1 In the burial scene, the "blood" on the sheet is still bright red. If any time at all had passed between the death and burial, the blood should have darkened. I also doubt the "missile" argument as the damage does not look very extensive.

2 CNN'S COURSE OF ACTION IS PAR FOR THE COURSE. THEY LIED FOR SADDAM. AND DID THE SAME BS RE: AL DURA AND JENINGRAD AND THE LEBANON WAR. THEY'RE NOT OBJECTIVE; THEY'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE.

3 Why wouldnÂ’t it be real? Is it really that hard to believe? He just wanted to show us a glimpse of reality. do you really think anyone in Gaza has the time and reason to make up and fake a death of a child. Its not like thats the only child reported to have been killed. these types of massacres have been happing for the past 14 days, look at the UN School that was blown and all the children that died, and no evidence has been put forward that missiles or any terrorist where in the area, it the UN for Gods Sake and they blew it up. IDF did the same to a UN Shelter in Lebanon, Remember Qana, Lebanon, and nothing was done nor was it condemned. It was just an "unfortunate incident"

4 "do you really think anyone in Gaza has the time and reason to make up and fake a death of a child." Yes. Because they've done it quite a few times before. "look at the UN School that was blown and all the children that died, and no evidence has been put forward that missiles or any terrorist where in the area" You really should pay better attention. The AP cited witnesses who saw Hamas thugs in the area; I believe the report was they fired one of the unguided rockets they're so fond of. And, yes, "unfortunate incidents" happen. Particularly when a military that attempts to avoid civilian casualties is forced to fight thugs who benefit from civilian casualties whether they're Israeli, Lebanese, Palestinian, Egyptian, or Jordanian. The thugs fire from behind women and children -- it's the fault of the thugs that the women and children are caught in the crossfire.

5 Yea just like the Hamas rocket fire sites are staged.

6 do you really think anyone in Gaza has the time and reason to make up and fake a death of a child. Its not like thats the only child reported to have been killed. Absolutely they have the time, reason and motivation. Sadly, civilians are always killed in wars and children are among those civilians. I readily concede those dozens of people under the age of 18 must have died in this current conflict, despite the best efforts of the IDF to limit themselves to legitimate military targets (Hamas has no such limitations, and in fact triggered this war by targeting civilians). But dead children, however sad, are not motivating enough without context. there have been dozens of grisly wire service photos of dead children that sell well in the Arab and Muslim press to gin up outrage against Israel, but those photos are not as frequently printed in western media, and so a human touch is needed. This particular tragic story was apparently manufactured to hit just those personal notes to generate anger by personalizing the loss, while ignoring the gore that turns on a bloodthirsty media in more crude parts of the world. Palestinians have been manufacturing the fake deaths of children and attributing them to the Israelis for decades to fit media specific purposes. This story was crafted because it fit a need in Hamas' media strategy, which is all it has left going for it at this time.

7 CNN should ask Dr Sanjay Gupta if those chest compressions are real or not. They are bogus. The defense given by Martin does not address this at all.

8 Its not like thats the only child reported to have been killed. Are you saying "fake, but accurate" might be in play here? do you really think anyone in Gaza has the time and reason to make up and fake a death of a child. I think that a) the 'journalist' involved carries a camera and films stuff for a living. So he has time, and the skill, and b) there is a rich tradition of 'fauxtography' coming from arab war zones, so there are reasons to be skeptical. No one is questioning the fact that children are killed in conflicts like this one. News outlets presented this story as being especially poignant, and somehow representative of Israeli barbarity. People noticed, very quickly, that technical details seemed wrong. The way the CPR was being done did not look right to people who would know the difference. The story is moving. No one argued otherwise. But it becomes infuriating if, under examination, it turns out to have been faked. Let me be explicit: No one gets automatic credibility, and no one is above question. The facts are what matter, and these were conveniently recorded so that they can be examined. Any outrage at the attempt to determine whether this piece of reportage is real is not likely sincere, but rather, an attempt to shame us in to not looking. Well, nonsense. We'll look, and we'll say so if something looks fishy.

9 do you really think anyone in Gaza has the time and reason to make up and fake a death of a child. You should do standup because THAT was funny! Oh...you were serious?

10 do you really think anyone in Gaza has the time and reason to make up and fake a death of a child. You should do standup because THAT was funny! Oh...you were serious?

