for all the law cares, they can wad it up into a ball and throw it away.
Posted by: Druid at April 25, 2009 12:18 AM (nFeDb)
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Woohoo! Franklin County, where if you get killed as a pedestrian struck by a car, you get a second opinion at the morgue.
I love living in Franklinton.
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April 23, 2009
Cartel "Anti-aircraft Machine Guns" Neither Anti-aircraft, Nor Machine Guns
And please,
don't blame me for the title.
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Oh Mexico...do they think we find their misrepresentation of the truth cute?
~T the D
Posted by: T the D at April 23, 2009 09:52 AM (fEh7/)
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Um, did you look at all the pictures? In addition to the various rifle and tons of rifle magazines, there was the M1919A4. The statement made no reference as to whether it was automatic or not. I would go with the presumption that it was. But the statement about the .50 is confusing, because in addition to the M2 mounted on the pickup, there was a .50 sniper rifle shown on the table. That was likely the unmodified semi-auto weapon they were talking about. Again, I would go with the presumption that the M2 on the pickup was indeed an automatic weapon.
As to whether the M2 is an anti-aircraft gun, sure it is, or at the very least, can be used in that role. When M2s were mounted on tanks and other armored vehicles and trucks in WW2, the Army's then current doctrine said they were for anti-aircraft use. That they were certainly useful in engaging ground targets was just a bonus.
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Seriously, Brad... did you even read the article?
I clearly stated the firearm on the table was a 1919A4 (and even linked to it), and proved that that M2 was semi-auto by the BATF's own declaration of who the manufacturer was, a company that makes only semi-autos out of parts kits.
You also completely fail to take into account the configuration of the weapons, and how that affects theri ability to perform certain roles.
the M1919A4 is a low-mount tripod cannot be used effectively as an anti aircraft weapon, which I clearly noted. Likewise, while the M2 in various guises was used as both an anti-aircraft gun and an on-aircraft (offensive and defensive) weapon, THIS infantry-vehicle configuration of a semi-auto M2 hidden behind a welded shield that limits vision and may well indeed be semi-rigid or fixed mount precludes use as an AA weapon.
As for the designation of the M2 as an AA weapon on WWII, the "doctrine" was a bit of in-service propaganda to keep soldiers from feeling so vulnerable. True AA versions of the M2 had very different sighting system. Using standard vehicle sights against fighters was pretty much an exercise in futility, but was necessary for morale.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at April 24, 2009 08:53 AM (gAi9Z)
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To use an analogy that Brad might possibly understand (but probably won't): the German 88mm gun was one of the finer anti-aircraft weapons of WWII. It was also used as the main cannon on the Tiger tank. However, it would have been fatuous to claim that the Tiger I was an "anti-aircraft tank" because it mounted an 88.
Similarly, while the .50 cal could be used an an anti-aircraft gun, while on a low-mount tripod it was incapable of being employed in that capacity.
Posted by: Mark L at April 24, 2009 09:11 AM (2X4q0)
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Of course there may be (not sure if it's possible with their copies) the possibility that the TNW M2 copy was modified after delivery to be capable of full automatic.
Of course neither weapon may or may not have come directly from the USA to Mexico, I doubt the Mexican federales found receipts for delivery to prove their assertion of that.
Posted by: J.T. Wenting at April 24, 2009 11:15 AM (hrLyN)
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I don't know why you are hitting this story so hard. The Mexican government and the MSM put forth a factually weak story, with headlines designed to instill fear. Nothing new. However, by criticizing their characterizations of these weapons you are marginalizing the what should be the real story; these drug cartels have some seriously heavy weapons.
It is a sad statement when I believe the BATF's characterization of the M2 as a semi-auto version as little as I believe the Mexican governments story. Its an easy mistake to make, I was a .50 cal gunner overseas, and taught classes on the weapon, but I'm not sure if I would recognize a semi-auto replica from a full-auto without dissassembly. I wouldn't expect mexican law enforcement who have never seen a .50 cal to do much better.
As far as the argument that its not an anti-aircraft gun, thats just symantics and downright silly. A M2, semi-auto or not, is more than capable of shooting down helicopters and light aircraft- the types used by the Mexican LE/Military. A M1919, mounted differently, also poses a threat to these types of aircraft. Arguing that these are not anti-aircraft guns is similar to the classification of the M82 Barret as and Anti-Material rifle. It doesn't mean that its not effective against human targets.
The MSM is bad at its job, nothing new there. There is no need to let new-media get dragged down to their standards.
Posted by: LM at April 24, 2009 01:42 PM (wPKFQ)
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MarkL,
Maybe, just maybe in the 12 years I used M2s and worked around armored vehicles, I gleaned just a bit of knowledge and an appreciation for the nuances between anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons. I didn't claim the M1919 was an anti-aircraft weapon. I'm quite familiar with it's low profile tripod mount, and very familiar with it's close cousin, the M-60 when used on the M122 tripod mount.
As to the M2, I'll confess I was a bit of a bonehead there. I had bad connection to PJM and it wouldn't load the second page. Guilty as charged Bob, on the auto vs. semi-auto part.
But, given that the M2 was in fact originally designed as an anti-aircraft weapon for the Army at the tail end of WW1; and given that I live fired trained with them as late as 1991 on RCAT targets with the regular low profile sights on a regular cupola mount on the M113, I'd say, yeah, it's still a pretty formidable AA weapon. The mount on the pickup may or may not be able to elevate to or near the zenith. MarkL note4s that on a low-profile mount it wouldn't be very useful as an AA weapon. True, but it isn't on a low-profile mount, now is it?
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April 22, 2009
Tarheel Fascism
6 people, presumably students,
have been arrested protesting Virgil Goode's speech against illegal immigration at UNC-Chapel Hill. They seem to be every bit as tolerant as the Carolina blue fascists that violently ended Tom Tancredo's attempted speech last week.
The Daily Tarheel covered the speech via Twitter, and described juvenile protesters that simply don't understand that the freedom of speech hinges on the free exchange of ideas, not drowning out those that oppose your own.
It's a sad commentary on the state of education and intellectual discourse at Chapel Hill, but sadly a kind of intellectual bullying that has become a favored tactic on the political left.
A protestor at the Tancredo event sums up the thuggish behavior with daring honesty when she admitted, "I don't believe a lot of change in this country have come through debating and being happy and talking to people."
Presumably one day in the future this protestor or another one like her will brag about having the university with the cleanest-burning ovens.
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I went to college there...and this is nothing new. Waking up in Old West to protests at the Chancellors office was just how I liked to spend my mornings too...
taxsong.com
Posted by: TBW at April 22, 2009 10:21 PM (iYKSb)
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So..when do we push back?
Posted by: Cow Rie at April 22, 2009 10:51 PM (3lMDb)
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That's the hard question; their vile and noxious behavior is intrinsic and derived from their sick worldview just like the anarchists who protest world economic summits; illegality comes naturally to them ... they are scum-punks.
The time to push back is in November; perhaps candidates should run advocating harsh Federal penalties for inteferring with free speech.
The alternative is so show up and fight back; I dream of it, but don't want to do it.
Maybe derive some satisfaction in that these idiots are using their youths for these activities and this worldview; they will suffer statistically and over time for their depravity and predations.
Tancredo is a really cool guy; I heard him speak in a very casual setting in February.
TMD
Posted by: The Masked Defender at April 22, 2009 11:12 PM (2LPPA)
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We had a similar situation at UTexas/Austin two weeks ago when David Horowitz tried to speak. A gang of some 20 thugs shouted him down, refused to let him be heard, for about 20 long minutes while a large crowd waited. Finally, university authorities threatened the leftists with arrest, and things quieted down.
Believe me, if protestors were interrupting a UT football game, they would have been grabbed and expelled from the premises within a few seconds. It wouldn't have taken 20-25 minutes.
Posted by: Robert concord at April 22, 2009 11:20 PM (H6hvs)
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As a history major, I took a class on Cuban history, taught by a one Perez. The guy was an extremely charismatic lecturer but with a straight face, tried to defend Castro and cited a 99% literacy rate, equal healthcare, etc, among other outrageously inaccurate claims... his speeches on the exploits of the daring Castro revolution were singed into the minds of his students.. most Chapel Hill kids start left and move leftward.. it helps your grades as well. Writing a solid conservative paper will earn you a C-bomb in no time.
Posted by: USMC guy at April 22, 2009 11:23 PM (1hPpH)
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It's the same with gay marriage, global warming, and all other kinds of issues. You go to bed to a debate and wake up to a "settled matter." Take the "wrong" side and the VLWC treats you as if you'd just said the world is flat - except that they'd actually be tolerant of anyone who said that.
Posted by: Chris Roberts at April 22, 2009 11:30 PM (kYSVV)
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One way to "push back" is to find out the names of the faculty members involved and then publicize their involvement.
Another way to "push back" is to find smart people who know how to discredit people and then have them ask the other side (broadly construed) questions on video for Youtube:
http://24ahead.com/s/question-authority
So, if you're a college student and someone who doesn't support enforcement of our laws is coming to your campus, instead of standing around outside with loopy signs, go inside and ask the speaker a question designed to make them look bad. Then, upload their response to Youtube.
Posted by: 24AheadDotCom at April 22, 2009 11:33 PM (CmcMj)
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For libertarian reasons, I'm a free immigration, open-borders advocate. I believe that--all else being equal--people should be allowed to travel where they want, contract freely for goods and services, and live freely on property that they've bought, leased or have been invited on. I don't believe basic concepts of "liberty", "due process" and "free markets" should be limited to imaginary lines drawn on a map of North America 180 years ago. Our current immigration system is a Kafkaesque nightmare that makes "legal immigration" impossible and creates a servant caste out of immigrants who have attempted to do so in good faith. The tough talk on immigration from otherwise respectable conservative politicians and pundits would stop quickly if they've seen what I have: Immigration detention centers that resemble concentration camps, full of detainees imprisoned first with questions asked later, without right to counsel, with a 1-2 day notice of the most important trial of the lives; spouses and families broken apart, jobs and contracts fallen through, victims of female genital mutilation sent back to 3rd world hellholes because of paperwork screwups 10 years ago, children brought across the border by their parents who grow up without any citizen papers and end up literally as "people without a country". etc., etc.
