March 16, 2007
FBI: Extremists Might Be Driving Your Kids To School, But Don't Worry About It
Yeah,
this is comforting:
Members of extremist groups have signed up as school bus drivers in the United States, counterterror officials said Friday, in a cautionary bulletin to police. An FBI spokesman said "parents and children have nothing to fear."
Asked about the alert notice, the FBI's Rich Kolko said "there are no threats, no plots and no history leading us to believe there is any reason for concern," although law enforcement agencies around the country were asked to watch out for kids' safety.
The bulletin, parts of which were read to The Associated Press, did not say how often foreign extremists have sought to acquire licenses to drive school buses, or where. It was sent Friday as part of what officials said was a routine FBI and Homeland Security Department advisory to local law enforcement.
Look, either extremists are a threat--hence the advisory--or they aren't. Informing law enforcement to watch out for known members of extremist groups driving school buses--I'll read this as terrorists until someone gives me good reason not to--and then telling parents not to worry is asinine.
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Just one more reason to homeschool.
Posted by: Mrs. PurpleRaider at March 16, 2007 07:57 PM (wnnNy)
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For sure its those radical southern baptists.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 16, 2007 09:20 PM (ol99f)
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I saw my kids' bus driver in the deli with a ham sandwich. I think we're ok.
Posted by: crosspatch at March 16, 2007 11:03 PM (y2kMG)
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Sockpuppet Censorship
Oh, the joys of being Greenwald!
In an entry to his blog on Salon.com yesterday, noted sock-puppeteer Glenn Ryan Ellers Wilson Thomas Ellensberg Greenwald attacked Charles Johnson, the face of the "pony-tailed jazz guitarist/web designer 9/11 liberal" stereotype so commonly associated with modern conservatism.
After briefly mention other denizens of the riech-wing establishment, Ellers Thomas chastised Johnson for comments left by frequent visitors in a post to Johnson's rather obscure blog about nauseated footballs.
Wrote Ryan Ellensberg:
But commenters at Little Green Footballs have not only expressed surprise, but outright support, for Mohammed's assassination plot against a former U.S. President. They are out in droves expressing sorrow that Al Qaeda did not have the opportunity to carry out its plot.
Let us first recall that LGF's Charles Johnson was one of the leaders of the Outrage Brigade driving the big "story" -- that made it into virtually every national media outlet -- of how anonymous HuffPost commenters expressed sorrow that the bombing in Afghanistan did not result in Dick Cheney's death. In her post that spawned the media coverage, Michelle Malkin touted Johnson's righteous condemnation that "this kind of sick, twisted thinking is everywhere in the 'progressive' blogosphere...And it's even sicker than it appears at first glance, because many of these freaks want to see Cheney dead so that he can't become president if someone assassinates President Bush."
Yet here are multiple comments from Johnson's standard, regular followers -- all of whom have to register as LGF users, a device Johnson uses to ban commenters of whom he disapproves -- expressing explicit support for Al Qaeda's plot against President Carter:
GREWTEG, the author of the best-selling How Would a Patriot Act? (who answered his own question by moving to another country) then provided screenshots of seven comments from six commenters, pulled from a comment thread presently 474 comments long. In the part-time Brazilian's defense, he probably completed his Salon.com entry several hours before his 10:14 AM posting time, meaning he was cherry-picking through a smaller, more representative number of comments, which at the time he completed his article was only made up of about 461 comments.
The comments, other than the 454 or so he ignored, are devastating.
The first two commenters, "buzzsawmonkey" (clearly a relative of manbearpig) and "blame canada" are in favor, at least rhetorically, of allowing Khalid Sheikh Mohammed to finish alleged assassination plots against former Presidents Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter.
The next three commenters--well, two news ones, and manbearpig buzzsawmonkey again--repeat the theme.
Glenn Wilsonberg then states:
And more commenters than one can chronicle offered the "justification" for murdering Carter; it's the same "rationale" previously provided by John Hinderaker: namely, Carter is on the side of Islamic Terrorists:
He then posts the two he/they could chronicle.
Not content to cherry-pick these seven comments from roughly 461 as being representative of the commenters, GREWTEG then decides that since Johnson hasn't deleted these comments, that he must therefore, ipso facto, QED, E Pluribus Unum, and carte blache, agree with each and every one of them! (my bold below)
Can we crank up the outraged media stories? How long do you think it will be before we hear from Howard Kurtz with a front-page Washington Post story, Wolf Blitzer and Sean Hannity with dramatic television coverage? Having blog commenters cheer on the assassination plots of U.S. officials is big, big, big news, we recently learned.
Here, one of the largest right-wing blog communities which pretends to be opposed to Al Qaeda is expressing support for Al Qaeda murder plots against former U.S. Presidents. The significance is overwhelming and self-evident, and many American journalists have shown how commendably eager they are to transcend partisan differences and rise up in righteous condemnation against this sort of "sick" bile.
And, several important factors distinguish this story from the HuffPost story, making it more meaningful. Unlike Huffington Post, which deleted the comments in question, Johnson has left them on his blog. Even more significantly, Johnson actively and regularly deletes comments he does not like, which lends some credibility to the notion that he approves of these comments, or at least does not find them sufficiently offensive to delete them, the way he does with scores of other comments.
Ah-Hah!
Take that reich-wingers!
Because Johnson does not censor each and every comment on his blog, he is therefore guilty of copious amounts of non-censorship, clearly a hanging crime under the Brazilian-American Sockpuppet Speech Act of 1798.
As we well know, responsible citizenship requires copious amounts of censorship, from censoring the networks allowed to carry debates, to stipulating acceptable public appearances by public servants.
By allowing comments on his blog that may not match his own views, Johnson clearly goes beyond the boundaries of acceptable discourse.
What does he think this is, a free country?
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CY, you had me at "Johnson's rather obscure blog." LGF is a little further down my daily blog list (and I'm not a registered lizardoid yet), but I expect to see a few nuts fall from the tree. un-Hingedness is just a minor bug on the R side, while it seems to be a feature of the L. -cp
Posted by: cold pizza at March 16, 2007 12:01 PM (VOA2U)
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Dude. Do you even
know what "censorship" is?
This incoherent post from a man with a long record of comment-deletion to his own credit.
You're a treasure, Bob.
Posted by: tookie at March 16, 2007 01:59 PM (U36mM)
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Yep, "tookie", or "Capt Howdy," or whoever you want to be today, I
do have a long record of comment deletion... all the way back to Day 1 for this blog, in November of 2004, I'm sure.
Most bloggers, no matter what they blog about, do have a long track record of comment deletion, for various reasons. The reasons vary from blog to blog, but many blogs tend to police comments that are offensive and/or profane, off topic, or exist only to sling insults... which is why you've had a comment deleted before. Apparently that hurt your feelings.
I'm really broken up over that.
Really.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at March 16, 2007 02:44 PM (9y6qg)
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BDS-CV
Charles Krauthammer has a brutal column up in today's
Washington Post called
Diagnosis Cheney, focusing on a hit piece by Michelle Cottle in the liberal
New Republic. The thrust of Cottle's article, apparently, is an attempt to diagnose the Vice President as being mentally ill because of his history of cardiac disease.
Krauthammer, a real psychiatrist in addition to being a political columnist, guts the "evidence" provided by Cottle, evidence that is so flimsy that any coherent layman would readily recognize as political, and not psychiatric in nature.
Well, that isn't exactly true. Krauthammer does amusingly suggest that the 1,900 word New Republic article may reveal an underlying syndrome from which Cottle may be suffering.
I was at first inclined to pass off Cottle's piece as a weird put-on -- when people become particularly deranged about this administration, it's hard to tell -- but her earnest and lengthy piling on of medical research about dementia and cardiovascular disease suggests that she is quite serious.
And supremely silly. Such silliness has a pedigree, mind you. It is in the great tradition of the 1964 poll of psychiatrists that found Barry Goldwater clinically paranoid. Goldwater having become over the years the liberals' favorite conservative (because of his libertarianism), nary a word is heard today about him being mentally ill or about that shameful election-year misuse of medical authority by the psychiatrists who responded to the poll. The disease they saw in Goldwater was, in fact, deviation from liberalism, which remains today so incomprehensible to some that it must be explained by resort to arterial plaques and cardiac ejection fractions.
If there's a diagnosis to be made here, it is this: yet another case of the one other syndrome I have been credited with identifying, a condition that addles the brain of otherwise normal journalists and can strike without warning -- Bush Derangement Syndrome, Cheney Variant.
If memeorandum.com is correct, there has thus far been three blog entries posted on the Krauthammer column, with conservative responses provided by Betsy Newmark and Sister Toldjah to date, with an post by liberal Don Q at TPM Cafe be the only attempt at a liberal response thus far.
And an amusing post it is, with Don trotting out another long-running platitude in rebuttal to Krauthammer, one that can best be summarized as, "because of the hypocrisy!" (copyright Jeff Goldstein):
From Don Q:
But you know, psycho- I mean psychiatrist-columnist Krauthammer himself likes to conduct remote diagnoses. Back in May 2004, Al Gore called on Rumsfeld and Tenet to resign, and criticized the conduct of the war in Iraq.
And our buddy Krauthammer, on Fox News with Brit Hume, said that Al Gore was "off his lithium." Lithium, of course, is used to treat heavy mental conditions like bipolar disorder.
Don't you see the obvious brilliance of Don Q? Krauthammer is a hypocrite because, he, too, made a long-distance diagnosis!
But Don Q's analysis really isn't that intelligent, is it?
Whether you look at this example, or others that he cites, Don purposefully conflates Krauthammer's flippant metaphorical comments as a political columnist into being serious psychiatric evaluations, which they clearly and decidedly are not meant to be.
Far from showing Krauthammer to be a hypocrite, his post merely goes to show that Don Q lacks the basic mental agility to note that Krauthammer's political commentary and his psychiatric practice are two distinct facets of an accomplished multi-dimensional life. To accomplish his political goals, Don Q purposefully ignores reality to promote his agenda, which amusingly enough, is precisely what Krauthammer catches Cottle doing.