11 What kind of missiles that caused minimal damages? Glad you ask. 1st generation missiles: Hitler's rockets hitting Great Britain indiscriminately causing a lot of collateral damages. 2nd generation: American missiles, somewhat more precise, but still had uh-oh moments when something other than the targets were hit, and caused some collateral damages. 3rd generation: American smart missiles, those used to pulverize Osama in his cave. They could hit Saddam's house, not killing him. 4th generation: Israeli missiles which are so precise that the Jews use specifically to target small children, the smaller the better, leaving everything else intact. The Jews also use smart bullets that zig-zag and turn corners to hit young children. They used that to kill Al Dura, another 12 years old.

12 I do believe the UN as a fairly impartial group saying that large numbers of civilians have been killed since it was a resolution by the UN that created this situation 60 years ago. The outrage from the International Red Cross cannot be easily dismissed either since that group is known to be highly impartial as well as doing more work behind the scenes. Also, why is my comment blocked due to questionable content, and why does it not show what error to correct? This seems like some kind of censorship. I will try to post the first part of my post since it is the only relevant part to the actual article.

13 What they need is Hizbollah's Green Helmet guy to lend them credibilities.

14 The cardiopulmonary resuscitation is faked. Cardiac compressions are not forceful enough to be effective and are too rapid. No attempt is made at pulmonary ventilation. The physician on the left, who I believe is a plastic surgeon, would have been insuring an airway and either bagging or performing mouth to mouth resuscitation if this were real.

15 As an ER physician who watched the footage carefully, I can tell you that the event is either staged, or that medical team has absolutely no idea how to perform CPR and otherwise resuscitate a patient. Based on watching the video, I believe that most likely the former is true, i.e., it is theatre.

16 Okay, so I have what I feel to be a legitimate comment actually relating to the post, but for whatever reason this site seems to censor me. I basically said that the IDF should let independent journalists in according to their supreme court's ruling. This would provide at least a bit more impartiality and prevent propaganda films from being released as news.

17 why is my comment blocked due to questionable content, and why does it not show what error to correct. This seems like some kind of censorship. Uh, of course it is 'some sort of censorship'. It is a content filter... My earlier comment didn't pass muster until I removed the initials of the Chicken Noodle Network. I see that they passed in at least one case above, so the algorithm must be complex.

18 "but for whatever reason this site seems to censor me." It's the Jooooos, they're everywhere. The clicking sound on your window at night, that's not the wind, it's a Jew Claw. The strange noise from your basement, a Jew sneaking up to snatch your children. The shadows arching over your wall at night....Jews coming to steal your blood. Then again, maybe the content filter or whatever just thinks you're an idiot.

19 Watch the video and decide. Was it done by; 1. A professional news organization. 2. Two doctors with a webcam. 3. Andrew Sachs and a bad mime. 4. The Muppets. 5. The Onion 6. Pravda. 7. Baghdad Bob and his All-Night Newsboys. 8. Cable News Network. My money's on number eight.

20 Simon, can you be seriously this naive? Oh, and about that UN school, check out this video from Jan 6, 2009. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JNQk2gbROk&feature=related

21 "As an ER physician who watched the footage carefully, I can tell you that the event is either staged, or that medical team has absolutely no idea how to perform CPR and otherwise resuscitate a patient." Well, you know, we are dealing with the typical competence associated with non-Israeli Middle-Easterners. . .

22 well then all you zionists, bigots, and religious fanatics...IF you "think" that the mostly densely populated region in the world can weather a week of intensive aerial bombardment, mostly with 2000 bombs, and another week of the same with the addition of artillery and tank bombardment...while not sustaining the numbers of casualties being mentioned; then it's YOU who are naive, blind, and uninformed! and tell us what YOU geniouses would do if you had the family right there, and a camera watching as you treat a victim who you "know" hasn't a chance in hell of surviving. ever heard of triage? the israelis murderous offensive dictate that its hospitals "cannot" afford to expend valuable resources and time on a victims with little to no chance of survival. so "IF" the man was just going through the motions, it was for the benefit of the family members; especially with a camera in his face. can you imagine the family's anguish and anger if NO effort was made? oh wait, excuse me...i forgot...none of you bigots have any human empathy for the carnage the palestinians are suffering; you all "think" they dance with joy and sing praise to Allah when their families are blown apart by israel. i know what write won't change your minds about anything...and i really don't care. i just wanted to let you know how close your mentalities are to the nazis, and how much your represent the baser and less desirable, spectrum of human society. have good day!