That being said, these protest were despicable, puerile and narcissistic. You don't change anything (or at least anything for the better) by terrorizing and shouting down people. There are principled, reasoned arguments that can be made effectively on this issue to the people who matter. But they can't be made if you're going to behave like Code Pink wackos with some half-assed ideas of what civil disobedience means or entails.
The moral of this story is what happens when the hard left--or other wacko, fringe elements--are allowed to claim a side in a debate as their own. What should've been protesting turns into rioting. What should've been op-ed columns and blog articles turns into stupid one-liner banner slogans. What should've been appeals to the better angels of our nature turns into screaming accusations of ordinary citizens being fascists and racists.
Posted by: TheAbstractor at April 22, 2009 11:39 PM (cuj5b)
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For libertarian reasons, I'm a free immigration, open-borders advocate. I believe that--all else being equal--people should be allowed to travel where they want, contract freely for goods and services, and live freely on property that they've bought, leased or have been invited on. I don't believe basic concepts of "liberty", "due process" and "free markets" should be limited to imaginary lines drawn on a map of North America 180 years ago. Our current immigration system is a Kafkaesque nightmare that makes "legal immigration" impossible and creates a servant caste out of immigrants who have attempted to do so in good faith. The tough talk on immigration from otherwise respectable conservative politicians and pundits would stop quickly if they've seen what I have: Immigration detention centers that resemble concentration camps, full of detainees held without any idea of their court date, without right to counsel, with a 1-2 day notice of the most important trial of the lives, spouses and families broken apart, jobs and contracts fallen through, victims of female genital mutilation sent back to 3rd world hellholes because of a paperwork screwups 10 years ago, children brought across the border by their parents who grow up without any citizen papers and end up literally as "people without a country". etc., etc.
That being said, these protest were despicable, puerile and narcissistic. You don't change anything (or at least anything for the better) by terrorizing and shouting down people. There are principled, reasoned arguments that can be made effectively on this issue to the people who matter. But they can't be made if you're going to behave like some Code Pink wackos with some half-assed ideas of what civil disobedience means or entails.
The moral of this story is what happens when the hard left--or other wacko, fringe elements--are allowed to claim a side in a debate as their own. What should've been protesting turns into rioting. What should've been op-ed columns and blog articles turns into stupid one-liner banner slogans. What should've been appeals to the better angels of our nature turns into screaming accusations of sub-human activity.
Posted by: TheAbstractor at April 22, 2009 11:40 PM (cuj5b)
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If you are a thinking human being, cancel your print media and cable TV to take away the MSM megaphone and their propaganda.
Visit conservative group and "push back" by sticking together in numbers wherever you go whenever you can and promote YOUR CAUSE over the leftists. Don't be defeated.
Visit your school political meetings and VOICE your opinions at their councils.
Join conservative and moral groups.
"He that lives on HOPE will die fasting."
B. Franklin
Posted by: yyysguy at April 23, 2009 12:02 AM (MGDtq)
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So what do you do?
Stop hiring leftists, stop doing business with leftists, stop buying from leftists, stop hanging around leftists. Let them believe whatever they wish - just don't support them.
Posted by: jimobr at April 23, 2009 01:27 AM (YgjLI)
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not good. simply not good.
Posted by: Paul A'Barge at April 23, 2009 01:52 AM (s/VrA)
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It's worse than you think. A lot of students, particularly the smart ones at the big universities learn quickly from these types of displays that their opinions, if contra the default far left one, are not welcome and in fact will be shouted down. It's not only a form of bullying that stops conservative participation in college, but conditions students for later life to just go along to get along in the political arena.
Until people who love liberty stand up and face down the bullies, the universities will continue to use taxpayer funds to run a nursery for leftist radicals and the socialist politicians.
Posted by: K at April 23, 2009 02:04 AM (ESyOe)
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Dear Abstractor,
I have been a Libertarian since the party was formed. You are missing a point. As long as our freedom is impaired by the tax-and-buy-votes policies of the thugs in DC, we cannot have open borders because it puts us in deeper tax-slavery to those that wish to be our political masters. We need to get our house in order before we throw away the locks.
Posted by: Richard Roark at April 23, 2009 02:04 AM (m115B)
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The most effective way to push back is to bust some agitator heads so they'll get the message.
Posted by: sestamibi at April 23, 2009 02:27 AM (UFNnW)
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I like The Masked Defender's idea: Harsh penalties for people who interfere with others' right to free speech.
Posted by: Evil Pundit at April 23, 2009 04:18 AM (lYXvT)
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The place reminds of the fictional college in the movie, PCU
Posted by: HarrisonS at April 23, 2009 08:05 AM (yapiR)
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"... cleanest burning ovens." A wicked acute remark, perfectly capturing the spirit of "The World Without Us", the tenor of Enviroreichsminister Goreing, the actions of ALF and abortionists, and all else who hate human beings so.
Brilliant, Yankee!
Posted by: ALEXISTAN at April 23, 2009 09:18 AM (EWEg2)
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Nothing new... when my dad was finishing his 45-year career as a history prof at a large US research university in the late '90s he lamented that exactly this sort of culture had developed among liberal arts students and faculty after the late '60s antiwar protests. The politicization of liberal arts via grievance departments (Afro, Chicano and Womyn's Studies were his '70s favorites) and the rise of Colleges of Education within universities further hastened the decline.
His generation prided itself on leaving their personal politics out of the classroom. That ethic is unheard of today.
The solution? Take my dad's advice to my brothers and me... any intelligent young person can read the canon and educate himself. The tools at his disposal today (CDs of great lecturers, etc...) make it even easier than when I was a student 20 years ago. However, it's nearly impossible for a poly sci major to pick up Tipler's Physics or even a fundamental calculus text and teach it to himself. Even the CDs of great lectures can only impart a superficial qualitative understanding of math and science.
Steer your children toward studying mathematics, hard science and engineering at university. Guide them throughout their adolescence and college years in individual study of the classics, humanities and art history in order to become educated in the arts and literature. In that way they'll truly be educated and able to function in our society. And they'll have an even greater competitive edge on arts grads.
I cringe on behalf of undergrads such as those at UNC when I hear today's young adults, allegedly educated at elite unis, spew gibberish and fail to understand how easily we can demolish arguments formed in environments in which students and faculty simply rebreathe their own fetid exhalation. At the age of 43 I do it as sport; it's both personal entertainment and a noble public service.
Posted by: Andrew at April 23, 2009 09:42 AM (JSVX+)
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Hey, easy everyone with the "students and faculty" accusations. These were a handful of punk students who clearly have a left wing axe to grind. You can find kids like this on most campuses. But we should be clear that the UNC faculty is NOT in support of such behavior (even if some of their political views agree).
I am an alum who has never received any mail from UNC that wasn't a solicitation for donations. So I was shocked to receive THIS apology from the Chancellor after the Trancredo Incident:
"I want to express how disappointed I am in what happened last night when former Congressman Tom Tancredo wasn't able to speak when a protest got out of hand, and our Department of Public Safety had to take action...(clipped)...On behalf of our University community, I called Mr. Tancredo today to apologize for how he was treated. In addition, our Department of Public Safety is investigating this incident. They will pursue criminal charges if any are warranted. Our Division of Student Affairs is also investigating student involvement in the protest. If that investigation determines sufficient evidence, participating students could face Honor Court proceedings....Carolina's tradition of free speech is a fundamental part of what has made this place special for more than 200 years. Let's recommit ourselves to that ideal."
The following incident resulted in the arrests of six punks, who are now also probably facing Honor Court charges and likely suspension if not expulsion from UNC.
The UNC "faculty" and administration is handling this in an appropriate way.
Go Heels!
Posted by: Blue Heaven 1 at April 23, 2009 10:47 AM (+KXmZ)
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I was extremely disappointed in the coverage by News 14 yesterday. They called Goode a "right winger," which simply shows there massive left wing bias. And stated tat Tancredo was against immigration, not illegal immigration. Shockingly, when I wrote them, they did not respond. Go figure.
Posted by: William Teach at April 23, 2009 11:11 AM (7yTel)
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A protestor at the Tancredo event sums up the thuggish behavior with daring honesty when she admitted, "I don't believe a lot of change in this country have come through debating and being happy and talking to people."
And yet, that's our new foreign policy.
William Teach, Tanc is opposed to much legal immigration. He offered a moratorium bill while in Congress.
Posted by: Pablo at April 23, 2009 11:58 AM (yTndK)
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I would remind "Blue Heaven 1" that talk is cheap, and Chancellors are well paid to speak at length. It is the actions that his administration takes that will determine whether or not the civil rights of future speakers, and their listeners, will be supported or transgressed.
As long as the perception exists that his administration permits or condones such behavior as we have witnessed in these two incidents (and, I must admit that it would seem that these are only the visible tips of the proverbial ice-berg), then a regime of thuggery will prevail at UNC, and at other institutions of "higher learning" that do likewise.
Posted by: AD at April 23, 2009 12:49 PM (S+QWU)
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At least he was able to do his speech without those miserble brown shirts trying to stop him with their usial thuggish tacists
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Barack Obama doesn't seem to miss an opportunity to criticize the previous administration with the bitter, petty relish one would expect of today's breed of liberal fascist, especially when it comes to attempting to brand officials of the Bush government as torture-loving deviants.
It is strange, then, that Mr. Obama is silent about the torture allegations being levied against the government he recently visited just over our southern border.
Mexican soldiers fighting a war against drug cartels have arbitrarily detained suspects, beating and torturing them with electric shocks, a senior human rights official said on Wednesday.
