1 How pathetic you racists and Islamophobes are. Face reality. Allah (swt) has promised the entire world to His servants and the time has come for them to claim it. The long struggle is at an end. Renounce your false religions and your corrupt man-made Constitution. Embrace Islam now and live in peace in submission to the will of Almighty Allah (swt). Your grandchildren will be Muslim. Allahu akbar!

2 I always wonder about the wingnut gun fantasy on display here. If the gummint really does go fascist and Obama signs the US over to the UN (just guessing I'm not sure how this supposedly works), then the UN solders come to your city, and you are planning resistance to them, then I assume you are going to come out of your little bunker firing your semi-auto pop gun, then the Apache that is with the UN troops (the US military cooperates with them, I assume) fires a hellfire missile at your house and you vanish along with your basement full of cheetos and Guns & Ammo mags. Is that how this works? Makes no sense to me.

3 Good News: ObamaÂ’s Election Spurs New Appreciation For Constitution Some of us never stopped appreciating it, you dick.

4 And no doubt toyboat will be pointing out who in his neighborhood owns guns. Maybe he'll get double ration points. That ought to keep him happy until it's his turn.

5 toyboat, I am not worried about UN soldiers. I'll take Joe the Plumber over the Belgian army any day. I am also not worried about the US military firing on US civilians. They won't and Barry knows that. That's must be what the Civilian Defense Force is for.

6 No Steve, I'm just saying what the hell good does it do you to have any kind of handgun or any commercially available firearm at all? I'll even spot you a real-live M-60, an honest to gawd machine gun! WTF are you going to do against the UN/US goverment, or whatever weird fantasy hybrid of the two? If that really came to pass, I guess you die with a gun in your hand? Go out in a blaze of glory? I guess the wingnut scenario is the definition of "self-righteous suicide." I tease the wingers, but I really don't get this. If the scenarios I have heard (antichrist, UN takeover, use of US military inside US) really come to pass, no amount of guns or bullets is going to help you. Even small town SWAT uses armored vehicles, an M60 is useless against them. I guess logic just can't penetrate this fantasy.

7 Buy your own gun you miserable handout begging socialist.

8 A hand gun is great for driving off theft and rape minded home invaders ... Obama supporting laws that make you a criminal for protecting your family in this way, not so great.

9 "What you think that SLR 106FR is going to buy itself?" Here's an idea - GET A JOB, YOU LEECH! And if you've got one, then TRY LIVING WITHIN YOUR MEANS! Confederate Yankee? Confederate Welfare Junkie, more like.

10 Oh!...and don't forget that Obama and his dark(ie) overlords want to kill all the babies too! I'm leisurely sipping at a chilled 'amniotic fluid' martini as we speak.

11 I never though I'd even consider purchasing a gun...but I am. I've always believed in a person's right to own firearms for hunting and/or protection, but it just isn't something I ever wanted to own. But something about this election (beside the obvious things) has got to me. I wonder if this election has ushered in the beginning of the end of our rights. I surely hope not, but it could be. And we all need to exercise and value those rights, no matter what happens to them. Plus, I'm just plain scared. I don't wanna be a fear-monger...but dangit, I'm kinda scared! If push comes to shove...I'd like to know I can defend myself. ~T the D http://thedrunkelephant.blogspot.com/

12 toyboat and others like him would still bow before King George, while professing how glad they were to be second-class citizens instead of outright slaves. Others in the colonies, however - less than 10-percent of the population - thought that freedom was more important that mere survival, and armed with little more than the small arms of the day, they began a rebellion against the most powerful and feared military force that the world knew at the time. Unless our public schools have completely failed you know how that ragtag militia of civilians fared, and that the culture of rebels they established became the greatest force for protecting individual freedom and human rights this world has ever known. Of course, a more practical explanation may be in order. toyboat first makes the assumption that the U.S. military would unquestioningly side with the government in a conflict against U.S. civilians. I strongly doubt that this would occur. U.S. military leaders in training at West Point soldiers are taught to be loyal to "duty, honor and country," in that order. That would demand they first protect their fellow citizens against an abusive government, not become part of it. But nor do I think all military units would abandon a corrupt central government, so let's assume some military units would size with the fascist government, and some would side with the patriots. If neither side establishes clear military dominance, and economic, demographic, and other factors are roughly equal, then the side that has more popular support and more asymmetrical war-fighting capability typically wins. There are around 3 million members of the U.S. military if you include active duty, guard, and reserve forces. Only a small fraction of these are frontline combat troops. Until someone provides me with a better estimate, I'll guess that there are less than 800,000 trigger-pullers. If just 40% of the U.S. population owns firearms that is 120 million American gun owners (this is though to be a low estimate). If even a substantial minority of American gun owners - say 2-3 percent - were to actively join a conflict as irregulars, then it would effectively add 2.4 million-3.6 million low-level combatants to the mix and perhaps decisively influence a conflict. Presumably, you can grasp the significance of this?

13 Toyboat is one of those who will give up their freedom willingly in order to remain safe for a little while longer. If anything really serious were to occur, all the toyboats in the world would become either irrelevant or informers. But, as tonto said so well, taxing firearms so much that people willingly disarm is much more the current leftist strategy. Sounds like some reloading equipment is in my future. I can sell rounds to friends as well as keep myself well-supplied.

14 "That's a quotable one. So according to Liberal logic, if you own a gun then you must be a "wingnut".(his words) No exceptions." I guess that makes Joe Biden a "wingnut", too. Whodathunkit?