23 How would you or anyone know that it was fake or real, given Israel's total blackout on News Coverage. While I consider myself a supporter of Israel, do you really think you can drop massive tonnage of bombs on a densely populated area, and not cause incredible carnage? Do you think anyone would need to stage scenes of blood and gore under these circumstances? What desperate idiots you and your ilk are.

24 Alex you question is not legit because the underlying premise is false. The IRC is notorious for bias against Israel. Note I say the Internal Red Cross, not the US Red Cross. Different organizations. And the UN, well that is a bad joke. Israel does not owe you, me or anyone else to pick and choose which 'journalist" to allow in. Their position ought to be if the journalist are credentialed by them and embedded with their forces,fine. Others they should target them as illegal enemy combatants/propagandist. We should do so as well. Wars are not clean cut. Civilians die. The difference is that Israelis do not intentionally target civilians, the Arabs do. The question you should ask is why does the Arab terrorist hide behind woman and children, using them as shields? Why don't they wear uniforms to distinguish themselves from the civilians, like real soldiers? The answer is simple, they are pigs and cowards. Real men do not hide behind woman and children. That is all you need to know about those worthless dogs. They could end this tomorrow by simply surrendering. They are entirely responsible for the deaths of the civilians. Absent that, the Israelis should keep at it until the terrorist are all dead. If the Arabs don't give a shit about their own, why should anyone else? Why should the Israelis care more about what is to them enemy civilian casualties than the Arabs do about theirs? The Arabs certainly have demonstrated that to them the Israeli lives are worthless, Israel owes them nothing more than the same consideration.

25 Eric if the Arabs did not fire the rockets this would not be happening, so frankly fuck them and fuck you. They could wear uniforms to distinguish themselves from civilians, but then the cowards who hide behind woman and children would be easier to kill but the cowardly dogs would rather have their civilians killed for propaganda purposes. Wear uniforms, that would spare a lot of the civilians. But the pigs and cowards never will. Start a war suffer the consequences. They could surrender tomorrow and put an end to the fighting but the scum won't.

26 To Cubanbob: I was a full-on supporter of Israel... really a Zionist... until I worked in the West Bank for 9 months in 05-06. It was there that I witnessed what I could never have believed to be true about the occupation. It culminated in my last month when, after 8 months of nightly incursions by the IDF, leaving my patients (90% women and children) traumatized, I witnessed for myself how Israeli soldiers used a 16 year old girl as a human shield in a military "operation" on the street where I lived. I would not have believed it had I not seen it with my own eyes. How sad that the oppressed have now become the oppressors! I believe the children of Sderot and Ashkelon are now terrorized by the violence they have experienced. Multiply that by thousands of people and decades of time and you have the Palestinians.... enough hatred to fuel another generation or two of violence... on both sides!

27 eric is an ignorant nutbag

28 "do you really think anyone in Gaza has the time and reason to make up and fake a death of a child." I am completely sympathetic to your sympathy, but your impression that everyone in Gaza is too busy running around saving lives is a little naive. Here's proof: Look at the missiles still being fired into Israel. There is no defensive purpose to this whatsoever. It has no offensive purpose against IDF either. It is purely a symbolic gesture of defiance, one that is not only totally useless for the immediate combat at hand, but is actually counterproductive, since it only provokes Israel to keep fighting, which in turn will only continue to increase Palestinian casualties. Hamas know this. And yet there they are, coming out into the open and risking their lives to do it, all the same. You and I would want to save the lives of our own people, so it's natural to assume everyone would behave the same way. But Hamas has a different set of priorities. The evidence is right in front of you.

29 It is a big shame that in this day and age we allow our biases to colour our fair judgment as humans.Granted that war can never be fought clean but due consideration should always be given to the weak and defenseless(women and children). The porpoted use of human shield by Hamas, if true, is rather unfortunate but that does not in any way confer legitimacy on the actions of the IDF to fire blindly and waste the lives of these people.The moral burden still lies with he who pulls the trigger.And the fact that this story repeats itself at every turn of this long running conflict is enough for the world to feel concerned. The view by some that the UN is a worthless collection of countries is rather unfair. Was it not through an instrument of this same body that the state of Israel was established?