Mauricio Ibarra, a top investigator at the National Human Rights Commission, said complaints of army abuses have spiked since 10,000 troops surged into Ciudad Juarez, the country's most violent city on the U.S.-Mexican border.
Soldiers charged with patrolling drug hotspots have detained suspects in military barracks -- sometimes for up to 12 hours -- and beaten them to solicit information before turning them over to police investigators, Ibarra said.
"They give them electric shocks on different parts of the body ... testicles, arms, legs, buttocks," Ibarra told Reuters.
I'm not a torture absolutist. While I feel it is a last resort, I'm not the kind of idiot who will cling to the lie that I wouldn't condone it if it is the last, best hope of saving lives that are in imminent danger.
Further, I feel that those who would make the claim that they are against using any means necessary to save lives in imminent danger are either dishonest even with themselves, or they are monsters in their own right, willing to sacrifice the lives of innocents for their own quite-warped absolutist ideology.
That said, the torture outlined above doesn't seem to come close to a standard of imminent jeopardy. Those being allegedly tortured here are certainly not terrorists plotting a near-term attack, and if the allegations are true, some of the Mexican citizens being shocked or beaten may have no ties to the cartels at all.
You would think that the Obama Administration and their sycophants in the progressive blogosphere would be leading the charge against human rights abuses that are occurring within sight of the United States, but apparently, torture only bothers them when the subjects are terrorists wishing to kill Americans.
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Mr. Obama also ignores the rendition that took place under Mr. Clinton's Administration.
Posted by: Al Reasin at April 23, 2009 07:33 AM (mxAK2)
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That's because Mr. Obama is a typical Leftist, whose ends are so pure that "any means necessary" to achieve them are acceptable.
Posted by: SDN at April 23, 2009 07:46 AM (9Rqj2)
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Moral superiority MY ASS.
You know what? I imagine that the people in the towers, above the floors where the planes collided, knowing FULL WELL they were about to die, were being indirectly tortured by the terrorists.
So we're going to let the discomfort of a couple of hundred of people get in the way of the lives of thousands? And, more importantly? The comfort of NON-AMERICAN hundreds vs the lives of AMERICANS?
These leftists need to just shut up, else we LET the next attack on LA, New York, or San Fran go through. They'll be the ones crying about it then.
I'm sure if you were to ask a liberal in San Fransisco if his life was more important than 'terrorist X,' he'd say "Of course!" Then we tell him that 'terrorist X' is planning to bomb the city in which Liberal Z lives, and he'll likely be in the blast of the nuclear device that 'terrorist X' managed to steal from the pakistani government. You think he'd be so self-righteous about torture when his life is on the line?
These libs are just too comfortable. Makes it easy to pretend to be morally superior.
Posted by: Cheesecake at April 23, 2009 07:47 AM (RIPa8)
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American leftists are eager to rail about American injustices because they CAN. And not worry that they will be subject to it.
However, they will absolutely NOT go to any place that actually tortures people for stuff like this precisely BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT IF THEY DID, THEY WOULD BE TORTURED.
True courage indeed.
Posted by: Dr. K at April 23, 2009 07:48 AM (VOGgy)
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"...but apparently, torture only bothers them when the subjects are terrorists wishing to kill Americans."
There certainly are not many facts available to dispute this.
Posted by: tyree at April 23, 2009 08:36 AM (Atn6M)
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Keep in mind those slavering for the blood of Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld allegedly because of torture didn't want Saddam removed - and as the Iraqi's know the Americans can't hold a candle to the attrocities committed by Saddam/Uday/Qsay.
Posted by: bandit at April 23, 2009 08:38 AM (/R+6i)
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Cheesecake,
It's coming, no doubt. Just a matter of when. Does anybody believe the manchild president can match Bush's record of no attacks against the U.S. or our interests?
I've offered all my liberal friends a $1,000 bet that he will not. I have received lots of indignity, talk of "luck," and claims that moral integrity is more important than security. I have gotten no takers.
Posted by: PD Quig at April 23, 2009 09:12 AM (ICKO7)
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I'm being tortured every day having to watch such a pissant in the White House.
Posted by: Diggs at April 23, 2009 09:19 AM (Glge9)
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" claims that moral integrity is more important than security"
That is, unless they can pass a law that takes my liberty in the name of security, which happens all the time. Its called the "an accident happened, there should be a law" syndrome.
Posted by: wilky at April 23, 2009 10:10 AM (IBHAs)
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PD Quig: If memory serves me right, the terrorists hit hard during Bush's Term: Its called 9/11, ring a bell?
And we were in a 'war on terrorism' well before 9/11, it just hadn't 'hit home' yet.
And of course, as the anarchic libertarian that I am, I still oppose torture in all forms in all places for all reasons.
Al Quaida and all terrorists are feeble enemies that may be able to strike at the United States, but will never have the power to knock us to our core unless we, the American people, kill ourselves trying to kill the terrorists. Allowing torture is the first major step towards a slippery slope to the end of America as we all know it, a place of liberty, freedom, and justice for all.
Don't get caught up in the tarded left-right divide in politics. The truth is that there is government power, and there is the people, and the only question that matters is where does the balance between state power and people power rest...I'd argue for the distribution of power as much as possible.
Peace.
Posted by: Mook Monster at April 23, 2009 10:55 AM (JJJrX)
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And we were in a 'war on terrorism' well before 9/11, it just hadn't 'hit home' yet.
Except for in had, in 1993 when the WTC was bombed and Clinton responded ineffectively.
Neocon that I am, I say the US gov exists to protect the rights of American citizens and to advance American interests, whatever that entails. My personal brightline is, if you're an American citizen, hands off. If you're not, all bets are off. If advancing American interests means we liberate your country, great for you. If American interests are served by hooking your balls to a battery, sucks to be you, but, ah well. Move here, move to a country we're friendly with or get a better government in your own country - no more risk of ball shocking. It's simple math that makes everyone's life easier. Americans are safer, and people in other countries aren't shocked (no pun intended) when they initiate a conflict having taken us at our word, only to realize that all of our "we don't torture people", and "we don't act unilaterally" and "we don't attack preemptively" shtick has the massive unspoken caveat of "unless we feel like it". Because that's what it boils down to. Panetta has already stated that if they
really need to get info from someone, he'll ask (and expects to receive) permission from the President to exceed the new guidelines.
Posted by: ray at April 23, 2009 12:01 PM (Oi2lG)
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Further, I feel that those who would make the claim that they are against using any means necessary to save lives in imminent danger are either dishonest even with themselves, or they are monsters in their own right, willing to sacrifice the lives of innocents for their own quite-warped absolutist ideology.
I don't see another way to look at it. In particular, the second clause (which I emboldened) can be paraphrased: "My feeling of personal moral purity is more important to me than your loved one is . . . to me."
I call this the "Me First" ethic.
Posted by: Brian O'Connor at April 23, 2009 12:16 PM (ohut7)
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"I call this the "Me First" ethic"...which seems to be a predominant trait of Big-L libertarians - purity before reason and/or responsibility.
Posted by: AD at April 23, 2009 01:10 PM (S+QWU)
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Mook Monster wrote:
Al Quaida and all terrorists are feeble enemies that may be able to strike at the United States, but will never have the power to knock us to our core unless we, the American people, kill ourselves trying to kill the terrorists. Allowing torture is the first major step towards a slippery slope to the end of America as we all know it, a place of liberty, freedom, and justice for all.
What's missing in your slippery slope argument is context. Can we both agree that its' wrong to pull someone's teeth out in most cases? Yet can we also agree that in the case of someone with a cavity, a teeth may have to be pulled. There is a difference between a sadist yanking out someones teeth to cause pain and someone pulling out someone's tooth because it's rotting and causing them pain, even though the actions are virtually identical correct?
So context might determine the same action be categorized differently depending on the intent.
If we are waterboarding Al Qaeada members because we want them to simply suffer then I can see the objection to the action. But surely you can see a distinction between interrogating someone like KSM who by DEFINITION knows about past and future plans because of who he is, and simply waterboarding a citizen because we don't like their political beliefs.
Clearly, there is an imperative, in the case of KSM to get information that will save lives, which might in certain cases outweigh the harm that needs to be done to get said information.
Suppose on 9/10 we had KSM. We knew there was an upcoming attack we just didn't know where or exactly when, but he said "You'll know soon enough" and being one of the heads of Al Qaeda would be privy to such info.
Are you telling me that you would, were the army field manual to not work in getting information from KSM, allow the attack to go through and let people die because of some abstract slippery slope argument about losing our souls? Weigh the damage of 2 minutes of waterboarding one person versus the horrific deaths of potentially thousands. Allowing murder of citizens because we are too chicken shit to even cause discomfort to someone plotting our deaths is also a slippery slope.You just seem to think that people who get killed by such an attack, were it to be successful should pay the price in their lives so that we don't ever get our hands dirty.
Letting other people die so we don't have to make tough choices isn't exactly a moral stance, and if you weigh the cost of waterboarding one guy versus an attack that kills 30000 people there is very little doubt as to which side of the scale will be more damaging.
Posted by: jr565 at April 23, 2009 06:22 PM (Gzb30)
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jr565, allow me to respond to your pointless hypothetical with one of my own:
If by legislatively enacting gay marriage in all fifty states we could guarantee that there would ever again be a terrorist attack against American interests, would you argue with religious conservatives to bite the bullet and support gay marriage?
Posted by: Evan at April 24, 2009 12:29 AM (Bn5+D)
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If you can figure out a democrats mind write a paper. Millions have tried to discover the cause of insanity so you can become an overnight billionaire with a one page revelation. I'm still wrapped up in their justification for supporting the murder of babies, support of homosexuals, and then attending church. I don't attend church (anymore) since i'm afraid the roof will cave in when a democrat enters the door. O'Dumbo has kind of dumped his christian beliefs in favor of Islam as he stated he would do (in his own words in his book). Democrats are not only rabid liars, they are dangerous.