Perhaps this suggests that Don Q should quit tilting at columnists, and see a professional to diagnose his own condition, which seems to be Bush Derangement Syndrome—Krauthammer Variant.
I jest, of course.
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The morons probably think Pelosi would become VP if Cheney were to get waxed.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 16, 2007 02:19 PM (ol99f)
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See ... here's the thing ... Bush will be gone in 21 months. What are they going to do when they can't blame everything on Bush? I imagine they will continue to blame Blame Bush for every ill in the world for at least a decade after he is gone.
Posted by: crosspatch at March 16, 2007 11:20 PM (y2kMG)
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March 15, 2007
Learn the Tech, Or Take Up Baking
As you've probably come to understand by now, reporters that don't understand the subject matter they write about really irritate me. Enter the Associated Press'
Kim Gamel (my bold):
The U.S. military said the attack against the Americans began when a bomb went off as a U.S. unit was returning from a search operation, Moments later, a second bomb exploded, killing the four and wounding two other soldiers.
A demolition team that searched the site after the attack found an explosively formed projectile, a type of high-tech bomb the U.S. military believes is being supplied by Iran in support of Shiite militias. The device was detonated by the team.
This is an explosively formed projectile:
It is a spent bullet, an expended hunk of metal, no longer a threat.
What Gamel meant to write that they detonated an explosively formed penetrator, one of these:
This is a live explosive device, and a very dangerous one. This is what EOD team destroyed, not the inert slug of metal as Gamel misreported.
It's rather disappointing that we can't trust a professional war reporter for the world's largest news organization to get such important distinctions correct, but a disappointment that is now hardly surprising.
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Funny thing is, Gamel was one of the few AP-Iraq reporters who bothered to check out Jamil Hussein's stories. I wish she'd be more precise.
(She is a she, right? I know a guy named Kim.)
Posted by: see-dubya at March 16, 2007 07:02 AM (7RPwS)
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I'm not surprised.
These are people who write of semi-automatic pistols calling them "revolvers;" or id a naked bullet as a "cartridge," and more frequently vice versa, and other such ignorance.
"Center Median" AAAAAhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!
"Prior Record" YECH!!!!!!
"Rate of Speed" PLEEEEEEEEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!
"One of the most distinctive jet fighters of all time, the F-14 Tomcat was officially retired in Navy ceremonies today. Its career spanned over 30 years since its inception in the mid-70s."
Span MEANS "stretch/extend OVER" for crying out loud! It doesn't need help! "...spanned MORE than 30 years..." would have been much better,
Which
"Authorities said they were dropping 18 care packages in the area, which each will include clothing, a wool blanket, gloves, waterproof overalls, flares, a flashlight, a hand-warmer and rations."
Return back
"A video of the cone-shaped Goddard vehicle shows it climbing to about 85m (285ft) before returning back to Earth."
One wonders what this writer thinks "return" means. Was the rocket "returning forward" before "returning back?"
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Yes, I've started a file of these inanities.
Hello News Writers?
Words MEAN things. Words are your ONLY tools. Please learn what they mean, and how to use them.
And, if you're covering a war, please at least learn the basics. Why on earth would you want to blow up a spent projectile?
It's that bullet/cartridge thing. It requires some nuanced thinking, I know, but you can do it.
Posted by: Bill Smith at March 16, 2007 01:10 PM (UvXVP)
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Lawbreaker?
It matters little to me who is in power at the time, but we need to have a unified national voice, and that means the offical federal government representatives, whoever they are at the time, should be the only ones negotiating with foreign powers on behalf of the United States.
Period.
I'm not sure that what Howard Dean admits to is illegal, but to my layman's eye, his actions seem dangerously close (h/t phin).
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When the hell is Bush going to grow a pair of balls and arrest these people?
Bring on Fred Thompson.
Posted by: 1sttofight at March 15, 2007 02:55 PM (nOcEZ)
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This is the biggest thing that disappoints me about Bush. He never, ever confronts these ludicrous things head-on. He is losing it in the polls because people don't know the real story - and only he and his admin can tell that. Another case in point - the firing of the US attorneys. Yea - maybe they did not do everything by the book...but I sure as heck would be making a big stink about the fact that Clinton fired 93 US Attorneys in one fell swoop in 1993 and nobody had to hold hearings about that.
Posted by: Specter at March 15, 2007 05:32 PM (ybfXM)
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a) He's a democrat.
b) Treason is the new patriotism.
a + b = no action
Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 15, 2007 06:14 PM (ol99f)
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I like George Bush! He reminds me so much of Jacques Chirac. Feels like home...
Posted by: leFrancais at March 15, 2007 06:21 PM (87cbz)
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Specter:
Clinton replaced the USAs at the beginning of his term, as did Bush 41 before him and other presidents before them. That's SOP at the beginning of an administration.
Midterm firings are not standard.
The firings, however, are not the issue. The lies and secrecy are.
Posted by: Doc Washboard at March 15, 2007 08:46 PM (6++Yt)
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The attorneys serve at the pleasure of the president. If the president wants to replace them for political purposes, he should go ahead and do it. He just needs to grow a set of balls and do it openly, facing whatever comes from public opinion.
Posted by: Doc Washboard at March 15, 2007 08:59 PM (6++Yt)
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Iranian Defector May Soon Be Wanted for Mass Murder
Ali Reza Asghari, the former Iranian deputy defense minister and General who is thought to have
defected after years of spying on the Iranian government, is one of
six Iranians cited in an international arrest warrant that may be issued by Interpol later this month for the 1994 bombing of a Buenos Aires Jewish Center that took 85 lives.
The six concerned are Imad Fayez Mughniyah, Ali Fallahijan, Mohsen Rabbani, Ahmad Reza Asghari, Ahmad Vahidi and Mohsen Rezai.
Applications for the arrest of Ali Akbar Velayati and Hadi Soleimanpour, as well as Mr Rafsanjani, were rejected.
No-one has ever been convicted of the 1994 bombing - the worst terror attack in Argentine history - and the government has admitted failures in its initial investigation.
Last year it said it believed Iran ordered the attack, and militant group Hezbollah carried it out.
Asghari is though to have been instrumental in founding Hezbollah in the 1980s, and was a key liasion between Hezbollah and the Iranian government.
The "Mr Rafsanjani" referenced in the article is former Iranian President Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani.
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All the more reason, I would think, that he'd defect and give up lots of goods on the sinking Iranian regime in order to collect a pardon for past crimes. If we see more of this, and if subsequent reports that hint this is the case, it gives me cause to think that doubt is filtering through many echelons of government in Iran.
It almost makes me think the world outside Iran should be compiling lists of Iranian criminals just to push things along. It might even be good to footnote the lists with "Last ones out with duplicate info won't get a 'Get out of Jail Free' card."
Posted by: Dusty at March 15, 2007 05:50 PM (GJLeQ)
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Gore Effect Hits Middle East
Ah...
Lebanon in April.
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There's no doubt that the earth is warming. The question is whether carbon emissions are causing it or not.
Posted by: Lex Steele at March 15, 2007 01:13 PM (7IB7k)
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Stop breathing. I'll let you know if the Earth gets cooler.
Posted by: BohicaTwentyTwo at March 15, 2007 01:32 PM (oC8nQ)
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I believe our carbon emissions are a drop in the bucket, most of the warming/cooling is controlled by the big yellow ball in the sky. The (i)warming(/i) debate is moot (to me). Pollution on the other hand is tangable and we do cause that. Take the money they are wasting on seeing if cow farts cause warming and put it into cleaning up farm waste instead and we will be getting somewhere.
Posted by: Retired Navy at March 15, 2007 02:01 PM (WGcw3)
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Hmmm, I'll never get the itallics/bold thinggy right.
Posted by: Retired Navy at March 15, 2007 02:02 PM (WGcw3)
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Retired Navy,
Let's see - we can see that () doesn't work, let's see if BBcode will:
italics
or straight html:
italics
Ah, according to the Preview, straight HTML using the angle brackets (> and it's opposite) does.
Posted by: Jeff at March 15, 2007 03:24 PM (yiMNP)
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Another Gore effect seems to be his high school teacher type supporters feel the need to bribe students to sign Alberts online petition.
"March 23rd is when he goes in front of Congress, Al Gore Dot Com" says Tom Knudson, a teacher at Northrop High School, encouraging his students, who watched the film, to sign an online petition supporting Gore's initiative in exchange for extra credit.
http://www.indianasnewscenter.com/Story.aspx?type=ln&NStoryID=5464
Posted by: Dave at March 15, 2007 04:19 PM (KfqZZ)
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The problem is not the "global warming" that has taken place since the 70's (remember the "global cooling"?) but the lack of proper perspective in matters of climate. We are currently in a colder climate than at the time of the roman empire or the middle ages... That leads to policies that are downright silly e.g. Al Gore.
Posted by: leFrancais at March 15, 2007 04:39 PM (87cbz)
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And don't forget that Al spends about 20 times per month in electricity than any normal person....
Posted by: Specter at March 15, 2007 05:43 PM (ybfXM)
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Not to mention its the same for natural gas, Specter. Al Gore is dangerous in more ways than one.
CY, I'm going to take a guess and say you flipped one too many pages on your calendar a couple of weeks ago.
Posted by: Dusty at March 15, 2007 06:00 PM (GJLeQ)
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Emails Suggest Attorney Firings Were Legit
So says
Patterico:
These e-mails confirm my conclusion from yesterday: the media is manufacturing a phony scandal out of these firings, and piggybacking it onto the genuine scandal of the Justice DepartmentÂ’s misleading testimony to Congress about the responsibility for the firings. If these e-mails are given a fair reading, they support the idea that U.S. Attorneys were pushed out largely for legitimate reasons relating to the performance of the USAs in question.
It is starting to sound like this furor here is probably more hype than substance. Not that this will placate or convince the more rabid denizens on the far left, mind you, who hold the Bush Adminstration personally responsible for 9/11, global warming, and cooties.