30 the palestian get what thay deserver thay stand by and let hamas fire rockets at israel knowing that israel will fire back at hamas so what ever happens to the palestian people thay deserver it

31 You sick fucks. Oh you are so brave. Who are the cowards? the ones using f16's, tanks and missiles against the other? or the ones using AK17's against the 4th most powerful military? You godless cowards who blab your big mouths at home behind a computer are even worst. Your stupid lies don't fool anybody but yourselves. war criminals that want sympathy for world war 2 are doing what people like hitler did to your kind. bring them to the hague and prosecute them. i can't believe how low you can get. what now not posting my comments? sick inhuman fucks go to hell!!

32 I abhor the thought and feeling for anyone or someone to question the death of a person's brother or son. Just mere failure on your parts to see images of bloods pouring on the dead body does not mean someone is not dead. Prohibit yourself and shame on you to belittle one's suffering and misery. It could be an internal injury. One incident, a young girl was knocked down by a car. No apparent injuries found from the body and no blood oozing out from her nose or mouth, but she was pronounced dead upon arrival to the hospital. You should gather your thought, time and all your strenght and sanity to condemn the savages and hedious acts of the Israelis on the poor defendless and innocent Palestanians. Who give the Israel the rights to shoot and kill mercilessly on young children, women, ederly men and bombed mosques and school buildings knowlingly there are people young and old inside those buildings? Only the Satans and Bush who are happy to give the Zionist the killing spree just to savour the appetite of their leaders' political gains/goals (to be the next Israel Prime Minister). Same to unpertubed Saudi Arabia monarchy. Keeping silent and offer no help to their Muslim brothers. The god-given wealths are not wisely and propriately used for the good cause. The king may be wants to keep his wealths buried to his grave and with undoubtedly forthcoming curses pouring from the entire muslim populations in the world. To the governments and leaders of Saudis, Libya, Kuwait and Qatar or even Algeria- please send medical aids, food, money, fuels and other necessary parts to the needy of Gazan Palestanians. Give them the equal and fair chance by supplying them the weapons, anti-aircraft missiles and artillery so that they have a fair fight to defend themselves, the children, women and their beloved country. Do not let escalate the sufferings of the Gazan people and do break the Israel and Egpytian blockades since the last 18 months where no food, no fuels, no water and supplies entering the Gazan territory.

33 Jan: I am sorry to hear about your experience, but those soldiers were undisciplined and did not reflect Israel society as a whole. In 2005, the Israeli Supreme Court banned the use of civilians as human shields by the IDF. After criminal investigations, those military officers responsible for allowing this tactic were censured. Bayo: The moral burden does lie with the one who pulls the trigger, but when the one who pulls the trigger is under constant threat of attack, the allowable margin for error must be expanded considerably. I've noticed that people who condemn the casualty rate seem to think that Israel should fight with more reserve, and thus be willing to sacrifice a few of its soldiers if that means saving the lives of many more of the enemy's civilians. This is preposterous. Israeli soldiers are people's kids too, and their government must value and protect their lives first. It is not just entitled to do so, it has a moral obligation to its citizens to do so.

34 Given the influx of anti-Israeli trolls, and in the spirit of hope and change *gag*, I'd like to provide a summary of everything they've said thus far. That way, everyone else can just skip over what they've said and move on to better things. "blah blah blah you're all Nazis blah blah kill the Jews blah blah allahu ackbar blah blah i like rabbits blah."

35 SO HAMAS IS BETTER OF THAN THE ISRAELI SOLDIERS SINCE THERE WERE NO REPORTS OF CHILDREN/CIVILIAN CASUALTIES ON THE ISRAELI SIDE,AND WERE JUST USING MUD OR PAINT BALLS AS THEIR BULLETS....