Posted by: Scrapiron at April 24, 2009 10:54 AM (mxAK2)
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Evan, allow me to respond to you futile hypothetical.
jr565 was in the realm of possible and your hypothical not.
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Happy Poisoned Piven Day
Pseudo-environmentalists are celebrating Earth Day today, a day "a day designed to inspire awareness and appreciation for the Earth's environment."
Uh-huh.
My company is celebrating Earth Day by passing out compact fluorescent lamp (CFL) light bulbs to all employees. As you may imagine, I am absolutely thrilled that they are attempting to introduce fragile glass tubes containing poisonous heavy metals into my home. After all, mercury worked so well for Jeremy.
Like Doctor Sanity, I see Earth Day for what it is, a political machination more than an environmental one, and so I'm hardly surprised to see President Obama burn thousands of gallons of jet fuel to take a junket to give a short speech in Iowa supporting his plan to wreck capitalism with a so-called "green economy" that will cost American jobs and cause fuel prices to soar for all Americans during a down market without actually benefiting the biosphere.
Today is Earth Day, they tell me. Today I should appreciate the environment.
Maybe it's simply a sign of how I was raised, but pretty much every day is Earth Day. We cut off the lights when we leave a room. With the exception of the baby, we take showers instead of baths. We grow some of our own vegetables and spices, and hand weed and use organic remedies to minimize pests instead of using chemicals. Given more time, I'd even provide more "green" meat for my family, hunting and fishing to harvest those other meaty emitters of greenhouse gasses and biowaste for the children!
But Earth Day isn't about protecting the Earth for many of those involved. It's about regulating and controlling people, especially people that they find objectionable.
Thanks, but I'll pass.
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Happy Lenin's Birthday!
Posted by: Cargosquid at April 22, 2009 12:28 PM (ESUIi)
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I work at the EPA campus in RTP, NC. Earth Day is celebrated here with as much solemnity as an Easter vigil at my church. If the tree huggers I work with weren't so scary, it would be funny.
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The amount of mercury in one of those CFLs is not a problem unless you try to inhale it. Well, I'd recommend opening a window, and throwing them away in an outside trashcan. Seriously, how often do you break a lightbulb?
I'm an environmentalist myself, but I am conservative. I use CFLs to save money mostly. I remain convinced Al Gore doesn't believe in global warming, nor do most environmental groups. When you hear Greenpeace say something like "Nuclear plants are bad, but I'd rather use nukes than flood the world", call me.
Posted by: OmegaPaladin at April 22, 2009 01:21 PM (U/ACJ)
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I just got my earth day present from thompson cigar and I am going out on My new wood deckand light up a stogy!!!
Posted by: Rich in KC at April 22, 2009 02:40 PM (siQqy)
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I am an avid gardener but I am sooooo sick of "green" I want to puke. I can't stand this EC crap anymore.
Posted by: mbabbitt at April 23, 2009 12:45 AM (AbEun)
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Stopping the use of aerosols in hairspray was a ood thing because it stopped the "hole in the ozone layer" from growing.
Which was a bad thing, because as it "heals" Antactica gets colder - causing Western Antarctican ice to break (ice is brittle) and eastern Antarctica to build up ice - and going against the "The Earth Is Burnung Up" meme.
Lessening atmospheric particulate-matter pollution is a good thing.
Except it is a bad thing, as it encourages plants to take more CO2 out of the atmosphere. Silly nature, doesn't it know only humans are supposed to control CO2?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/5202877/Global-warming-slowed-by-pollution.html
Posted by: teqjack at April 23, 2009 02:05 PM (CEphM)
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There's a company in RTP that makes LED lights. Less power consumption and no mercury.
'Course they're a bit on the expensive side at 50 bucks a pop.
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Duck and Cover
Yes, kids. The media is always willing to cover the
Obama Adminstration's butt:
For the first time, an accused domestic terrorist is being added to the FBI's list of "Most Wanted" terror suspects.
Daniel Andreas San Diego, a 31-year-old computer specialist from Berkeley, Calif., is wanted for the 2003 bombings of two corporate offices in California.
Authorities describe San Diego as an animal rights activist who turned to bomb attacks and say he has tattoo that proclaims, "It only takes a spark."
A law enforcement official said the FBI was to announce Tuesday that San Diego was being added to the "Most Wanted" terrorist list. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the announcement ahead of time.
San Diego would be the 24th person on the list, and the only domestic terror suspect.
FBI spokesman Richard Kolko declined to comment on the pending announcement.
The move to add a domestic, left-wing terrorist to the list comes only days after the Obama administration was criticized for internal reports suggesting some military veterans could be susceptible to right-wing extremist recruiters or commit lone acts of violence. That prompted angry reactions from some lawmakers and veterans groups.
I have to ask—by what standard is San Diego the first domestic terrorist added to the FBI's "Most Wanted" list?
Ted Kaczynski was a high-profile left-wing domestic terrorist that went on a 17-year bombing spree that put him on the FBI's "Most Wanted" list as the Unabomber.
Eric Robert Rudolph was on the "Most Wanted" list as a right wing domestic terrorist when he was captured in 2003.
Those are just the first two domestic terrorists that were on the FBI's "Most Wanted" list that immediately come to my mind; I strongly suspect there were others.
If I didn't know better, I might suspect that the addition of an obscure left-wing terrorist who planted two bombs that caused no injuries and only minor property damage to "Most Wanted" list was a political calculation, perhaps made specifically to help take the heat off a DHS Secretary under fire for supporting the release of a controversial report that labeled mainstream conservative values as those belonging to extremists, and who more or less stated military veterans were too stupid to keep from being duped into joining extremist groups.
I'll leave it to others to judge which.
Correction: As Jim notes in the comments, there are two distinct "Most Wanted" lists maintained by the FBI, the traditional "Most Wanted" list that focuses on criminals and one created specifically for terrorism suspects in 2002. While Kaczynski and Rudolph are without a doubt domestic terrorists, they were listed on the FBI's traditional "Most Wanted" list, and not the terrorism list. The AP article was correct in listing San Diego as the first domestic terrorist added to the terrorism list, even if he wasn't close to being the first domestic terrorist.
The timing of adding left-wing bomber San Diego, a minor figure in every respect, at this time, is still highly suspect.
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was'nt Tim McVaey on the ten most wanted befor they knowe who he was?
Posted by: Rich in KC at April 21, 2009 11:05 AM (siQqy)
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The most wanted terror list is a post 9-11 thing, it's not the ten most wanted, the list the folks you named in your post were on in the 'good' old days, two different lists.
Posted by: Jim at April 21, 2009 11:19 AM (GStBc)
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So Jim will let Kaczyniski slide for being ahead of pre-9/11 designation, even though he was clearly a domestic terrorist in word and deed.
That's like saying there weren't dinosaurs until human beings came into existence millions of years later to name them as such.
Rudolph, however you want to slice it, was on the list from 1998 until his capture in 2003, andspending two years as a listed domestic terrorist and three years prior as a "run-of-the-mill" "Most Wanted" fugitive.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at April 21, 2009 12:57 PM (gAi9Z)
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No it's like saying the Billboard R&B/Hip-hop list isn'the same thing as the Billboard Top 40 list.
Eminem may have been the first white guy on the Billboard R&B/Hip-Hop list, who knows, who cares, that doesn't mean he was the first white guy on the Top 40 list. The AP story is valid in the same who cares way.
Did Rudolph crack the FBI top ten terrorists list in 2002-2003? There were a lot of guys in Afghanistan and Pakistan who may have had him beat. Do you have a link to Rudolph being on the list in 02 or 03 or are you just guessing?
Posted by: Jim at April 21, 2009 01:08 PM (3GzXA)
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Rudolph was never on the FBIs Most Wanted Terrorists list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FBI_Most_Wanted_Terrorists
Posted by: Jim at April 21, 2009 01:29 PM (3GzXA)
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The left has had numerous appearences on the FBI's Most Wanted list during the 70's and 80's. Members of the FALN, BLA and Weather Underground were all on it and most were captured. A few of the FALN are still out there.
Posted by: John at April 21, 2009 03:30 PM (HzjSo)
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Obama just added Daniel Andreas San Diego to his Top 10 Most Wanted to have babysit his kids...
cnredd
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Posted by: cnredd at April 21, 2009 06:53 PM (hUuk5)
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FBI's traditional "Most Wanted"...
So Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn (SP?) don't count either then.
Posted by: Druid at April 21, 2009 09:37 PM (nFeDb)
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I think there's a more nefarious reason. San Diego is home to a major US Naval Base and home to many veterans. By putting SAN DIEGO at the top of the list the WH is reinforcing the false connection between domestic terrorists and San Diego, i.e. veterans. If there were a domestic terrorist named "Norfolk, Virginia" you could bet that name would wind up on the list as well. San Diego, how convenient for Janet Napolitano, a two fer.
Posted by: eaglewingz08 at April 23, 2009 06:08 PM (RdRrk)
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By what standard can Timothy McVeigh be considered a left-wing terrorist? He was a radical luddite who argued that industrial society was a failure; I doubt you'll find many (even self-identified) leftists that agree with that.
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Media Survey Bleg
Aaron Veenstra, a PhD. Journalism Candidate at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, is asking for your help:
My primary research interest is political blogs and I am conducting a experiment with blog readers that I would greatly appreciate your readers' participation in:
http://www.journalism.wisc.edu/~asveenstra/09study-3/start.html
...This study will hopefully shed some light on some understudied areas of news effects by letting me focus on a group of heavy news consumers who are highly interested in politics and current events.
Completing this survey will take about 15-20 minutes and will require a high-speed Internet connection (a connection that's fast enough for YouTube will work fine). As thanks for participating, 10 respondents will be randomly selected at the conclusion of the study to receive $25 gift cards to Amazon.com.