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CY, what's going on? Did you delete my comment? If so, why? It was calm and factual, whether or not you agreed with it. I had thought better of you.
Posted by: Lex Steele at March 15, 2007 12:49 PM (7IB7k)
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Are you familiar with the term "comment spam"?
It is defined as copying the exact same comment from one comment section and posting it on another, which is precisely what you did.
Please don't do it again.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at March 15, 2007 01:15 PM (9y6qg)
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I'll just quote Chuck Schumer then:
"Here are some of the falsehoods we've been told that are now unraveling.
"First, we were told that the seven of the eight U.S. attorneys were fired for performance reasons.
"It now turns out this was a falsehood, as the glowing performance evaluations attest.
"Second, we were told by the attorney general that he would, quote, 'never, ever make a change for political reasons.'
"It now turns out that this was a falsehood, as all the evidence makes clear that this purge was based purely on politics, to punish prosecutors who were perceived to be too light on Democrats or too tough on Republicans.
"Third, we were told by the attorney general that this was just an overblown personnel matter.
"It now turns out that far from being a low-level personnel matter, this was a longstanding plan to exact political vendettas or to make political pay-offs.
"Fourth, we were told that the White House was not really involved in the plan to fire U.S. attorneys. This, too, turns out to be false.
"Harriet Miers was one of the masterminds of this plan, as demonstrated by numerous e-mails made public today. She communicated extensively with Kyle Sampson about the firings of the U.S. attorneys. In fact, she originally wanted to fire and replace the top prosecutors in all 93 districts across the country.
"Fifth, we were told that Karl Rove had no involvement in getting his protege appointed U.S. attorney in Arkansas.
"In fact, here is a letter from the Department of Justice. Quote: 'The department is not aware of Karl Rove playing any role in the decision to appoint Mr. Griffin.'
"It now turns out that this was a falsehood, as demonstrated by Mr. Sampson's own e-mail. Quote: 'Getting him, Griffin, appointed was important to Harriet, Karl, et cetera.'
"Sixth, we were told to change the Patriot Act was an innocent attempt to fix a legal loophole, not a cynical strategy to bypass the Senate's role in serving as a check and balance.
"It was Senator Feinstein who discovered that issue. She'll talk more about it.
"So there has been misleading statement after misleading statement -- deliberate misleading statements. And we haven't gotten to the bottom of this yet, but believe me, we will pursue it.
Posted by: Lex Steele at March 15, 2007 01:34 PM (7IB7k)
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Seems to me that quoting Chuck Schumer could also qualify as comment spam....
Andrew McCarthy has a
good column on this issue over at National Review. He ends with:
Meanwhile, Attorney General Gonzales’s “when do I run out of feet to shoot myself in?” performance has been more than matched by congressional hypocrisy, especially from Democrats. Most jaw-dropping, but hardly unique, is Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. Seeking the presidency, she is pandering to her Bush-hating base about the firings. But, when her husband took office in 1993, he terminated virtually all of the sitting U.S. attorneys.
It was an act of sheer political muscle and naked political patronage. It mattered not the slightest bit to the media that many very fine U.S. attorneys — some presiding over very sensitive, politically charged cases (including one in Arkansas involving the Clintons) — lost their jobs. Clinton had the power to do it and he wanted his own people in. Period. And you know what? He was entitled. If a Bush-41 appointee had botched a major case, that would have redounded to Clinton’s detriment. If the administration wanted to focus on health-care fraud or other Democrat enforcement priorities, the president wanted to be sure each U.S. attorney would be, yes, loyal to those objectives. Loyalty — not skill, not ethics — was the difference between staying on or being fired.
So we have classic Washington farce. The politicians on Capitol Hill theatrically castigate the politicians in the administration for making political decisions about political appointees based on political considerations. The politicians in the administration reply, “That would never happen,” before conceding that it precisely happened … without their knowledge, of course. And the political press is aghast.
The President can fire any U.S. Attorney for any reason - maybe he doesn't like the color of their ties. DOJ was stupid because they tried to insert a "lofty" reason instead of just saying that the attornies "wore the wrong color ties".
The President was within his rights to replace these people. None of the replaced attorney's were investigating him. This is a politically manufactured "crisis" that is way out of proportion to the actual events.
Posted by: SouthernRoots at March 15, 2007 02:06 PM (EsOdX)
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Clinton replaced all 93 attorneys at the beginning of his presidency, as many presidents have done. He replaced two thereafter, one for allegedly biting a topless dancer and the other for choking someone on camera.
This administration fired the Carol Lam, the attorney who was in the midst of following up on the Duke Cunningham corruption investigation, which included an investigation of (R) Jerry Lewis.
John McKay, a Republican US Atty from Seattle, says he did not see any evidence of malfeasance in his investigation of the recount that put Washington State governor Gregoir (D) over Dino Rossi (R). Subsequently Harriet Miers accused him of "mishandling" the recount investigation. Why on earth would a Republican suppress evidence of Democratic vote fraud?
Lam and McKay received 'glowing' performance reviews up until they were fired. As above, the administration has changed its story and outright lied on several points.
John Sununu (R) New Hampshire has asked for Gonzalez to step down.
This is dishonorable behavior on the part of this administration and its enablers, not a partisan manufactured crisis.
Posted by: Lex Steele at March 15, 2007 03:29 PM (7IB7k)
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What was different about how Clinton replaced the 93 was that he demanded they submit their resignations and clear out their offices within 10 days. All other presidents had longer transition periods that staggered the replacements versus an immediate wholesale changeout.
But, it was Clinton's perogative to do this.
Under what conditions would you accept Bushs decision to fire these USAs?
From whom would Bush need to get permission? Should it be held to a vote from Congress?
Would he only need approval from the Judiciary Committee?
Maybe Chuck Schumer is the one to ask.
Who gave Bill Clinton the permission to fire all the USAs?
As for McKay, there was a pile of irregularites with the 2004 election. Several people sent McKay information and neither McKay nor the FBI spoke to them about their information. The impression is that McKay did not even investigate to see if there was fire where there was smoke.
Posted by: SouthernRoots at March 15, 2007 03:58 PM (EsOdX)
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SouthernRoots:
What was different about how Clinton replaced the 93 was that he demanded they submit their resignations and clear out their offices within 10 days. All other presidents had longer transition periods that staggered the replacements versus an immediate wholesale changeout.
I don't understand what you are trying to prove here.
Under what conditions would you accept Bushs decision to fire these USAs?
The same reason anyone should be fired: poor performance, illegal activities, etc.
As for McKay, there was a pile of irregularites with the 2004 election.
I'm going to take word of a Bush-appointed Republican USA about this over yours. He's a Republican and would have every reason to pursue Dem vote fraud.
Posted by: Lex Steele at March 15, 2007 04:29 PM (7IB7k)
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But Lex,
When Clinton fired 93 it wasn't for poor performance was it? It was simply that he wanted his own people in there. Simple. Not only that, but the US Atty from Ala that was handling the Whitewater investigation got fired and was replaced with a Clinton friend. Add to that the US atty who was investigating Rostenkowski was fired also. But it wasn't political, right? Get a real life.
BTW Lexy - care to plot the Iraq casualty trend line again...just for the last five months? LOL. You might actually be surprised....
Posted by: Specter at March 15, 2007 05:48 PM (ybfXM)
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Lex - you have totally missed the point. USAs are POLITICAL appointments. They serve at the pleasure of the President. Causing the President
displeasure can result in them being fired. Other "normal" firing reasons should also get them canned, but it is legitimate to fire them for lesser reasons.
Maybe me, or someone else in the VRWC, put a call into Bush and told him that we were unhappy with McKay's lack of action (as far as we could see). Maybe Bush agreed with us and decided that McKay wasn't serving the president's priorities.
By the way, it was a Democrat controlled organization that had all the irregularities with the election, but that was a sideshow. Regardless of who is running the election show, if irregularities are rampant - they should be investigated, the whole idea being to have a clean, legal election system for everyone.
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Bush '41 replaced all 93 US Attorneys too. I don't have a problem with that either.
You think it's okay for the administration to fire a US Atty with good performance reviews who is pursuing allegations against congressmen in the same party, and then lie repeatedly about it. I don't. Let's chalk it up to another difference of opinion.
Here's you proving that a rising casualty average demonstrates a dropping
casualty rate:
using the 5 months previous is an average of 3.03 per day. But if you go back 12 months, the average drops to 2.44. If you go back 24 months, the average is 2.36.
That's all anyone needs to say to you in any debate. You don't understand the concept of averages (though to be fair you do seem to be able to compute them). You don't merit a place at the table.
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Edwards Campaign Not Poisoned; World Indifferent
I can't for the life of me figure out why someone thought John Edwards was worthy of even a fake anthrax attack, but all the same, it happened yesterday at his campaign headquarters
in Chapel Hill:
The white powder in an envelope discovered Wednesday at the national headquarters of Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards did not contain anthrax.
The campaign office was reopening today, Deputy Campaign Manager Jonathan Prince said.
“The test results of the white powdery substance received yesterday have come back negative, and the authorities have informed us that it is safe to return to the office," Prince said in a statement this morning.
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A woman working in Edwards' campaign office in Southern Village found the powder at 4 p.m. as she opened mail for the former senator. She immediately threw the white legal-size envelope into a nearby mail bin and rushed to wash her hands, said Jane Cousins, a spokeswoman for the Chapel Hill police.
Police were called to the office at 410 Market St. in the mix of offices, shops and homes in the southern Chapel Hill community. Federal, county and regional investigators were called to assist.
By late Wednesday, the envelope had been taken to the parking lot of the Chapel Hill Police Department several miles away on Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard.
White powder in letters has been associated with anthrax since an attack in 2001 killed five people and sickened 17. The substance was mailed to lawmakers on Capitol Hill and members of the news media in New York and Florida just weeks after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
The Edwards campaign worker did not know to whom the envelope was addressed or where it was from, investigators said. Chapel Hill police said they didn't know whether there was any written message in the envelope.
To date, IÂ’ve seen no mention of this story outside of the local media or in the larger blogs. I guess a fake anthrax attack on Edwards just isnÂ’t worth commenting on.