36 why should any man whether he is palestinian or israeli or american be allowed to shoot bulets or fire rockets at any other man without any recource or action being taken against him,if i lived in america and i fired across the street at my neighbour for whatever reason !!! i would expect him to shoot back or get the police or armed task force involved to deal with me,and im not anti semitic or anti palestinian,but from what i have seen and read i have coame to the conclusion that isreal has came a long way forward since the 50s and 60s and did leave gaza and still they have seen rockets fired at them indiscriminatley to kill anyone near it ,old woman ,chilren,anyone and when israel responds after a lot of warnings to the people of gaza and to hamas to stop firing the rockets,now hamas says they are killing the children of gaza and women ,in my view hamas clearly re-armed to start this war and has ignored every warning to simply stop firing the rockets but no- 1 day after the truce ended they began again,i am all for the people of gaza to have freedom and peace and not to endure any suffering but they have among them a very defiant terrorist organisation whos sole intent is to keep fighting against and firing rockets at the people of israel while hiding behind the very people it is saying it is fighting for....and yet they are smugging mountains of food and supplies through hundreds of tunnels which i ordinarily would agree with if i didnt hear about the prices they charge the already poor and suffering people of gaza for flour a bag of flour at $80 dollars the leadership of hamas are clearly criminals intent on getting rich in a mafia style way and using the profits from their extortionate prices to re-arm and enforce their hold on the people of gaza,if a man is desperate to feed his family and digs a tunner to get the supplys for his family then they take over the tunnel and sometimes kill the person who dug it as a punishment,it doesnt take much sense to see if they can re-arm themselves then then can bring food to the people of gaza instead they bring the guns.i was always feeling the people of gazas pain and suffering and i know they have endured a lot ,but now my view has changed ..until the people of gaza stand up and arm themselves to take on hamas and end the rockets this will go on and on and on,how would germany be now if it allowed the bader mienhof group to rule germany in the same way it is inhuman and barbaric,what would happen if hamas fired a rocket into israel and israel responded by simply doing the same at any target with a bigger bomb not aiming like hamas there would be again outcry at that..why is it ok for hamas to kill israeli children in this way and israel should not be allowed to do the same,i have never condoned any murderous acts or terrorism but i now feel all terrorists if and when captured should stand trial and sentenced accordingly if they set of a bomb and kill civilians then they should stand trial for their lives,if no-0ne dies as a result of their actions then life in a prison forever,human sheild users using innocent kids and civilians while attemting to kill someone else again in my view is a coward and should stand trial for his live,people like this are not human and do not care if anyone gets killed but they are so cowardly they are desperate to live themselves that they hide behind a child to shoot ...whatever the reason he should be executed simply for that act,israel should set up a humanitarian camps for the people of gaza and open the borders in to israel with u.n monitors and then vet and search all the people who come through that crossing into a place of safety and feed and take care of them and if anyone remains in gaza he or she is doing so because he is a supporter hamas and let hamas and isael fight it out to the end once it is over then gaza will be free and peacefull

37 Only zionist life are valuable, others are liked chicken

38 I am reminded of reports from Somalia when the Ethiopian army went in there. Somalis attacked the Ethiopians with the tactics that they had used against US and UN troops i.e. they would send a group of Somali women and children down the street and then Somali men with AK-47s would fire at the American or UN soldiers from the rear of the crowd. The Ethiopians, who have been dealing with Somalis for more than a thousand years, were amused. The Ethiopians reported that hiding behind women and children was not a particularly effective tactic since the bullets the Ethiopians fired can go right through the bodies of the women and children to hit the Somali gunmen.

39 Why FAKE the story? The Zionist Murder Machine has created THOUSANDS of similar REAL LIFE AND DEATH STORIES. This group of Zionist Murders have spent years claiming the Scriptural Truths to be theirs. If God Himself tells you that he will make you rich, DON'T GO AND ROB Bank of America to fulfill the prophesy? I know that My God PROMISED to give TRUE Isriel every square inch of Abriham's land. This Bumch of HORRIBLY CONFUSED DEMON POSESSED, GREEDY MURDERING THIEVES are like their forefathers, WHOM THEIR OWN GOD said, "I repent that I made them". He of ALL, KNOWS THEIR HEARTS. THE ZIONISTY country who has userped the name ISRAEL, has fulfilled their purpose of creating hatred for God's Truelly Chosen People "Israel" WORLD WIDE. God Himself, hardened their hearts, blinded their eyes and stiffened their necks when they chose not to move on with Him into His realm of LOVE, THE MURDER OF THE INOCENT MUST OCCURE to demonstrate to the ENTIRE WORLD the lengths that Zionist will go to, to lie, steal,cheat and yes murder their way to satisfie their NEED FOR GREED. THE WORLD NEEDS TO SEE THE EVIDENCE of THE ATTROCITIES. THE CONSISTENT REFUSAL TO ABIDE BY ANY OF THE UN RESOLUTIONS. THE SEQUENTIAL MURDER OF THOUSANDS OF INOCENT PEOPLE OVER WHOME THEY EXERCISE COMPLETE CONTROL. This poor child didn't do anything to earn what the people of "Israel" have done to him, his mother his father, his brothers, his sisters and/or his people. EVERY ZIONIST will one day know what they have done wrong by supporting and purpertrating these unspeakable attrocities and they and/or their supporters, will pay FOR EVER FOR THEIR CRIMES. Capt. Fred