For those of you would would like to let a researcher know what you think of the news media and blogs, here's your shot.
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Gah! That survey just never ends! I tried, though, and lost total interest after 10 minutes. Sorry!
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April 20, 2009
The Sullivan Orthodoxy
While Miss North Carolina Kristen Dalton walked away as Miss America last night, it was runner-up Miss California that got the headlines for
her answer to Perez Hilton's question about gay marriage:
When asked by judge Perez Hilton, an openly gay gossip blogger, whether she believed in gay marriage, Miss California, Carrie Prejean, said "We live in a land where you can choose same-sex marriage or opposite. And you know what, I think in my country, in my family, I think that I believe that a marriage should be between a man and a woman. No offense to anybody out there, but that's how I was raised."
That is hardly an unconventional view in most of America, but it did expose the blithering self-centered cluelessness of at least some of those in attendance:
Miss California's answer sparked a shouting match in the lobby after the show. "It's ugly," said Scott Ihrig, a gay man, who attended the pageant with his partner. "I think it's ridiculous that she got first runner-up. That is not the value of 95 percent of the people in this audience. Look around this audience and tell me how many gay men there are."
Is he actually arguing that state and national policy should be determined by the audience demographics of beauty pageants?
Why not?
It seems to be how "conservative" Andrew Sullivan forms most of his political opinions.
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Like in politics.. an honest answer can get you disqualified.
Posted by: MAS1916 at April 20, 2009 12:57 PM (EjR/1)
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It's also instructive that those who loudly demand that we tolerate their 'lifestyle', are really the most intolerant among us.
Posted by: Billiam at April 20, 2009 01:04 PM (5/v20)
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I believe America is about having free will to think like we believe. Even though I believe same sex marriage should be allowed, I ALSO believe that everyone has a right to his/her opinion and should be allowed to express it!!! Miss California didn't hurt anyone! She was asked a question, and gave an honest answer. How can ANYONE chastise her for that? God gave us free will to think like we believe, act like we want, and love who we want. I actually have gay friends who don't believe in gay marriage because they think it's a union between a man and a woman!!!
Posted by: Christy at April 20, 2009 01:28 PM (hntqD)
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Having just watched the video, I would note that her answer was cheered by the crowd. 95% my a$$.
Posted by: Formerly known as Skeptic at April 20, 2009 04:25 PM (91XRk)
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Voters in 30 states have amended their state constitutions to define marriage as between a man and a woman, not same sex couples. If this were any other issue, that would lead to talk of an "emerging national consensus" But the PC enforcers and their allies in the media continue to lie about the issue and deny this reality. It is a travesty. A minority is forcing compliance upon the majority.
Posted by: zhombre at April 20, 2009 07:36 PM (vr7q0)
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Why are homosexual men interested in attending a Miss USA pageant? Seriously. It's all about the beauty and sexiness of the ladies. A gay man should have no attraction for it. And if it's about the gowns and frills, aren't there enough drag queen pageants for him to indulge in?
Posted by: MikeM at April 20, 2009 08:28 PM (NN/XE)
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It seems to me this man is denying her the same rights he himself demands
Posted by: Paul at April 20, 2009 08:57 PM (rCmYM)
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Mike, maybe they know something we don't and most of the girls are actually transvestites
Posted by: J.T. Wenting at April 21, 2009 12:16 AM (hrLyN)
Posted by: So What at April 21, 2009 11:51 AM (vnIRR)
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Tolerance at its best??? I wonder if he takes part in the street festival in San Fran's hometown, Folson Street Festival
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Transvestites, JT? Not in
those bikinis! Not enough room.
Posted by: MikeM at April 21, 2009 09:21 PM (NN/XE)
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Scott Ihrig is right, though.
She should have NOT gotten 1st runner up. She should have won.....
Posted by: Cargosquid at April 22, 2009 12:30 PM (ESUIi)
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Miss California's aswer was exactly the same as President Obama's so it MUST be correct?
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April 17, 2009
Hatley Convicted of Murder; Beauchamp Still a Fantasist
Master Sgt. John Hatley has been convicted of four counts of murder and has been sentenced to
life in prison:
Master Sgt. John Hatley, 40, also will have his rank reduced to private, forfeit all pay and receive a dishonorable discharge, a jury of eight Army officers and noncommissioned officers decided. He has the possibility of parole after serving 20 years.
The sentence came a day after Hatley was found guilty of premeditated murder and conspiracy in the execution-style killings of the detainees.
He was found not guilty of premeditated murder in a separate January 2007 incident in which a wounded Iraqi insurgent was shot and killed.
Combat documentarian J.D. Johannes was in "The Arena" the killing ground in Baghdad's West Rashid neighborhood during the time of Hatley's deployment, and provides some perspective of what was occurring there at the time. It in no way justifies Hatley's action—to the contrary, it magnifies just how wrong Hatley's actions were during a critical time—but it does help explain how such crimes can occur.
And while I haven't yet surveyed the liberal blogosphere for reaction, day-late-and-dollar-short liberal bloggers are eventually going to latch on to the fact that Hatley was, at the time, the Sgt over one Scott Thomas Beauchamp, the fantasist that got The New Republic in such trouble for his various fictions including square-backed bullets, Bradley 25-ton IFVs that could turn on a dime to pick off dogs in the vehicle's blind spots, and verbally-abused female military contractors that never existed.
Hatley's case is proof that while no system of justice is perfect, the military system's promise of protecting those who turn in offenders from reprisals works.
Soldiers had to sense of justice to take down a superior (Hatley) and his accomplices for murders. Funny how none of the dozens of witnesses that would have witnessed Beauchamp's minor atrocities ever came forward, even when not doing could have lead to time in Leavenworth.
Far from weakening the Army's case against Beauchamp, that fact that soldiers in his unit are willing to testify against the most horrible of crimes actually bolsters the case that they would have come forward if Beauchamp's poorly-constructed stories were even close to the truth.
Below is a repost of my response to the announcement of Article 32 hearings of Staff Sgt. Jess Cunningham, Sgt. Charles Quigley, Spc. Stephen Ribordy, and Spc. Belmor Ramos, Hatley's fellow murders.
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And? [Originally posted Sept. 19, 2008]
Some of the defenders of Scott Beauchamp's trio of fables in the New Republic simply can't let go of the fact that his stories were poorly written fiction. There's always been an odd attachment by some of them to justify his lies, almost as if his stories of minor atrocities were dismissed, then no atrocity claims would ever be taken seriously again.
Today, several left wing blogs have latched on to a story than has been simmering for months, the trial resulting from the execution of prisoners by members of Beauchamp's battalion between mid-March and mid-April of 2007 near Baghdad. They are trying to use that story to somehow resurrect Beauchamp's credibility.
"See? This guys in Beauchamp's battalion committed atrocities, so his stories must have been real!"
Uh, no.
During the debunking of Spencer Ackerman's cartoonishly bad "Notes on a Scandal" roughly a month ago, I compared the military investigation into Beauchamp's lies to that very same far more serious and still developing homicide investigation to make a point:
Ackerman’s biggest point of contention that Beauchamp's stories may be true are the claims that five soldiers contacted the New Republic to vouch for the accuracy of the claims made in the article — but that none of the soldiers were willing to go on the record in the magazine for fear of retaliation by the Army. Ackerman himself presents no evidence that he spoke to a single one of these soldiers, so we don't know if that claim has any merit, but I did get in touch with an officer yesterday involved in the saga who referred to claims of fears of retaliation as "a bald-faced lie."
The claims made in "Shock Troops" — insulting a burned woman, wearing bones as a hat, running over dogs — are barbaric, but at best are minimal crimes if true. Punishment for even those soldiers involved in acts such as those Beauchamp described would be administrative punishments carried out at the base, while those who would have witnessed such acts would face no penalty for reporting them. Lying on a sworn statement, however, is far more serious, and could potentially result in a court martial and prison time. Does anyone seriously want to argue that 22 men would risk their careers and freedom to lie for Scott Beauchamp, a soldier who had gone AWOL on several occasions and who many of these men did not trust?
In addition, whistleblower laws protect witnesses of crimes, whether minor cases of cruelty as reported by Beauchamp, or murder, and we need look no further than Beauchamp's own brigade for evidence proving this.
An Article 32 hearing for Staff Sgt. Jess Cunningham, Sgt. Charles Quigley, Spc. Stephen Ribordy, and Spc. Belmor Ramos will begin next week to determine whether these four soldiers in Beauchamp's battalion executed Iraqi prisoners.
It was other soldiers in Beauchamp's battalion that stepped forward and reported the far more serious crimes of executing captives. It is highly improbable that soldiers trained to do their duty would report their fellow soldiers for serious crimes, while men in the same battalion, presumably with the same training, would participate in a cover-up of far more minor violations, fearing non-existent reprisals, and risking their careers by participating in a cover-up to do so. The argument made by Beauchamp, swallowed so easily be Ackerman, is absurd.
The one particular detail of the murder investigation that has the left so suddenly feisty is that one of the soldiers facing charges (added as a defendent in the 1 1/2 months that has passed since the story cited was written) is SFC John E. Hatley, a soldier that has been cited for an email he wrote to milblogger SFC Cheryl MacElroy (RET).
Vietnam war historian Keith Nolan wrote this afternoon seeking my reaction to this development as he recalled I mentioned Hatley's email, and this is what I told him:
Mr Nolan,
Yes sir, I did quote from and refer to an email between SFC Cheryl McElroy and a SFC Hatley. I've contacted McElroy to see if she can contact the Sgt she emailed and determine it is the same Hatley. If it is the same Hatley, it would certainly destroys his credibility if he is judged to be guilty of such crimes.
What interests me is that Hatley isn't mentioned among the accused at all in this earlier article. I wonder what changed since late July.
As for how that impacts the overall case against Beauchamp? It doesn't.