I've written the several of the law enforcement agencies investigating this incident to see if they could provide further information about the attack. Specifically, I've asked if there was a note or letter in the envelope communicating a possible motive for the attack, and I've also asked whether the letter came through the U.S. Mail or a courier service, such as FedEx or UPS. I also asked if the letter bore a postmark or originating address that might indicate where the letter was mailed from.
I'll update this post if they respond.
Update: The FBI has responded:
The FBI is conducting a federal investigation regarding the suspicious letter sent to the office of John Edwards. We are investigating for any potential WMD issues/violations, and due to its ongoing status, no further comments are being provided at this time.
This is a joint, cooperative investigation between the FBI, Chapel Hill Police Department, Chapel Hill Fire Department, and the Orange County Public Health Department.
I imagine that the other agencies involved will also refuse comment while the investigation is on-going.
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...maybe they were powdered carbon credits???. I do have to say, if I were a certified loon, which i am not, Edwards could not crack my top 100 list of people who need powder mailed to them. Sorry, he just couldn't cut it.
Posted by: markm at March 15, 2007 10:30 AM (hVOTO)
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It's still wrong no matter to whom it was addressed to. The idiot that did it needs time to contemplate his wrongdoing in the iron hilton.
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Khalid Sheik Mohammed Confesses
I have very little to add to what has already been said about Mohammed's confession, and think Jules Crittenden covers my disgust with Mohammed's self-aggrandizing
quite well:
ItÂ’s all a matter of language and perspective. WeÂ’re really just the same. Until you remember that virtually all his intended targets in the Twin Towers were civilians. Every one of his intended targets in Bali and Mombasa was an innocent vacationer. All his targets on all those airplanes. It is inequivocably murder carried out not to achieve any military objective, rather for whatever political or symply psychological advantage and economic damage might be achieved by terror and chaos. He did it to impress people. He wraps himself in history and distortion and calls it war. It is revolting, and it is bullshit, but it is his right. He is allowed to speak and say whatever he wants in advance of the judgments that await him. And we can look at this vile filth, and consider it for what it is worth.
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Four al Qaeda Militants Sentenced to Death
Now, if they can only capture the three of them that are still on the run, they might be able to
carry out the sentence:
Jordan's military court on Thursday sentenced to death four Iraqi al-Qaida militants charged with terror attacks on Jordanians in Iraq. Of the four, only one is in custody while the other three remain at large and were tried in absentia.
The court also handed down sentences to 10 others in the case also at large and believed to be in hiding in Iraq ranging from 15 years in jail with hard labor to life imprisonment.
The group's alleged mastermind, Ziad Khalaf Raja al-Karbouly, was charged with leading the group of 14 in plotting attacks on trucks with Jordanian license plates on Iraqi roads to murder those on board.
As things continue to fall apart for al Qaeda in Iraq, I find that the execution of these death sentences are quite likely, whether or not these men ever see a Jordanian jail first.
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Clinton Won't Withdraw From Iraq
This won't endear her to the netroots, but then, what could? For those Democrats that have a toe in reality, however, Hillary just showed that she may be the first grown-up running for the Democratic Presidential nomination. Well,
almost:
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton foresees a “remaining military as well as political mission” in Iraq, and says that if elected president, she would keep a reduced but significant military force there to fight Al Qaeda, deter Iranian aggression, protect the Kurds and possibly support the Iraqi military.
In a half-hour interview on Tuesday in her Senate office, Mrs. Clinton said the scaled-down American military force that she would maintain in Iraq after taking office would stay off the streets in Baghdad and would no longer try to protect Iraqis from sectarian violence — even if it descended into ethnic cleansing.
It is good to see that Hillary recognized the need to help support the Iraqi government, but her statement about not protecting Iraqis from sectarian violence, "even if it descended into ethnic cleansing," is troubling.
If "President Hillary" is serious that she would take no action in the event of an attempted genocide, then her behavior would verge upon criminal. If, however, Clinton is merely issuing "tough love" to encourage Sunni, Shia, and Kurd to work together, then her pronouncement makes far more practical sense.
It will be interesting to see how or if the other Democratic candidates will try to shift their positions as they watch Hilliary outmanuver them to the electable middle.
Update: Captain Ed critiques Clinton's statement more harshly.
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Hey, don't we all remember the Clinton Doctrine? Remember how it worked in places like Rwanda and Kosovo? This is just the latest chapter in the Clinton Legacy...
Posted by: fmfnavydoc at March 14, 2007 10:44 PM (I6QiV)
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Stop me if you've heard this one.
Remember this hillbillery?
Hillary Urges Start of Troop Pullout in 90 Days
By Jeralyn, Section War In Iraq
Posted on Sat Feb 17, 2007 at 05:28:14 PM EST
Tags: Hillary Clinton (all tags)
On Hillary Clinton's website today, she unveils a new message on Iraq.
U.S. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, the early front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination, has called for a 90-day deadline to start pulling American troops from Iraq.
"Now it's time to say the redeployment should start in 90 days or the Congress will revoke authorization for this war," the New York senator said in a video on her campaign Web site, repeating a point included in a bill she introduced on Friday.
Two faced Liar pukes up whatever this donk thinks you want to hear!
Hillary also has a clear message for President Bush:
"If George Bush doesn't end the war before he leaves office, when I'm president, I will," Clinton said in the video.
More...
How is this Hillary message different from the last one?
At a January 17 news conference after visiting Iraq, Clinton repeated her call for a phased redeployment as a way of pressing the Iraqi government to shoulder more responsibility for security. But she stopped short then of proposing a deadline for doing so.
FLIP FLOP FLIP FLOP!!!
Remind you of anyone?
Posted by: Dan at March 14, 2007 11:52 PM (1Q8ID)
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Screw those little brown people. I mean, like, do they vote in our elections? Probably a bunch of right-wingers anyway. Ain't that right, Hillary?
I excerpted and linked at 2007.03.15 Surrenderpolitik update.
Posted by: Bill Faith at March 15, 2007 02:48 AM (n7SaI)
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would no longer try to protect Iraqis from sectarian violence — even if it descended into ethnic cleansing
Hey, what a little genocide among friends?
Posted by: phin at March 15, 2007 07:51 AM (CQcil)
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Another highly-calculated statement from Hillary. I'm sure she knows exactly what she's said before, what she meant this to say, and how it'll play out next. Means nothing since every word coming out of her mouth is suspect, but it'll do what she wants it to do.
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You Lost Another One?
I owe the French an apology. Until now, I thought that France was the only nation capable of losing a war that they were not fighting.
According to YNET News, yet another senior Iranian officer has gone missing:
Three weeks ago the Iranian armed forces command in Teheran lost contact with a senior officer who had been serving in Iraq with the al-Quds unit of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps, according to a senior Iranian official cited in the Wednesday edition of the London-based Arabic daily al-Sharq al-Awsat.
The Iranian source said that it is still unclear why contact with the officer, Colonel Amir Muhammad Shirazi, was lost. "It is possible that the American forces in Iraq arrested him along with a group of 13 Iranian military and intelligence officials," he said, adding that this is just one of the scenarios being investigated by Tehran.
Of course, this begs the question, "What was a senior Iranian al-Quds force commander doing in Iraq if he wasn't supporting the insurgency?" Don't expect the NY Times to dig too deeply into the existence of Colonel Amir Muhammad Shirazi, much less his disappearance.
The article also claims that another Iranian colonel was sentenced to death by an Iranian court for collaborating with American forces in the war Iran is not waging in Iraq, and that "dozens" of Iranian officers have also defected.
These allegations should be taken with a shaker of salt until they can be confirmed, but if these allegations are correct, Iran is hemorrhaging both intelligence and operatives at an alarming rate.
Update: This is too rich.
I picked up a link from Salon.com's Blog Report, and now instead of discussing the disappearing Iranian officers that were the subject of the post, I have Salon's liberal readers attempting to defend the 20th Century accomplishments of the French military.
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"You Lost Another One?" Is that a Red October reference?
Posted by: BohicaTwentyTwo at March 14, 2007 12:30 PM (oC8nQ)
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You do recognize that insulting the French as a nation of cowards is pretty low considering that they lost 212,000 men fighting the Germans in WWII and 1,397,800 fighting them in WWI as our ally while our loses in these wars, especially cosidered in relation to population, were tiny--even if you don't count the significant civilian deaths, the French lost 3.5% of their people 1914-1918 and 1.3% 1939-1945. America has never had to suffer like that.
Before you make another dumb anti-French joke, please bear in mind how much of a price they paid fighting on our side.
Posted by: Jim Harrison at March 14, 2007 02:05 PM (EBYJI)
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You're claiming that in WWI and WWII the french lost hundreds of thousands fighting "on our side"? It would be more honest to say that we were fighting "on their side", seing how it was
their very existance as a country that was at stake.
They weren't our ally, we were theirs.
Posted by: brando at March 14, 2007 02:14 PM (uZ35s)
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brando,
Like how the French were "fighting on our side" for our survival during the French and Indian War?
Like the saying goes, "if it weren't for the French, people like you would be speaking proper English".
Posted by: Robert at March 14, 2007 02:42 PM (VTtVl)
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I don't get this. WW1 we won, WW2 we won, Indochina we lost but we fought, Algeria we won but That @#$%%^ de Gaulle abandoned the Algerians anyway. The war on terror we are in process of winning (see French special forces in Afghanistan) so what is it ? Sorry but the memory of my 2 Verdun vet grampas and resistance fighter dad prompts me to ask...
Posted by: leFrancais at March 14, 2007 03:00 PM (87cbz)
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Jim, I never said they were cowards, I just said they were militarily incompetent. If one word describes the French military experience of the 20th century better than "incompetent" that word would be "Chauchat." I'll let you Google that on your own.