40 Confederate Yankee? Amusing. A way for all these people to vent all their hate and intolerance. come on guys don't disappoint -- there must be lots more people you hate besides palestinians. go for it! I'll add one comment about gaza. the israelis have been using force for as long as i can remember, and it has brought them not one step closer to peace. Sorry, I can't find in my heart a shred of sympathy for their point of view in this. it is laughable after all these days of bombings and shellings and shootings, to hear tha the burdenof proof that you might have actually killed people is on the presss. dudes, it is your goal -- to kill!

41 Children become adults. Children are used to seed the future for good or bad. Palestinian extremists and Islamic Militants have been and continue to indoctrinate their children to hate and kill non-Muslims. Logic dictates the children and the women who bear them must die as well to prevent further prorogation of the problem. Why do you think they have all been fighting for 2000 years? One side needs to take the bull by the horns and wipe out the other side so significantly, so as to permanently pacify them. Women and children become guilty by association. Let them die..-or breed them out.

42 CNN is hokey ~ Lazy journalism.... they are part of the 60's culture that lack the hard work and integrity of the 50's.... G-d help us now !

43 The Best mohammed T-shirt art is from Sweden.Watch and read the info at, http://www.mohammedt-shirt.com

44 Less Arabs, more peace.

45 I have seen hate ... but hate like this amazes me. WoW. One hates the Jews and the other hates the Arabs and one hates the children and women. I give up on humanity. Jesus Moses .. Mohammad ... I give up ...

46 And which thugs shot at Ambulances and Ambulance crews and killed UN truck drivers ?

47 By the way, so many child and infant casualties to see so there is absolutely no need to make fake videos and I do not think that there is time to fiddle around making fake videos when the real thing is happening on a large scale and under totally trying circumstances. This is another Zionist prank at misinformation.

48 When was the last time an Israeli went into a religious party and blew himself up? Likewise, when was the last time an Israeli blew him/herself up in a restaurant crowded with innocent diners, or a school, or a Jet plane or two, or three? When you live in a culture of death and violence you may understand what the Israelis face every day since 1947. Every day. It's now pay back time for these murderers.

49 it all goes back to simple politics. if israel treated there neighbors with respect i would bet my house that rockets would rain down no more. One must relieze hamas isn't firing the rockets for the hell of it. they didn't wake up one morning and decide out of the blue to fire off a few rockets. no, it's built up rage they are angry at israeli politics.

50 Jan, you are a lying piece of commie crapola. You are like a seminar caller to a talk show. You start out with that "I was once a...." fill in the space. And then, wham! Comes the zinger. Bullshit. You Arab loving dick.

51 Terrorism nust not be supported or justified, nor the terrorism of islamic extremists, nor the terrorism or states like Israel, terrorism is terrorism, crime against humanity and inocente civiles are crimes no matter if they are commited by enemies or friends. Sadly, Israel is turning itself in to a terrorist state, capable of horrendous crimes against humanity,an action than put them and their friends (us) in to more danger for the future since its turning Israel and U.S. in promoters and supporters of terrorism, because talking with honesty what Israel is doing todat is TERRORISM, not better or worse than Hamas.