It was still against SOP (not to mention suicidal) to change a HMMWV tire while on urban patrol in his area, and doubtful that a run-flat equipped vehicle would stop anyway.
There are still no such thing as a square-backed bullet in modern firearms, and Glocks are still among the most popular handguns in Iraqi culture, despite Beauchamp's claim that only Iraqi Police carry them.
There is still no burned female contractor. She simply never existed. I have an independent civilian contractor at that Kuwaiti base and military officers on the record supporting that.
Bradleys and other tracked vehicles still cannot maneuver as he described, and that comes straight from the company that manufactures them.
As for the most plausible story he told, that of someone abusing human remains, I've got two dozen signed affidavits in my hands (well, photocopied onto a CD) that makes the all sorts of slightly different claims you would expect regarding several bones found at a COP under construction, but not a single one of a guy wearing a rotting skullplate with flesh attached for part of the day and night.
Hatley's account was a supporting anecdote I relayed, but it played no significant role in my investigation or conclusions.
Hatley may very well prove to be guilty of murder and of lying in a email about how all of his soldiers are "consistently honorable."
But Hatley's guilt or innocence in a separate matter is of little more than a footnote in Beauchamp's stories, all three works of fiction that editor Franklin Foer finally decided that even he couldn't support.
Update: It looks like some of the liberal blogs found the story of the murder convictions, and predictably, are using faulty logic to insist that since Hatley lied, Beauchamp must be telling the truth.
A sampling.
Crooks & Liars:
If you cannot place the name, Master Sgt. Hatley was the direct superior of Pvt. Scott Beauchamp and the person most used to discredit (along with the gay porn star) the New Republic diary of the life of a soldier in Iraq and the ways they dealt with the pressures of Operation Clusterf*ck. All of which Hatley said was absolutely not what his ever virtuous soldiers did.
TPM Muckraker:
Some of those conservatives, including the Weekly Standard's Michael Goldfarb, participated in a concerted (and inaccurate) effort to discredit Beauchamp and tar, for lack of patriotism, the notoriously dovish New Republic and, by association, liberals everywhere.
For his reporting, Goldfarb relied on some...let's call them 'questionable' sources and even got an assist, in a bizarre breach of protocol, from Beauchamp's First Sergeant, who took to the blogosphere to make the case against the beleaguered Private. "My soldiers [sic] conduct is consistently honorable."
This soldier has other underlining [sic] issues which I'm sure will come out in the course of the investigation. No one at any of the post we live at or frequent, remotely fit the descriptions of any of the persons depicted in this young man's fairy tale. I can't and won't divulge any information regarding this soldier, but I do sincerely appreciate all the support from the people back home. Again, this young man has a vivid imagination and I promise you that this by no means reflects the truth of what is happening here.
The name of that Non-Commissioned Officer might ring a bell: John Hatley. And he seems to have protested a bit too much. Hatley had, in fact, committed the murders before he took to the Internet to defend himself and his fellow soldiers against charges of recklessness. We excitedly await Goldfarb's statement on the issue.
Andrew Sullivan:
In many ways, you couldn't make this up. But given Michael Goldfarb's enthusiasm for killing innocents, it's not terribly surprising. Goldfarb was part of the wide bloggy attempt to describe TNR's correspondent, Scott Beauchamp, as an America-hating loser and liar for pointing out that some soldiers in Iraq acted dishonorably and immorally. One of his key sources, Beauchamp's own First Sergeant, was critical in rebutting Beauchamp's charges. Goldfarb's source for defending the honor of his men and himself was just convicted "of executing four handcuffed, blindfolded Iraqi men by shooting them in the backs of their heads." Goldfarb's kinda guy. But who looks more credible now? Goldfarb or Beauchamp?
Looks like we have some liberals trying to rewrite history on a grand scale.
Hatley was not a source cultivated by Michael Goldfarb of the Weekly Standard, and his comments were not solicited by Goldfarb either. Then SFC Hatley wrote his comments in an email responding to milblogger SFC Cheryl McElroy, which you can read in the original form at her blog. It's quite obvious after reading that link that both Sullivan and TPMM's Brian Beutler owe Goldfarb at least a correction, thought I doubt they have the integrity to issue an apology for their rather gutless smears.
Like all of Beauchamp's wannabe defenders, these bloggers and others have overinflated Hatley's importance. Hatley's email on SFC McElroy's blog was a character reference we now know to be worthless.
That said, I have, via FOIA, all of the statements taken from soldiers in Beauchamp's unit, asked about the specific allegations Beauchamp alleges. There were more than two dozen. Even though they would have faced felony jail time if they lied under oath, not one soldier would support Beauchamp.
Not. One.
Bu the evidence that damned Beauchamp more than even the military investigation were details I investigated independently of the military.
I hunted down the manufacturer of the Bradley IFV, gave him Beauchamp's story, and he explained why you can't hit dogs as described in Beauchamp's fictions with a 25-ton tank.
I hunted down both civilian and military personnel in other commands that were stationed at both the camps Beauchamp claimed to have insulted the burned woman at, and all confirm that such a distinctive character would have easily stood out, and yet, she never existed.
As something of a firearms expert in my own right, I can state definitively that "square-backed" pistol ammunition Beauchamp wrote of and claimed to have recovered has never existed. Not was he even close to correct in claiming that Glock pistols were carried only by Iraqi police when they are in fact the most widespread pistol among the military, police, and civilians in Iraq.
Hatley is a murderer who directed a conspiracy to cover up his crime. He's also a liar. We all agree on that, and I think we all agree he earned his life sentence (though I would prefer that he didn't have the opportunity for parole after 20 years).
That said, Hatley's role in the Beauchamp case was a minor one (you can read my archives if you doubt that), and watching liberal bloggers trying to inflate his role so that they can tear down the case against Beauchamp (and thereby justify for their loathing for all things military) is a pathetic attempt at self-edification by a group that would still rather spit on the uniform than honor it.
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I was wondering if you were going to address the fact that during Hatley's trial, the other soldiers were describing the same frustrations and similar acts that Beauchamp was describing in his articles. There is also the fact that the person who discredited Beauchamp the most (along side a gay porn star) turned out to be a cold blooded murderer and actually kind of a psycho (unless you think shooting innocent men in the back of the head a sane act). Or that Scott has actually gone up in rank since all of those allegations were made but still never recanted anything he said. I always found that interesting. I'm not sure why the military would promote a man who made up stories and then wouldn't take them back. You'd think they'd probably want to punish him in some way...weird...
Must be those "flaws" in the judicial system.
Posted by: Madi at April 17, 2009 11:18 PM (EKvaD)
Posted by: Dan at April 17, 2009 11:20 PM (+pZM+)
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Madi - It would have useful for you to have read the post before making such an embarrassing comment.
Posted by: daleyrocks at April 18, 2009 03:40 PM (odYIP)
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Madi - It would have useful for you to have read the post before making such an embarrassing comment.
Posted by: daleyrocks at April 18, 2009 03:40 PM (odYIP)
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The leftosphere is out in full force on our blog for the same reason, raising the level of discourse by dismissing anyone who disagrees with us as "wingnuts".
They're infested the comments of ExJon's post here ( http://www.exurbanleague.com/2007/07/27/beauchump.aspx ), and I have a rebuttal here ( http://exurbanleague.com/2009/04/18/into-the-valley-of-the-shadow-of-the-moonbats.aspx ).
Posted by: Exurbankevin at April 18, 2009 06:55 PM (toqoX)
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Can we get Franklin Foer on the record? We really need to hear from TNR on this.
That would be funny.
Posted by: Pablo at April 19, 2009 10:17 AM (yTndK)
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Confederate Yankee,
I take issue with the latter part of this comment:
"Like all of Beauchamp's wannabe defenders, these bloggers and others have overinflated Hatley's importance. Hatley's email on SFC McElroy's blog was a character reference we now know to be worthless."
The character reference given by 1SG Hatley in the e-mail is in response to Beauchamp's wild-assed stories and broad-brushed condemnation of the fellow Soldiers in his unit. Beauchamp was and is a punk. He finally admitted he lied, but not before he fed the maws of the anti-military/anti-war moonbats. I also had correspondence with Major Kirk Luedeke, the Public Relations Officer,who explained Beauchamp's antics in detail.
Put this in its proper perspective: 1SG Hatley's squad did not go into a village and select unarmed civilians for a summary execution. They chased down four armed terrorists who FIRED at them; capturing them as well as finding their weapons cache. In retrospect, they should have saved themselves the trouble and killed them on the spot.
SFC Cheryl McElroy
US ARMY (RET)
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Seeds of Discontent
While "public" opinion polls published by the media show broad public support for President Obama's political agenda and the American press has continued to give him and Congress fawning coverage, a wave of disgust with Washington seems to be growing across the country.
Montana's governor just signed a law that exempts firearms manufactured in the state for residents from federal regulations.
Gov. Brian Schweitzer has signed into law a bill that aims to exempt Montana-made guns from federal regulation, adding firepower to a battery of legislative efforts to assert states' rights across the nation.
"It's a gun bill, but it's another way of demonstrating the sovereignty of the state of Montana," Democrat Schweitzer said.
Texas Governor Rick Perry affirmed Texas' sovereignty last week, and then created an uproar when he hinted the possibility of secession:
We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that.
Today, Rasmussen released a jolting poll that just 75% percent of Texans would opt to remain in the United States. It would be good to know if the 25% that feel otherwise is a number that has increased, decreased, or remained the same, but that simply isn't the kind of poll that gets asked anywhere often enough to determine a trend.
Mirroring a Congress that passed a nearly trillion dollar stimulus bill without reading it, the Georgia Senate passed a bill affirming states rights and rather stupidly pronounced a right to secede over inconsequential, trivial matters.
Montana, Texas and Georgia are not alone in their disgust, as 30-percent of state legislatures are in some stage of debate over resolutions challenging a power-hungry federal government.