By listing their casualties, all you have enumerated in their ability to stop bullets, and many of those casualties can certainly be attributed to incompetence in French military leadership and tactics, which was, you know,
the point of my comment.
leFrancais, not to twist the screws too deep, but you "won" WWI because of the British and Americans coming to your aid. You lost in WWII in less than a month (May-June, 1940), and you "won" only after the British and Americans once again did the bulk of the fighting to retake France and conquer Germany. To beat Germany, we killed over 19,500 French soliders fighting for the enemy.
Funny how selective our memories are, when we want them too be...
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In spring 1940 Gal. Petain called the Brits to honor their commitment to the war by putting more aircrafts on the line as the air war was destroying the allied ground forces. The answer was a withdrawal of the RAF from France this was followed in July by the attack at harbor of the French fleet in North Africa, 1,297 French soldiers were killed by their "friend", with allies like these who needs enemies...
Posted by: leFrancais at March 14, 2007 03:29 PM (87cbz)
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Jim, WW2 is not the same as the French and Indian War. You're about 200 years off. hahahaha. Jim = pwned.
Posted by: brando at March 14, 2007 04:46 PM (uZ35s)
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Gee...I thought this thread was about the General that Iran lost somewhere in Iraq.
Posted by: Specter at March 14, 2007 05:32 PM (ybfXM)
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He might be supporting the Shiite government/militia rather than the Sunni-led insurgency. That's of course if, unlike the President and his advisors, you care to acknowledge the difference.
Posted by: ray alexander at March 14, 2007 06:57 PM (epZs4)
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You guys need to quit bashing the French. Napoléon Bonaparte was a helluva guy and a proven winner. Well except for that whole syphilis thing and Waterloo. But everybody has one or two quirks / missteps.
Viva la Francis!!!
Posted by: phin at March 15, 2007 08:07 AM (CQcil)
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Some need a refresher course in history.
First, WWI. There would not have been a WWI if the French had not felt obligated to full fill there treaty with Russia despite the stupidity of the situation. Austria had done the same thing in the Balkins that we did some 80 years later. Russia responded by moblizing the troops and France then felt it necessary to do the same. If they had said stop at some point, then the war likely could have been avoided. But that is doubtfull as they really wanted to get back at the Germans for the Franco-Prussian war. When we entered the war, the French were beat. If not for a few Marine units, the whole thing would have been a German victory or at least a better result in the subsequent treaty discussions. As it was the French brought about WWII with their very stupid demands of the beaten Germany.
With WWII the French immediately roled over and died. If the English had not distroyed the fleet, then it would have been German. As it was the British begged the French to sail to GB but their honor would not allow it. Subsequent to the surrender they were an ally of Germany and actively fought against the US and Britian in North Africa. They did the minimal amount to free France after the invasion. They certainly went overboard in the treatment and cruelty to the Jews while "occupied".
So if any nation deserves derision, it is France.
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For those not acquainted with the history of french warfare, a brief primer can be found here:
Concise French Military History
http://silflayhraka.blogspot.com/2003_01_19_silflayhraka_archive.html#90229835
Posted by: ef at March 15, 2007 10:31 AM (BpCQY)
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Napoleon was Corsican, not French. He grew up speaking Italian. France's previous military hero was Joan of Arc, and she wound up burned at the stake. The only ultimately successful French military leader I can think of was Charles Martel, back in the 8th century when the Franks were still a (mostly) Germanic tribe. At some point, the Franks turned into the French, and a nation of fierce warriors became a nation of cheese-eating surrender monkeys.
I'm sure that somewhere in the bowels of the Pentagon staffers are working out plans to take out France's nuclear capabilities when, not if, it finally falls into Dar-al-Islam. Any hope I had that the French would regain their sense of self-preservation died after they surrendered to a bunch of juvenile delinquents throwing rocks and setting cars on fire.
As for the Iranians, I'm sure the more rational members of the Revolutionary Guards are realizing what any military historian could have told them: When a Western army and a non-Western army meet, the non-Western "soldiers" usually either surrender or die, unless they're fighting the French. Since the French are busy hiding from the Taliban in Afganistan, and surrendering to jihadis at home, it's American and British troops that the "nonexistent" Iranians in Iraq are dealing with.
Plus, the average jihadi doesn't have to worry about Saudi Arabia or Yemen being invaded because of his actions. Iran, on the other hand, would have been invaded instead of Iraq if Saddam hadn't kept poking the US in the eye for over ten years, and the Guards know it. The less insane members of the military (defined as those who don't think the Mahdi will come down from Heaven and save them at the last minute) are probably doing everything in their power to keep that from happening, even commiting treason if necessary.
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On the Gonzalez Mess
While I've tried to keep up with my reading on the subject, you might note that I haven't posted yet on the U.S. Attorney's story. Quite frankly, it has me confused over whether it is really important or not, but I feel somewhat better this morning when I discovered (via Ann Althouse blogging at
Instapundit), that the far more capable legal mind of Orin Kerr is
also unsure:
On a more serious note, I haven't written about the U.S. Attorney's story because I'm having a hard time figuring out just how big a deal it is. Parts of it are obviously very troubling: I was very disturbed to learn of the Domenici calls, for example. More broadly, I have longrunning objections to the extent to which DOJ is under White House control, objections that this story helps bring to the fore (although my objections are based on my views of sound policy, not on law).
At the same time, several parts of the story seem overblown. U.S. Attorneys are political appointees who serve at the pleasure of the President, and the press seems to overlook that in a lot of its reporting. Also, I know one or two of the Administration figures named in some of the stories, and based on my knowledge of them and their character (although no secret details of the story — I have not spoken with anyone about it) I have a feeling that they're getting a bad rap.
So in the end I don't quite know where I come out based on what we know. Without knowing where I come out, I don't feel I have much helpful to add. I realize that this may mean I am missing a big story. Perhaps this will prove to be a simply huge scandal, and in time it will seem odd that we weren't all blogging about it. But I don't know what I'm supposed to do when I read a story and I'm not sure what to make of it.
Quite frankly, I don't think we know what we don't know in regards to this issue, and I think that some of the political posturing we're seeing, such as Senator Chuck Shumer's statement, "This has become as serious as it gets" is merely that--posturing.
It is worth noting that Shumer is cited in this same Dana Milbank column as being "the Democrats' point man in the Valerie Plame investigation," an investigation which found no illegal activity is the release of Plame's name, and only convicted Lewis Libby for lying about his involvement. Hot air is one of Shumer's specialties.
Another person with legal experience, prosecutor Patrick Frey, notes that the White House released emails related to the case that apparently show that the White House had good reason for firing many of the prosecutors, including failures to prosecute drug cases, failure to prosecute illegal immigrants, failure to investigate charges of voter fraud, and failures to carry out Administration policies. Many Presidential Administrations have fired all U.S. Attorneys when they came to power, including the Clinton Administration, for no reason other than pure politics. That the Bush Administration fired these Attorneys for cause seems, well, refreshing, if that is indeed what occurred.
The scandal, such as it is, seems to revolve around Attorney General Gonzales' inept handling of what should have been a minor issue at best.
Is there any fire to go with this smoke?
Again, we may not know what we do not know, but of what we have seen presented thus far, the Democratic cry of scandal seems based on very thin evidence.
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Some of the details that you are missing:
1) San Diego US Atty Carol Lam had just put away Duke Cunningham and was pursuing a case against CA congressman Jerry Lewis and others when she was fired.
2) Lam and others USA's had glowing performance reviews when they were fired, which is of course inconsistent with the notion that they were fired because of failure to pursue immigration or drugs or what have you.
3) The administration
lied at least six times about the firings.
4) Unlike what I've seen from numerous sources, Clinton replaced 93 Attorneys General at the beginning of his presidency, just like Bush '41. This is way different from removing active Attorneys General
5) John McKay (a Republican) in Seattle got calls complaining that the did not pursue a case against Christine Gregoir in her close governor contest against (R) Dino Rossi. McKay said he didn't see any evidence of crime in the recount. Nevertheless he was summarily replaced.
So the obvious impression is that the administration fired these USA's out of pure partisanship.
Posted by: Lex Steele at March 14, 2007 12:21 PM (7IB7k)
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Arguing about these issues as if they were part of the usual left/right debate is a bit misleading. The problem isn't right wing economic or social policy. What is novel about the Bush administration is not that it adheres to conservative principles--in fact it often doesn't--but that it represents a reversion to the spoils system of the 19th Century. We are talking about a specifically political evil. The modern White House is Tammany Hall for the whole freaking continent. But history never really repeats itself. The American government is vastly larger than it was in the 19th Century. We're not talking about getting your cronies a few jobs at the custom house or securing the bid on twenty-five cannons. The corrupt political system promoted by the Republicans is correspondingly more dangerous to everybody's liberty and certainly vastly more expensive than anything Boss Tweed or the plutocrats who manipulated Grant ever dreamed of.
The worst thing about the federal attorneys issue is not that some of them were kicked out because they didn't protect crooked Republicans or wouldn't conduct bogus prosecutions of Democrats. What worries me is what the attorneys who haven't been sacked have been doing all along.
Posted by: Jim Harrison at March 14, 2007 02:26 PM (EBYJI)
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For #5-- that's because there WAS a great deal of evidence put forward that makes it very likely the blue areas had major voting problems. G00gle it if you'd like-- I'd fire someone who saw absolutely no evidence of a crime in that junk.
(funky spelling because the phrase tripped a spam filter, somehow.)
Posted by: Sailorette/Foxfier at March 14, 2007 03:35 PM (Nv4xT)
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If Gonzalez had fired these USAs and had to seek Senate approval for their replacement, the issue would have died for lack of any fire. But altering the PATRIOT Act to eliminate the need for Senate approval combined with the botched handling seems to have provided enough kindling to actually have some heat.
Figures that a perfectly legal act would cause the storm instead of all the other "illegal" acts in the last 6 six years. Not including all the stupid acts.
Posted by: TJM at March 14, 2007 04:20 PM (4yUfq)
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Yes, Bush gets to hire and fire. He and his minions cause their own problems when they deal with it the way they did.
This wasn't a national security issue that needed to be kept secret; this should have been done out in public view.
"Mistakes were made"? For crying out loud, how tone-deaf can the Attorney General be?