15 This afternoon I'm driving over to the Civilian Marksmanship Program facility at Anniston AL to look at their surplus M1 rifles. http://www.theonion.com/content/video/obama_promises_to_stop_americas They sell Garands in several grades and I want to judge which I should buy. Prices range from $499 to $1400. Also, they have 30 cal military ammunition for 24¢ a round in lots of 400. Will let you know what I find. The Garands are semi automatics, but they are far from pop guns.

16 Sorry about the wrong link. Try http://www.odcmp.com/ Arch

17 Seems toyboat has never heard of the tiny, crude but effective Liberty Pistol.

18 "While you're at it, consider hitting the Paypal link in the sidebar to the right as a belated blogoversary present. What, you think that SLR 106FR is going to buy itself?" Buy your own damn gun, asshole.

19 you are all crazy

20 Plenty of Liberals own guns including our local anti-gun activist and money-launderer CA President Pro-Tem Senator Don Perata who even has a concealed-carry permit - of course nobody else is allowed to have a CCW permit. But on a Nationwide level: Waxman is coming. "Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., is challenging Rep. John Dingell, D-Mich., for the chairmanship of the powerful House Energy and Commerce Committee." - So, Nancy Pelosi is going to toss the embarrassing four-rent-controlled-apartment John Dingell over, and with Waxman you get the ultimate left wing West Coast uber-liberal. If Waxman wins expect the Consumer Products Safety Commission to have jurisdiction over firearms. If Waxman wins, expect a gun show ban - if Waxman wins, expect a gun control orgy. Barack didn't spend all that time cooking up and paying-for anti-gun judicial reviews at the Joyce Foundation for nuthin'. Oh yeh, absolutely NO (no-no-no!) correlation between the Down tanking and Obama, but absolute correlation between skyrocketing gun-sales and Obama...

21 Where the hell were you people when Bush started tapping our phones and ok'd searching our houses without warrants? Ok'd arresting us without charges? Ok'd imprisoning us indefinitely without trials? Ok'd using secret (made up? who could know?)evidence and secret witnesses to convict us. Took away habeas corpus. Where were you when these laws got passed? You do know that because of what you all supported Bush doing that Obama will now be able to do the same, right? Oh wait- I remember- you were criticizing liberals for being paranoid and wanting to help terrorists. Take a look at the PATRIOT act that most conservatives wholeheartedly supported. I fully support the second ammendment, but, damn- conservatives sure loved the intrusion on our rights when Bush whispered it into their ear. I support Obama but I don't want him, Bush, or anyone else doing it. Now?...Now?...Now it's time to tool up? You fools on the right did a great disservice to your country when you goosestepped for Bush and screamed at your fellow citizens because they disagreed. Now most on the right don't even like him. Thanks for helping to erode our freedoms. The difference between the right and liberals? You'd be all too happy to have us punished by Bush. We'd never support Obama punishing you for simply disagreeing. Ask that clown Hannity, who actually had his job saved by the ACLU before he was on Fox.

22 Interesting trip to CMP mentioned above. They have a new facility just north of I-20. Apparently, they get newly rebuilt rifles every tuesday, so wednesday is the day to be there. I'm very glad I went over in person rather than ordering online. One word of caution. I-20 goes to 6 lanes passing Taladega and everyone thinks they are on the speedway. If you're driving 70, you need to be on the shoulder. They have three basic grades all safe to load and fire - rack, service and correct. Rack grade rifles ($495) are pretty rough since most went through WWII and/or Korea. Barrels are worn; wood is mismatched and there is some pitting and considerable wear. If you are looking for a museum piece they are authentic. If you look carefully and use a gauge, you can find one that should shoot pretty well. Service grades ($595) are in much better condition. The barrels have less wear. Most were built after 1952 and saw no major wartime abuse. You can buy one that has all Springfield or all H&R parts but the looks tend to vary quite a bit. If Congress starts making gun-ban noises, I'll drive back and select two service grades. It saves me $20 on FedEx and I won't have to take the luck of the draw. Correct grade pieces ($950 to $975) are what I really want. They look new. In fact, they are exactly like the ones we used to field strip at Culver every morning. The wood is new birch or walnut and they have leather slings. Little to no wear. It would be safe to order a correct grade online. Depending on the damage my wife and 6 grandchildren do this Christmas and how the IRS treats me, I will probably buy one correct grade or two service grades in January 2009.

23 God and guns baby, God and guns!! A man who police believe was shot and killed by his 8-year-old son had consulted a Roman Catholic priest about whether the boy should handle guns and had taught him how to use a rifle, the clergyman said Saturday. The father, Vincent Romero, 29, was from a family of avid hunters and wanted to make sure the boy wasn't afraid of guns, said the Very Rev. John Paul Sauter of St. Johns Catholic Church. The boy's stepmother had suggested he have a BB gun, the priest said. Romero taught his son how to use a rifle to kill prairie dogs, Sauter said. Police say the boy used a .22-caliber rifle Wednesday to kill his father and another man, Timothy Romans, 39, of San Carlos. So, how'd that all work out for you Vincent?

24 toyboat, You are a subject, a victim. Go buy a cheap handgun and a box of shells, then shoot yourself in the head. It will be quick and painless compared to the endless and ever increasing suffering you will endure as a slave.

25 There is no way any size military force UN or otherwise that can take on Millions of the American people and win. Hell how long were we in the tiny country of Nam, look at our present situation in Iraq! Gorilla warfare on home ground is a no brain'er, we win they loose. There is no equal to fighting in your own territory. Simple! I have no desire to shoot any of my fellow Citizens in uniform or otherwise. Just don't mess with my Family, Home or my Guns! That WILL get you Shot!