This pushback against federal authority comes at a time when it was revealed that the Department of Homeland Security released a document that painted those who disagree with the left-wing bent of the current federal government as "right wing extremists." This overly-broad threat assessment painted a significant number of Americans as potential domestic terrorists for sharing one or more mainstream conservative values. The story broke just one day before hundreds of grass-roots protests involving more than a quarter-million Americans took place against excessive government spending in what were promoted as non-partisan TEA (Taxed Enough Already) parties. This report was sent to police agencies nationwide, much to the disgust of the chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, Bennie G. Thompson (D-MS), and over the objections of the DHS Civil Rights officials as well.
It is perfectly normal for a political party out of power to feel disenfranchised, and the wailing drama of the minority can indeed be both obscene and absurd as we've noted abundantly during recent years.
But there is something deeper and far more disturbing about the present simmering distrust between American citizens and a federal government that seems to desire to be rulers instead of leaders.
It isn't just partisan sniping directed at one party's politicians by the opposition, but a questioning of the competencies and motivations of the federal agencies under their control. In addition to doubts about the federal government, their is an open disgust and mutual animosity developing between the pundit and media classes and the citizenry. Journalists, editors, and publishers that are supposed to be government watchdogs have long ago debased themselves into being nothing more than partisan cheeerleaders, and have now descended to the point of making contemptuous and crude sex jokes at the expense of citizens, or flat out suggesting they have a mental disorder if the have political beliefs that diverge from their own.
Historically, Americans have found ways to resolve or at least contain even the most polarized beliefs. We've had one bloodless transfer of elected power after another to the point that only twice—the Civil War and the Wilmington, NC coup d'état—has insurrection been a significant threat (the Civil War is obviously notable the size and scope of it's insurrection; the Wilmington Insurrection was notable for being the only successful coup against a lawfully elected government on American soil, and because it was possible because of a fusion between Klansmen, the state Democratic Party, and the most powerful newspaper in the state, the still existing and still reliably Democratic Raleigh, NC News & Observer).
Thankfully, not having the kind of significant political strife that threatens to undermine the core of our political system has simply become expected. That faith we have in our political systems and the checks and balances contained within have served this country well, but those systems are not perfect nor permanent.
Odds are that the current situation will diffuse peaceably of its own volition. The states and federal government will likely learn to accommodate each other without a constitutional crisis, and market conditions will either put an end to overtly biased news companies or see them marginalized.
But there is a chance, a very slim chance, that those in power have developed too great of a sense of their self-worth, and it is that troublesome DC-centric self-importance that has caused state governors and legislatures of both parties to sound a warning rattle.
Young or old, Democratic, Republican, or politically apathetic, we love our freedom in America. we will not cede it to tyrants, be they foreign potentates or self-aggrandizing homegrown snobs that think they know better than you do how to live your life.
Let us hope that once again words will be enough, and that the cautionary, months-long run on firearms and ammunition is just an over-reaction, and not a precursor.
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Why put quotes around the word public when talking about polls that show overwhelming support for the administrations policies, and then go right ahead and quote the "jolting" poll showing 75% of Texans are dead set against secession? What makes that poll result telling while the others are suspect?
I think they are both saying the same thing, Obama is quite popular except for a very small minority of citizens who hold to some pretty silly viewpoints.
More importantly, why should this administration, or any administration, change it's priorities to try and placate a 20%-30% minority view? Obama has majority support from Democrats, and majority support from independents. That's a majority of voters and the base that elected him. It's not his job to try and appease a minority that didn't vote for him, it's his job to do the will of the majority who elected him.
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I thought it was kind of amusing that on the one hand you say 'or flat out suggesting they have a mental disorder if the have political beliefs that diverge from their own'
While having this comment in the header of your page:
"Because liberalism is a persistent vegetative state"
I've no doubt if I bothered to read your prior comments your epiphany is recent.
Okay I bothered...I was right. LOL
Posted by: HeavyHemi at April 17, 2009 06:03 PM (god7U)
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It fascinates me that these lefties are the most hypocritical, stupid, blind nit-wits I've ever seen or heard. They act like middle school kids, all the while thinking that they are so intelligent. Sad thing is...53,000,000 other nit wits voted for the main nit-wit.
Posted by: ironeagle at April 17, 2009 08:53 PM (OuxNz)
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"But there is something deeper and far more disturbing about the present simmering distrust between American citizens and a federal government that seems to desire to be rulers instead of leaders."
Bang on, Bob.
Posted by: Bill Smith at April 17, 2009 09:08 PM (upUQP)
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Very persuasive argument you've made there ironeagle. Flawless.
Posted by: Jim at April 17, 2009 11:19 PM (GStBc)
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I take issue with the concept that succession is "silly". The poll results do indicate that people are beginning to consider the fact that we would be better off with a split government. You must consider who the 25% are that want a reasonable, limited government. Are they nut cases or are they the marginalized hard working people that just happen to make money and fund the other 50% of the country. If they are the latter then we are in for a revolution for sure. This is one I think is long over due. I know that living in the South I am hearing much more about a change and not the type that Obama wants.
Posted by: david at April 19, 2009 05:52 PM (X62Aj)
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Excellent post. Superb.
Posted by: cmblake6 at April 19, 2009 08:57 PM (mSaOp)
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Excellent post. Superb.
And do you have any idea how badly this spam warning thing is getting?
Posted by: cmblake6 at April 19, 2009 08:59 PM (mSaOp)
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Our situation today would be close to the situation before Shay's Rebellion in 1786 where the taxing of farmers during a depression was causing farmers to lose their land in debtor courts. The farmers tried petitioning the government as we have via the Tea Parties; then they occupied the courts. They were ignored and eventually took up arms against the state government and were defeated.
I suggest that if the tea parties fail, and so far it appears they have not influenced congress, then following MLK's lead, we should start picketing those politicians' local offices who have voted to spend us into ruination. If that doesn't work, sit-ins at their local offices will be required. Hopefully congress is more astute than was the Massachusetts government in Shays time or Southern Democrats were during the civil rights movement.
We 60 something retirees have the time, even to spend in jail if necessary, and should have the motivation to save our children and grandchildren from economic rumination and a loss of their freedoms. The Greatest Generation saved our nation from Fascism so we owe future generations a serious effort to return to the economic and personal freedom they fought so bravely to retain. As I expected I have convinced few people of the necessity of such actions; therefore I may have to go it alone.
Posted by: Al Reasin at April 20, 2009 07:24 AM (XRq3E)
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David, you said "I take issue with the concept that succession is "silly". The poll results do indicate that people are beginning to consider the fact that we would be better off with a split government. You must consider who the 25% are that want a reasonable, limited government. Are they nut cases or are they the marginalized hard working people that just happen to make money and fund the other 50% of the country. If they are the latter then we are in for a revolution for sure. This is one I think is long over due."
From what I've seen of rallies like the tea parties they are not full of people who earn in the top 5%, they are full of middle class people who pay less Federal taxes now than they did under Reagan and the Bushes. That top 5%, the ones who would pay more taxes under Obama than under Bush would still pay less than they did under Reagan. So where was the revolt then?
What is silly about secession is the idea that if a state like Texas went out on it's own, suddenly by some magic it wouldn't have to pay for roads, schools, police, it's own army, etc. That takes tax money. Texas just about breaks even in terms of federal tax money out, and federal spending in Texas, so without the Feds you're looking at the same bills to pay from the same tax base. Assuming of course that Texas could raise it's own army, boarder patrol, DEA, FBI, etc...
And that 25% who wanted secession and "limited government" - whatever that means, what gets cut? - would have to deal with the 75% who was happy with the way things were. Try ruling 75% of of the people with 25%, then you'll see what revolution really is!
Posted by: Jim at April 20, 2009 03:12 PM (GStBc)
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Jim,
The circumstances that we have now are very similar to those of the 1850's. I am sure that if Texas went off on its own that it would do very well. But I doubt they would be alone for long. In short oder would follow, Louisiana, Mississippi, etc. I short there are a considerable number of people who are sick of the government and see no alternative but to start over.
Posted by: david at April 20, 2009 04:41 PM (X62Aj)
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The circumstances now are completely different than the 1850s, unless you're thinking that 75% of the white south was against secession prior to the Civil War.
LA, MS, GA, AL, etc are some of the biggest beneficiaries of Federal tax dollars, they get much more coming in than they send out. Secession, ignoring the additional costs of standoff/conflict with the USA, would bankrupt most of the red states, it's a non-starter.
As for just Texas, for a start, where would you find the money to police the Texas boarder, which would now include every inch of the state, not just the boarder with Mexico. Taxes.
And again, you're ignoring the 75% who want no part of the deal, they kinda count.
Posted by: Jim at April 20, 2009 07:07 PM (GStBc)
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Just to add some numbers here's what those states get back from the Feds for every $1 they pay in Federal taxes:
TX .94
La 1.45
MS 1.77
AL 1.71
GA .96
AR 1.47
FL 1.02
SC 1.38
Think about what those numbers mean. If, for example, MS taxed their citizens at the current Federal level, they'd be able to provide about half the local services. Pretending there would be no costs associated with things like making an FAA, FBI, DEA, etc from scratch, just paying for the current level of goods and services would require raising taxes above current levels for a new Confederacy. Now that's a recipe for revolt.
Posted by: Jim at April 20, 2009 07:29 PM (GStBc)
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Here's the link for those numbers, look at the states that are paying verses those taking, it's pretty much Blue pay, Red take. Revolt all you want, you'll be getting a worse deal.
http://www.taxfoundation.org/UserFiles/Image/Blog/ftsbs-large.jpg
Posted by: Jim at April 20, 2009 07:31 PM (GStBc)
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Hey Jim -
So I have "Silly" viewpoints because I don't agree with Ubumma? Are you writing reports for Homeland Security too?