Posted by: Doc Washboard at March 14, 2007 05:34 PM (/Wery)
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It's not just the Dems who are crucifying Gonzales,
John Sununu of NH says he should go too.
Can you tell which GOP Senators are up for re-election in 08 yet?
Sickening. It's one thing to wash your hands of Gonzales if he'd committed a crime, but doing so in the court of public opinion is a major problem.
The White House needs to get this under control. They've let the media blow this way out of proportion and it's time to fight back.
Let's see some of that famous "White House message discipline" from Karl Rove.
Posted by: Jared at March 14, 2007 07:40 PM (4xUWs)
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You guys are supporting a crooked administration. It's time you faced the music. Bush doesn't have supporters any more. He has accomplices.
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It appears that James Cameron's claim to have found the tomb and ossuaries of Jesus Christ and his family, which were never taken seriously by biblical scholars, may have resulted from an inabilty to properly read and translate the Greek writing on at least one ossuary.
The film and book suggest that a first-century ossuary found in a south Jerusalem cave in 1980 contained the remains of Jesus, contradicting the Christian belief that he was resurrected and ascended to heaven. Ossuaries are stone boxes used at the time to store the bones of the dead.
The filmmakers also suggest that Mary Magdalene was buried in the tomb, that she and Jesus were married, and that an ossuary labeled "Judah son of Jesus" belonged to their son.
The scholars who analyzed the Greek inscription on one of the ossuaries after its discovery read it as "Mariamene e Mara," meaning "Mary the teacher" or "Mary the master."
Before the movie was screened, Jacobovici said that particular inscription provided crucial support for his claim. The name Mariamene is rare, and in some early Christian texts it is believed to refer to Mary Magdalene.
But having analyzed the inscription, Pfann published a detailed article on his university's Web site asserting that it doesn't read "Mariamene" at all.
The inscription, Pfann said, is made up of two names inscribed by two different hands: the first, "Mariame," was inscribed in a formal Greek script, and later, when the bones of another woman were added to the box, another scribe using a different cursive script added the words "kai Mara," meaning "and Mara." Mara is a different form of the name Martha.
According to Pfann's reading, the ossuary did not house the bones of "Mary the teacher," but rather of two women, "Mary and Martha."
"In view of the above, there is no longer any reason to be tempted to link this ossuary ... to Mary Magdalene or any other person in biblical, non-biblical or church tradition," Pfann wrote.
In the interest of telling a good story, Pfann said, the documentary engaged in some "fudging" of the facts.
Okay, an inability to read and an apparent willingness to deceive.
Somehow, I doubt anyone is all that surprised.
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There is no historical evidence that Jesus and the two Maries continued living in Palestine while there is convincing evidence that they traveled to India. The fist detailed research was published a hundred years ago by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1835-190
in his book Jesus in India (www.alislam.org, www.tombofjesus dot com) referring to many ancient sources. Graves of Jesus is well known in Srinagar India and that of one Mary in Murree in Pakistan.
Posted by: Syed Sajid Ahmad at March 14, 2007 11:43 AM (j+83b)
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CY, I agree completely with two posts in a row! (Pace "don't ask/don't tell" and now this about bonehead Cameron). What's the world coming to?
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Unacceptable Opinions
Marine Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, infuriated many yesterday when he said
in an interview that he thought homosexual behavior was immoral, and likened it to adultery:
Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said Monday that he supports the Pentagon's "don't ask, don't tell" ban on gays serving in the military because homosexual acts "are immoral," akin to a member of the armed forces conducting an adulterous affair with the spouse of another service member.
Responding to a question about a Clinton-era policy that is coming under renewed scrutiny amid fears of future U.S. troop shortages, Pace said the Pentagon should not "condone" immoral behavior by allowing gay soldiers to serve openly. He said his views were based on his personal "upbringing," in which he was taught that certain types of conduct are immoral.
As you may imagine, all the usual suspects were there to quickly condemn Pace's comments, including one liberal blogger that hoped to organized a petition drive to have him fired. To date, Pace refuses to apologize.
I've got very mixed feelings about this particular story.
I personally dislike "don't ask, don't tell."
The official military position, as I understand it, is that they don't want openly gay soldiers serving in the military because it could cause dissention in the ranks. As openly gay soldiers have served in armies worldwide for thousands of years--including our Greek friends portrayed in the now-playing "300"--I find that argument especially weak, if not insulting to our soldiers. Are proponents of "don't ask, don't tell" trying to convince us that our military men and women are so fickle, mentally weak and easily rattled that the mere presence of openly gay soldiers in the ranks is enough to topple our military, or at the very least, reduce its combat effectiveness? If so, our top generals must be far more afraid of Cirque du Soleil than al Qaeda.
No, I think that "don't ask, don't tell" comes down to anti-gay bigotry in our military, which is notoriously conservative (and I mean socially, not politically, though that probably applies as well). The policy implemented during the Clinton Administration was a mistake then, and continues to be a mistake now, causing the military to lose potential applicants that are intelligent, skilled, and otherwise exemplary material, solely on the basis of sexual preference. We have lost good soldiers because of this, as well as intelligence assets, including Arab linguists that are already in short supply. "Don't ask, don't tell" is hurting the War against Islamic terrorism in very measurable ways.
But for all that is wrong with the policy, I'm even more appalled by the hysterical responses of some of those who have taken issue with Pace's comments. Apparently, Pace's opinion is too much to handle for some oppressively self-righteous gay advocates, including one that is calling for Pace to resign, and another, John Aravosis, that shrieks so shrilly that it only reinforces the stereotype that some in the military have against allowing gays to serve. Apparently, these blogger-advocates are quite content to exercise their freedom of speech, while attempting to punish Pace for exercising his. What they advocate is nothing less than censorship, pure and simple, and in a hysterically cartoonish way at that.
If John Aravosis, Pam Spaulding, etc want to help convince our military that allowing gay and lesbian soldiers to serve openly is in our nation's best interests, then by all means, they should help develop a compelling case to prove to Congress and the military that is policy is outdated and counterproductive. If advocates truly want gay and lesbian Americans to have the opportunity to serve their country, then they should fight for that right with logic, reason, and intelligence.
Instead, they attempt to claim victim status once again, and hope to shame Pace into retracting his comments, or force his resignation. Quite simply, they hurt their cause with a call for censorship instead of reasoned debate.
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Actually, GEN Pace has apologized, just not for having opinions:
http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=10601
Posted by: SGT Jeff (USAR) at March 13, 2007 03:39 PM (yiMNP)
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I agree with the idea behind the policy for the simple reason that in the military there are, at least in some instances, still communal showers and there should be the expectation that you are not showering in the presence of someone who finds you sexually attractive, without your consent or knowledge. There is a simple solution, build private showers. I don't like the policy, but I can understand how a person regardless of gender or sexual orientation may not like the idea that he or she is being ogled by someone they are not, nor would be interested in.
Posted by: Ennuipundit at March 13, 2007 03:46 PM (etxGA)
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Sgt Jeff: Thanks for the URL about Pace. Yes, I think Pace apologized very well. He is dedicated to serve his country, and follow orders from above, even if he, personally has a problem with it. I, personally have no problem with gays in the military, or anywhere else, and I don't like the bad faith approach of "don't ask don't tell'. Sexuality is often very inconvenient in military life. Canada has openly gay/lesbian soldiers, and they manage. Militaries have always had gays, lesbians, and heteros, living cheek by jowl. Winston Churchill (who was Lord of the Admiralty twice) remarked that sodomy in the Royal Navy was endemic and perennial.
Posted by: DemocracyRules at March 13, 2007 06:17 PM (L/SIz)
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My view on allowing openly gay folks to serve is mixed -- I don't think that anyone shuold be denied the opportunity to serve, but I'm not so sure that the Marine Corps is quite ready for it quite yet. Let them serve, but make sure to budget in the insane amount of man hours that will be spent on legal proceedings.
It always irritates me when high-level representatives make irresponsible comments like that. From the time a person steps on the yellow foot prints at recruit training, they are told that they are ambassadors of the Marines Corps 24/7, and that they will be held to the highest standards at all times. If comment like that made to the media by a Lance Corporal would cause shockwaves and result in punishment, why should he be any different?
Making the comparison to adultry is ridiculous too -- adultry is rampant to the point of almost expected in the armed services. What happens on deployment stays on deployment, right?
Posted by: paully at March 13, 2007 06:23 PM (75YCX)
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Are proponents of "don't ask, don't tell" trying to convince us that our military men and women are so fickle, mentally weak and easily rattled that the mere presence of openly gay soldiers in the ranks is enough to topple our military, or at the very least, reduce its combat effectiveness?
It's not the military's fault that our civilian leadership can't get their shit together and come to a consensus on whether openly gay Americans should be allowed to serve in uniform. For the record, I think they should. And, since it's a civvie issue, I think Gen. Pace was out of line amking such public statements.
"Don't ask, don't tell" isn't my idea of a perfect compromise either, but I've come to respect it much more after my hitch in the service. Here's why. Prior to 1992, gay Americans who wanted to serve were forced to lie on their entry paperwork, providing a ready made character-flaw (dishonesty) to be used against them later.
But "don't ask" is a legal order, follow it, and you can serve as a gay American with your honor intact. Without denying who you are. It's not perfect, but hey, life isn't fair. And for me, it was more important to do my bit for the war effort than it was to flaunt my sexuality for activist purposes. There are plenty others like me, I assure you. All made possible by "don't ask."
(BTW, I was an Arabic linguist, followed my orders, and was rewarded with a trip to Iraq and a chance to do the job I signed up to do. Please don't buy into this "Gay Arabic linguinsts will win the war!" hype of the gay activist Left. They're simply seizing on news of linguist shortfalls for their own cynical ends. They don't give a shit about winning. And I'm posting as Anon because I want to remain elidgble to go back if recalled. Something these high minded activists will never understand.)