Posted by: Mikey J at April 21, 2009 01:43 PM (T4ASz)
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Hey Jim -
So my viewpoints are "silly" because I don't agree with Ubumma's views? Do you also write reports for Homeland Security?
Posted by: Michael Smith at April 21, 2009 01:45 PM (T4ASz)
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Hey Jim -
So my viewpoints are "silly" because I don't agree with Ubumma's views? Do you reailize how "silly" your statement is? Do you also write reports for Homeland Security?
Posted by: Mikey J at April 21, 2009 01:47 PM (T4ASz)
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So Jim -
My viewpoints are "silly" because I don't agree with Ubumma? Do you also write reports for Homeland Security?
Posted by: Mikey J at April 21, 2009 01:49 PM (T4ASz)
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Well Mike, I don't know you personally, but seeing your work here, four nearly identical posts all with the ridiculous misspelling of the Presidents name, I'm going to go out on a limb and say yes, I do suspect you hold a number of silly viewpoints.
There are about 40% of the people in the USA who don't agree with Obama, and only about 20% who are silly enough to talk nonsense like secession over their Reagan era sized tax bills. Only you can say for certain which 20% you're in, but again, the Ubumma is a pretty big hint.
Posted by: Jim at April 22, 2009 12:35 AM (GStBc)
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April 16, 2009
Finally! Anderson Cooper Comes Out of the Closet
A bit of personal wisdom approximately 50 seconds in.*
Other so-called "professional" journalists engaged in the juvenile wordplay as well, all--perhaps not surprisingly--on networks that aren't doing so well.
*MSNBC's Keith Olbermann is not gay, despite a performance history that might suggest otherwise.
Yeah, low-hanging fruits.
Oh, wait. People, people...
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These douches must have all gotten their talking points from barney franks. Interesting that they all seem to know what the term refers to. Maybe they heard it while servicing their beloved leader's nether region?
Posted by: emdfl at April 16, 2009 08:39 PM (/A+Fk)
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Anderson, the silly boy, tea-bagged himself.
Posted by: zeezil at April 17, 2009 01:07 AM (3gNxn)
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Oh, ick. Not that this comes as a surprise but whatever happened to leaving somethings to the public's imagination?
No wonder no one watches the MSM anymore. At least we know why that lady from CNN was so worried about the Tea Parties being "family-friendly." She was projecting her industry's R-rating on us!
Posted by: Slveryder at April 17, 2009 04:04 AM (pNRPX)
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See, the thing about the tea party thing is, it's named after the Boston tea party. If you hear that and instantly think about what Anderson is talking about here, that's because it's in YOUR head all the time.
But the purveyors of this sort of talk don't care because that's how this sort of "humor" works. Call it the Beavis and Butthead syndrome...('he said teabag!').
Not only is it not funny and was NEVER FUNNY, it's also ruining language in general. How many other words are going to be destroyed in the future because they mean something else to idiots?
Posted by: xerocky at April 17, 2009 06:29 AM (kX5hh)
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NOW we know why we don't hear much from Cooper outside of his work. His mouth is full!
Sorry, CY, I couldn't stop myself.
Posted by: Tully at April 17, 2009 02:23 PM (tUyDE)
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Rep. Jan Schakowsky = The Biggest Joke In Congress?
Probably not considering the cast of incompetents, malcontents and crooks we have in both parties, but she has some nerve calling the Tea Party protests "
despicable" as if being a Congresswoman gives her the sovereign right to pillage the national treasury.
Then again, she is yet another far left progressive Democrat married to a tax cheat, so perhaps she does honestly think she's entitled to both your money and her "let them eat cake" attitude.
Schakowsky's antipathy for America's taxpayers is all too common from our elected officials.
Of course, if people keep electing people like her by wide margins, there is no reason for them to feel otherwise.
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Their Favorite Fictions
Two readers sent me a link to another infuriating and
dishonest New York Times story about Americans guns begin purchased in the United States and being smuggled south for use by Mexican drug cartels.
As you may expect, it picked up on the White House's favorite faux talking points:
Sending straw buyers into American stores, cartels have stocked up on semiautomatic AK-47 and AR-15 rifles, converting some to machine guns, investigators in both countries say. They have also bought .50 caliber rifles capable of stopping a car and Belgian pistols able to fire rifle rounds that will penetrate body armor.
As it so often does, existing BATF rules and regulations disprove the mediaÂ’s assertions. Simply put, The BATF does not allow the manufacture or importation of firearms that can easily be modified into machine guns, and those drop-in parts which can quickly change a semi-automatic design are treated and as strictly monitored and regulated as machine guns themselves under U.S. law.
If there are conversions going on in Mexico, it means that the parts that make a machine gun a machine gun already exist in Mexico, meaning no additional laws targeting U.S. guns would make a difference.
And when you come down to it, I'm tired of government officials that favor gun control telling us that these conversions are taking place. I want them to show us specific conversions they have captured, making the serial numbers and manufacturing details of their parts public record so that we can determine for ourselves where these parts are coming from.
As for the .50 caliber rifles "capable of stopping a car," well, a typical car can be stopped with just about any centerfire rifle you would use for deer hunting, or with a typical shotgun. Implying that .50 caliber bullets have magical properties is rhetorically disingenuous. Yes, the .50 BMG cartridge produces far more energy than a typical rifle bullet, but the bullet isn't explosive, which is just what most pro-gun control stories stop just short of stating when they imply such firearms are threats to train cars, airplanes, and armored vehicles.
As for the .50 rifles being recovered in Mexico, commenters have remarked before how the .50-caliber rifles being recovered by the Mexican police look suspiciously like those sold to the Mexican military, right down to the same brand of scope and back-up iron sights (BUIS). Once again, that is not a problem that would be resolved by more restrictions in the United States.
As for the "Belgian pistols able to fire rifle rounds that will penetrate body armor," the authors are peddling yet another statement that is a only loosely based in fact.
The round in question is the 5.7x28, and it is not remotely a rifle cartridge.
It is chambered for pistols and personal defense weapons that falls into the submachine class of weapons , but that can shoot bullet designed for armor penetration. What the Times won't tell you is that armor-piercing bullets are highly-restricted under U.S law, for sale only to the military and police. Nor will the Times tell their readers that even when these pistols are loaded with the heavily-restricted "armor piercing" bullets, these bullets utterly fail to penetrate the more advanced body armor used by police and military units, and work reliably only on lesser armor classes.
Lastly, the Times neglects to mention that their rhetorical whipping boy 5.7x28 cartridge is failing to catch on in many circles, because while it does possess some armor penetration capabilities if using the restricted ammunition, it always uses a tiny bullet, and does not have a record of reliably causing incapacitating wounds.
You've got to give it to the Times for efficiency, though; they packed so many half-truths and lies in two sentences that it took seven paragraphs to detail them all.
But the Times isn't quite does just yet.
Watch the mastery in the deceptive sentence below:
Federal agents say about 90 percent of the 12,000 pistols and rifles the Mexican authorities recovered from drug dealers last year and asked to be traced came from dealers in the United States, most of them in Texas and Arizona.
If you read this quickly as most newspaper readers would, you'd come away with the distinct impression that 90-percent of the guns recovered from drug dealers in Mexico came from the United States, which is exactly what the author wants you to understand.
It is only upon reading the sentence deeper that you would recognize that the the phrase "and asked to be traced" is the key.
Mexican authorities only ask American authorities to track the small fraction of those guns that it suspects comes from the United States. The do not ask us to trace the majority of the guns they capture that are clearly not of U.S. origin. Of the total number of guns recovered from cartels, just 17-percent came from the United States--quite a big difference from the 90-percent the y tried to trick readers into accepting.
It is really quite sad that so many journalists feel they have the right to publisher such clearly biased information as fact, but their reporting is no more pathetic than the editors and publishers that allow journalists to publish advocacy instead of news.
News organizations are dying on the vine in the United States, and the media loves to claim that the Internet is to blame. That may be true, but if it is, it is because the Internet allows the mediaÂ’s favorite fictions to be exposed, leaving their reputations—arguably their most important product" irrevocably damaged.
People wonÂ’t knowing buy damaged goods, and why should they?
Day by day, story by story, the Times justifies ever dollar it loses with another fiction that turns away another reader, and when they are gone, they will not be missed.
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As one of my college professors used to say..."There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies and statistics!"
Posted by: Lone Cactus In AZ at April 16, 2009 01:46 PM (5sGLG)
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They're certainly right that the internet is partially to blame, but to a much larger extent the problem is themselves. The mistake the MSM made was to begin thinking of themselves as an institution, rather than as a business. They have lost sight of what it is their customers are buying their product for. Their readers have always gone to them for information, but throughout their entire history they have been able to present a lopsided watered down product (all narrative and minimal substance) to the reader. They've been able to do that because they were the only convenient source of information. It may just be an unfortunate habit, picked up through exposure to an existing professional culture, but many of them seem to feel that watered down crap is the important part of their product, and the information just gets in the way.
So yeah, the Internet provides an alternative, and higher quality source of information; selling newspapers in the information age is going to require a substantially better product than they have ever had to produce in the past. So far it doesn't look like they have it in them, or even to have realized the need.
Posted by: dmoss at April 16, 2009 05:10 PM (z17GE)
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The NYT is a model of fairness compared to UPI's flat out lies. UPI omits the "of those traced" part entirely and says that 90% of all guns seized were from the US and then goes on to lie again saying that gun dealers are selling military assault rifles, not even bothering with "military style" or some such sleight of hand.
"Mexican authorities say that about 90 percent of the 12,000 pistols and rifles they recovered from drug dealers last year came from dealers in the United States, most of them in Texas and Arizona, with officials saying the cartels have been stocking up on U.S.-bought military assault rifles."
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/04/15/Mexican-cartels-buy-guns-from-US-dealers/UPI-32471239795150/
Posted by: Robert L. www.neolibertarian.com at April 16, 2009 06:10 PM (PJyLt)
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