Posted by: Anon at March 13, 2007 06:34 PM (qJ3GC)
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It is hard to justify allowing openly gay soldiers to serve when we don't allow openly adulterous hetero soldiers to room together. The issue is not that gay people serve, but that the military must give official cognizance and protection to them beyond that offered to hetero soldiers. Here are only a few concerns that soldiers have raised with openly gay people in the military as a protected class not subject to the same UCMJ that the rest of us are:
- Lesbian Drill Sergeants recruiting from enlistees. This already happens, but the policy change would protect them.
- Gay leaders assign dangerous duty to someone other than their lover, as will happen among heteros when we fully integrate women into the combat branches.
- Barracks being separated into Gay and Straight ssections, just like they used to be separated by race.
The military exists to fight our wars, not serve as a social experiment.
Posted by: Old_dawg at March 13, 2007 06:37 PM (0NZst)
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The military has no say in the matter. The ban on open homosexual conduct is federal law, passed by Congress. (10 USC 654)
And it's fun to note that the policy is a ban on conduct, not status. You can be straight as an arrow, but if you engage in homosexual conduct, you can be separated.
Conversely, you can be gay as can be, but if you don't act on it, you're fine.
Posted by: Army Lawyer at March 13, 2007 06:44 PM (d4X7I)
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If homosexuals get to shower with those they are attracted to, then hetrosexuals should sue to be able to have the same rights as gays. That is to be able to shower with members of the oposite sex. Like a previous poster stated, the military is not a social experiment. They are trained to kill people and break things. We pay them to do it better than anyone else. Considering what is at stake when we utilize our military. Anything that hinders the operation thereof, and that should be left to those doing the job, should be banned. That is, only if victory in battle is a priority. Hence the lefts mission to include openly gay people in the military.
Posted by: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III at March 13, 2007 08:43 PM (QpC8Q)
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Maybe Gen.Pace,by stating his true opinion, wants to be fired. Maybe he doesn't care for the CIA's Gates oversight of the Pentagon. Didn't the Sec. of the Army also resign the other day over the Walter Reed stink? Perhaps there's just unhappiness with the new CIA overlords/Democrats promotion of the Walter Reed scandal and their continual attack on the US military.
Posted by: Bob at March 13, 2007 09:14 PM (kD3eu)
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It's pretty bad precedent to apologize for your opinions.
Posted by: Kevin at March 13, 2007 09:40 PM (/ndDU)
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when you get thirsty do you pour water in your ear?
when you get hungry do you put food on top of your head?
no; it's not normal or natural.
so... why is it okay for a man who is horny to wanna put his blank inside another man's blank?
just asking.
i mean: is there such a thing as deviancy or not?
does it matter if it has a genetic component or not?
pedophiles may have a genetic diathesis for attraction to children. addicts to drugs.
does that make pedophilia and drug addiction normal or okay?
just asking.
seems to me normal is a very useful thing for societies.
sure sure sure: so too is liberty.
but liberty without natural law is libertinage.
and "do what thou wilt" cannot be the whole of the law without lawlessness breaking out all over.
bottom-line: hate the sin; love the sinner.
treat non-normal people with the respect they deserve and within the law.
as for the military: old dawg and zr3 make good points.
Posted by: RELIAPUNDIT at March 13, 2007 10:03 PM (iLtL+)
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I agree with the General that homosexuality is immoral. The Scriptures are too plain. The fact is I was in the Navy in the 80s and joined the Army for the sole purpouse of going to Iraq. I was in Yusefiah where 2 of my comrades were kidnapped and brutally murdered and I got 3 purple hearts. I dont think that gays should be in the military. I am sure that women would not want a bunch of men taking showers with them and lusting after them in the showers. I know for a fact that when I had to take a shower with other soldiers that if I knew there was a gay in there I definatly would just have to go dirty. I would not want a man that was gay in the shower looking and lusting. It just makes common sense just like men dont take showers with women and vice versa. Neither straight men nor women would want to be lusted after anytime by the same sex but especially when at war. We have enough problems and this is just common sense. If I knew before enlistment that I would have to take a shower and undress in front of men who lusted after me I would not join.
Posted by: Forrest Langley at March 14, 2007 12:18 AM (wlQTg)
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The shower trailers in nearby Mahmudiyah have single stalls, so don't worry about a gay dude looking at your ding ding. Gay dudes are in the military right now, and I'm sure one of them has seen you naked. OH NO!
Posted by: brando at March 14, 2007 03:53 AM (uZ35s)
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I have two comments. First, when you join the military, you give up certain rights. One of those rights is the freedom to live where you want to live and who you want to live with. If they say you have to move into barracks and share a living space with another soldier not of your choosing, its basic respect for the individual that he or she shouldn't be housed with someone who is sexually attracted to them. What would happen if a college forced a homosexual to room with a hetersexual who didn't want to live with the other? Who's rights are being violated? The second point is not PC, but harsh reality. There is a lot of sex going on in Co-Ed military units. LOTS and it can't be stopped. Enlisted with enlisted, NCOs with enlisted, officers with NCOs. Its just a fact that one has to deal with. All co-ed units have their soap operas to deal with, some are worse than others. Letting gays serve openly will make matters worse, much worse, not only for the Co-Ed combat service and services support units, but our frontline combat units.
Posted by: BohicaTwentyTwo at March 14, 2007 08:49 AM (oC8nQ)
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Army Lawyer - thanks for the info. I had always been under the impression that the policy was a presidential order.
10 USC 654 is part of Public Law 103-160, enacted in November 1993.
Who controlled Congress in 1993? Who signed the bill into law in 1993?
It also appears (I am not a lawyer) that 10 USC 654 has been upheld several times by the Supreme Court.
The point is, those laying the blame on (any) president, the pentagon, generals or admirals, the defense department, or secretaries of Defense, Army, Navy, Air Force, etc. are being dishonest.
The root of the law lies within Congress. The President is executing the law and all the others are following the law - whether they personally agree with it or not.
People that truly believe this law to be bad should be pounding on Congress.
Those who believe that politics must occur will beat on the President, Pentagon, and Defense instead, because they can get more camera time and print space.
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Air America Offers to Host Republican Presidential Debates
Please understand that
this is meant purely as a snub by the floundering liberal radio network.
On the other hand, if the state Republican chairmen of Iowa, Nevada, South Carolina, or New Hampshire accept the offer, Air America can revel in something entirely new on a liberal talk radio network... listeners.
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Air America can't afford to "host" anything. If they were to "host" they would have to "charge".
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Second Verse, Same as the First
If you read either
Left Behind from last week or
The United Left of Defeat from yesterday, then this editorial from the Washington Post today might sound
very familiar:
The only constituency House Speaker Nancy Pelosi ignored in her plan for amending President Bush's supplemental war funding bill are the people of the country that U.S. troops are fighting to stabilize. The Democratic proposal doesn't attempt to answer the question of why August 2008 is the right moment for the Iraqi government to lose all support from U.S. combat units. It doesn't hint at what might happen if American forces were to leave at the end of this year -- a development that would be triggered by the Iraqi government's weakness. It doesn't explain how continued U.S. interests in Iraq, which holds the world's second-largest oil reserves and a substantial cadre of al-Qaeda militants, would be protected after 2008; in fact, it may prohibit U.S. forces from returning once they leave.
In short, the Democratic proposal to be taken up this week is an attempt to impose detailed management on a war without regard for the war itself. Will Iraq collapse into unrestrained civil conflict with "massive civilian casualties," as the U.S. intelligence community predicts in the event of a rapid withdrawal? Will al-Qaeda establish a powerful new base for launching attacks on the United States and its allies? Will there be a regional war that sucks in Iraqi neighbors such as Saudi Arabia or Turkey? The House legislation is indifferent: Whether or not any of those events happened, U.S. forces would be gone.
If anything, the WaPo editorial is more targeted in exposing the cynical nature of the "slow bleed" Democrats. Not only does this Executioner's Congress not care about the fate of the Iraqi people or the larger Sunni-Shia regional war that may result from their craven political acts, they also want their genocidal proposals implemented in time to benfit them politically. I know that I alluded to this, but this editorial takes them head-on in their defeatism.
I said it yesterday, and will reiterate it again today:
On a fundamental level, leftists are no longer Americans first. They nakedly place their partisan political objectives above those of the nation as a whole. Blinded by internal domestic politics they fail, perhaps purposefully, to account for how their actions vindicate the long-term strategic goals of Islamic terrorists and undermine the credibility of the United States on the world stage. They rank partisan politics above national interests. They are the United Left of Defeat; their stated agenda and goals shows clearly that they view the long-term health and well-being of United States of America—and the success of the state of Iraq, and the larger War against Islamic Terrorism—as secondary issues to their own continued quest for more political power.
Their primary and overriding interest of the Left is their own political success and vindication. They have created a belief system around the thought that if the United States is successful in helping the Iraqi people emerge from this conflict as a more-or-less stable parliamentary democracy, that the war would be a victory for George Bush and the neo-conservative movement.
They are incapable of seeing it as a victory for the Iraqi people, whom they have made abundantly clear though their choices of rhetoric and proposed legislation, are secondary citizens of the world, at best. They refuse to acknowledge the possibility of a victory in Iraq as being good for the United States, the Iraqi people, or the world at large. They have chosen sides, and they do not side with the best interests of our country, or that of other free nations.
I never thought I would live to see a day where a substantial portion of the American poltical establishment placed party politics above national security.
Sadly, that day has clearly arrived, as even the national media are beginning to pickup.
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Shorter Cy: Having failed to instill a representational Democracy in Iraq, we must now give the Iraqi people a voice in our Congress.
...and you're still as wrong in this post as you were in the others about which party places,
"their partisan political objectives above those of the nation as a whole. Blinded by internal domestic politics they fail, perhaps purposefully, to account for how their actions vindicate the long-term strategic goals of Islamic terrorists and undermine the credibility of the United States on the world stage."
As I reminded you in the last post bin Laden's goals are being furthered by the Republicans, and the Republicans alone:
“We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah,” bin Laden said in the transcript.
He said the mujahedeen fighters did the same thing to the Soviet Union in Afghanistan in the 1980s, “using guerrilla warfare and the war of attrition to fight tyrannical superpowers.”
“We, alongside the mujahedeen, bled Russia for 10 years until it went bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in defeat,” bin Laden said.
He also said al Qaeda has found it “easy for us to provoke and bait this administration.”
“All that we have to do is to send two mujahedeen to the furthest point east to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al Qaeda, in order to make generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic and political losses without their achieving anything of note other than some benefits for their private corporations,” bin Laden said.
Posted by: Frederick at March 13, 2007 09:59 AM (2SHkX)
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Ms. Pelosi has also invoked that leftist incantation "for our children" as a reason to accept defeat and retreat, without once mentioning Iraqi children. What of them once we "redeploy?" I'd like to hear her direct answer (as if it were possible for her to give one) to the question, "What happens to the children of Iraq once we leave the country?"
Yes, I know the children are paying a terrible price right now, but which scenario gives them a better chance for a positive future? Completion of our mission? Or defeat? Does Ms. Pelosi care? You wouldn't know it from anything she's said so far.
Posted by: DoorHold at March 13, 2007 12:11 PM (wEn0O)
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Frederick
"Bin Ladens goals are being furthered"
What, like getting 1000s of his soldiers killed in Iraq by US marines and Iraqi infantry?
Like being ousted from his one safehaven and forced underground?
Like being forced so deep into hiding/oblivion by US special forces that he hasnt been heard from in more than TWO YEARS?
Like Iranian commanders defecting to the US?
Like the arab states agreeing to allow Israeli overflights for purposes of bombing missions on Iran?
Like his top lieutenant, Al Zarqawi being killed by US bombs?
Does anyone besides me find Fredericks blind acceptance of 2 year old Bin Laden propaganda as "proof" of Al Qaedas success to be somewhat odd? (or just plain idiotic?)
Posted by: TMF at March 13, 2007 12:20 PM (+BgNZ)
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By the way, if Bin Ladens 2 year old propaganda about "bankrupting" the US was correct, wouldnt unemployment be above 4.5%?
http://origin.mercurynews.com/business/ci_5406267
If we were bankrupt Id think we'd be more like France or Germany in the 10% range.
Posted by: TMF at March 13, 2007 12:27 PM (+BgNZ)
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blind acceptance:
Iraq War costs projected at upwards of 2 Trillion dollars.
A Birth tax of $36,000 on every child that is born.
National debt load is a fiscal time bomb
As the national debt approaches a staggering $9 trillion, roughly $240 billion will be spent this year paying interest on the half that's held by public creditors (of which Japan and China are the largest). That translates to about 11 percent of projected tax revenue.
...By 2040, we could be looking at debt held by the public being 300 percent of GDP
GOP Kool-Aid...free, drink up.
Posted by: Frederick at March 13, 2007 12:55 PM (2SHkX)
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Federal Deficit Down Sharply in 2007
Associated Press
"WASHINGTON — The deficit for the first five months of the budget year is down sharply from a year ago as the growth in government tax collections continues to outpace growth in spending.
The Treasury Department reported that the deficit from October through February totaled $162.2 billion, down 25.5 percent from the same period last year.
That improvement came even though the deficit in February hit $120 billion, up 0.6 percent from last February's deficit of $119.2 billion.
One factor that contributes to higher deficits in February are the refund payments the Internal Revenue Service is mailing out during the month to people who have filed early tax returns. The February 2006 imbalance was the largest monthly deficit for that year.
In the current budget year, which began on Oct. 1, the government had larger-than-expected surpluses in December and January."
But then again, you cited a left wing columnist in the SF Gate to support your economic calamity narrative, as well as Bin Ladens assessment of Al Qaedas progress as proof of same, so you wouldnt know anything about swallowing Kool Aid, would you Freddie?
Posted by: TMF at March 13, 2007 01:09 PM (+BgNZ)
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I agree we carry a massive national debt load, but you'd have to be a serious ignoramus to claim that this isnt a very long standing problem.
http://concordcoalition.org/press/1998/980930_budgetdebt.html
5.4 trillion dollars in national debt, most of it spent on "paying interest" on money owed to "Britain and China"
Hey, who was President in 1998 anyhow?
Democrat Kool Aid. Tastes like Nancy Pelosis bunghole.
Posted by: TMF at March 13, 2007 01:15 PM (+BgNZ)
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Let me see if I have the Frederick playbook down:
1. Cite enemy propaganda (specifically- a speech given by the ever truthful mass murderer: Osama Bin Laden) as proof of Bush's failures in the war on terror
2. Bitch about 7 trillion in national debt of which a large portion represents payment of interest under Bush, but dont bat an eyelid under Clinton when it's 5.4 trillion in which a large portion represents payment of interest
And then claim you arent "partisan"
Posted by: TMF at March 13, 2007 01:34 PM (+BgNZ)
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I think you're absolutely correct that the left is not America First. However, I think it's not quite blind, selfish political opportunism. They are 'We Are The World'-firsters, where nationhood means nothing. They would like the UN to lead us. They would like borders and wars to be obsolete. They would like religious belief to be obsolete. They don't want anything incovenient to disrupt progress towards those states of being, where no one in the world has to worry about anything. All those things above have certain aspects about them that are good (as well as bad). But, a strong US vigorously defending it's and the West's position in the world they believe to be a major roadblock to their Nirvana. They refuse to understand that their are a lot more aggressive forces out their that will harsh their journey than GWB and the US. - They are, as they always have been, Totalitarianism's Useful Idiots.
Posted by: Mark at March 13, 2007 01:54 PM (+45yf)
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Frederick, you need a basic understanding of economics. "Iraq War costs projected at upwards of 2 Trillion dollars.
A Birth tax of $36,000 on every child that is born."
First: Costs are not debt. They are paid by the full faith and CREDIT (taxes and borrowing) of the US Govt. Only the borrowed part is debt.
You are drinking the MSM/Dem's kool aid re: the massive debt. It is not massive. It is actually a relatively normal load as a percentage of the GDP. One thing they seldom tell you unthinking liberals is that we have had debt as far back as 1780. We CANNOT pay off all of our Fed debt. Too many retirement accounts would be put at greater risk. Remember the brouhaha over "Social Security Private Accounts"?
Instead of just spouting, think. Please.
Posted by: CoRev at March 13, 2007 03:11 PM (Hr52v)
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Somewhere (I apologize for not remembering where) a commenter commented that the only way to get the Dems on the right side (USA) of the war was to let them have full control of the government. Then they would defend the USA with passion and dedication--probably because they were defending their grip on power, but I am extrapolating there.
That is, of course, just another way of restating Bob's point: Dems in general (not every one, of course) care more about getting and using political power than anything else in the world. Very old news, but few ever seem to notice.
Posted by: iconoclast at March 13, 2007 03:49 PM (lHYQX)
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That translates to about 11 percent of projected tax revenue.
Not bad. I remember when debt service was closer to 20% of tax revenues
Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 13, 2007 04:54 PM (eEBfB)
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"On a fundamental level, leftists are no longer Americans first." Very well said, and I think it's key to understanding the left. The theme song of socialism is the "Internationale". Socialism is seen as a global movement, and countries should be subsumed under that. Socialism, as most French politicians will tell you, requires the defeat of the US. This is because the US is unrepentantly capitalist, and successful. Therefore, it must be destroyed.
Posted by: DemocracyRules at March 13, 2007 06:54 PM (L/SIz)
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An Inconvenient Truth for Al Gore
At least he'll aways have his Oscar, even if his documentary
isn't supported by the data:
"I donÂ’t want to pick on Al Gore," Don J. Easterbrook, an emeritus professor of geology at Western Washington University, told hundreds of experts at the annual meeting of the Geological Society of America. "But there are a lot of inaccuracies in the statements we are seeing, and we have to temper that with real data."
Mr. Gore, in an e-mail exchange about the critics, said his work made "the most important and salient points" about climate change, if not "some nuances and distinctions" scientists might want. "The degree of scientific consensus on global warming has never been stronger," he said, adding, "I am trying to communicate the essence of it in the lay language that I understand."
Although Mr. Gore is not a scientist, he does rely heavily on the authority of science in "An Inconvenient Truth," which is why scientists are sensitive to its details and claims.
Criticisms of Mr. Gore have come not only from conservative groups and prominent skeptics of catastrophic warming, but also from rank-and-file scientists like Dr. Easterbook, who told his peers that he had no political ax to grind. A few see natural variation as more central to global warming than heat-trapping gases. Many appear to occupy a middle ground in the climate debate, seeing human activity as a serious threat but challenging what they call the extremism of both skeptics and zealots.
Kevin Vranes, a climatologist at the Center for Science and Technology Policy Research at the University of Colorado, said he sensed a growing backlash against exaggeration. While praising Mr. Gore for "getting the message out," Dr. Vranes questioned whether his presentations were "overselling our certainty about knowing the future."
Typically, the concern is not over the existence of climate change, or the idea that the human production of heat-trapping gases is partly or largely to blame for the globe's recent warming. The question is whether Mr. Gore has gone beyond the scientific evidence.
"He's a very polarizing figure in the science community," said Roger A. Pielke Jr., an environmental scientist who is a colleague of Dr. Vranes at the University of Colorado center. "Very quickly, these discussions turn from the issue to the person, and become a referendum on Mr. Gore."
Gore's fellow global warming co-religionists will most likely discount the attempt to inject actual science into the global warming debate. As we well know, science and faith do not always go hand-in-hand.
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When the NYT turns on a moonbat, they're in trouble.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 13, 2007 04:56 PM (eEBfB)
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algore exposed as a scheming thief!
"Al Gore defends his extraordinary personal energy usage by telling critics he maintains a "carbon neutral" lifestyle by buying "carbon offsets," but the company that receives his payments turns out to be partly owned and chaired by the former vice president himself".
You knew it was coming!
"Gore has built a 'green money-making machine capable of eventually generating billions of dollars for investors, including himself, but he set it up so that the average Joe can't afford to play on Gore's terms,' writes blogger Dan Riehl".
Read the rest of this "inconvenient truth" here.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54528
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