52 Terrorism nust not be supported or justified, nor the terrorism of islamic extremists, nor the terrorism or states like Israel, terrorism is terrorism, crime against humanity and inocente civiles are crimes no matter if they are commited by enemies or friend. Sadly, Israel is turning itself in to a terrorist state, capable of horrendous crimes against humanity,an action than put them and their friends (us) in to more danger for the future since its turning Israel and U.S. in promoters and supporters of terrorism, because talking with honesty what Israel is doing todat is TERRORISM, not better or worse than Hamas

53 As a surgeon I have to agree the resuscitation efforts shown on the video are either completely inept or staged. More concerning, the boy's body could be real, having been cleaned up after his death. This was purportedly a Norwegian hospital and the physician on the left is Norwegian apparently. Using a dead child's body as a prop in a charade filmed for propaganda purposes, especially when "CPR" is performed, is highly unethical for any physician. Furthermore, it borders on desecration of the body. The Norwegian Board of Medicine should be informed of this physician's incompetent, or more likely unethical, behavior.

54 "Why wouldnÂ’t it be real? Is it really that hard to believe?" Possible = True. Welcome to Libthink.

55 Are these the same people dancing in the streets after 9/11, and were is the money for all these guns caming from????

56 i always marvel at the selective amnesia a lot of folks suffer from every time this issue of this isreal and palestine's fright comes up! i am yet to read of a time when the isrealis wakes up one day and starts a fight! how come all the days hamas has been blasting away at isreal we all forgot to condemn thier actions and the moment isreal decides to fight back the whole world starts to condemn isreal from east to west! are we truthful with ourselves? what would we do if hamas decides our homes are the next desination of thier rockets? maybe we would advice ourself to remain calm and appeal fopr peace! i wonder!

57 Why are the Palestinians firing rockets? I'd say it's because they're an occupied people with a legal right to fight the occupier.

58 I'd written a more detailed comment but it was rejected because of questionable content, or some such.

59 It isn't complicated. Stop firing rockets and mortars into a legally established nation in an attempt to kill their citizens or learn to love the response you are getting.

60 War Sucks! It hurts me to see innocent people killed, but... If the palesinian people want peace, they need to tell these Hamassholes to quit harrasing Israel. Anyone who has any knowledge of the Israeli military knows that these guys don't play games. They are truly a well trained and powerful military force. Everyone can live in peace if they so choose.

61 Why don't the Mexicans start sending rockets into Texas or California? and then let the “news media” interview those folks living there to find out what their opinion would be about the Mexicans? After all those areas were at one time part of Mexico! Why don’t the English drop their bombs on the U.S., after all it was their territory not long ago and why don’t the Greeks bomb Macedonia, after all it was all part of their empire, etc., etc., etc. I could go on...and as to civilians or soldiers dying, what the hell is the difference, they are both humans, so who cares…an enemy is an enemy in uniform or in civilian clothes. Why are people so surprised at victims in a war, don’t they know that 50 million died in the Second World War and most of them were civilians! People are like apes, mimicking each other! Or like parakeets, repeating each others’ folly or stupidity.

62 I absolutely hate to see deaths on either side of the conflict. Seriously. But I echo what others are thankfully saying. Palestinians! If you want peace quit electing terrorists (HAMAS) to lead your government. Tell them to quit firing rockets into a legal nation. Grow up and live in peace with those different than you like the majority of others on this earth and your life will be a lot happier!

63 Let me tell you why most Americans don't care about Pal women and children dying.. There were thousands of women and children dancing in the streets of Gaza while our twin towers fell........Three thousand Americans died that day, we should care about a few hundred Pals....I think not

64 I had to remove the numbers nine and eleven to get my post accepted....Sad the censorship of this pro Pal site

65 A NOTE TO MORONS: The "censorship" you are complaining about comes from an automated spam filter on the domain that is obviously malfunctioning.

66 Excellent analogy to Mexico. The fact is that today, the U.S. does not have Illegal settlements in Mexico.

67 Operation "Tail Wind" starring Peter Arnett ,aka Baghdad Pete, again.

68 This more fun than a boat load of dead pal babies! Its all "staged"? I suppose the bombs and bullets aren't real either. Try looking at all the arab news feeds. Looks like dead babies to me!

69 Hi, Is it real. I've got no idea about it.

70 Was this the best coverage of the carnage going on in this region? With as much carnage that is being reported in print, one would imagine there would be dozens of such incidents to photograph or videotape. Are the camera personnel hiding in the tunnels? course, that may explain why those boys were on the roof, instead of hiding.

71 Should the USA continue to acknowledge as veracity the Palestinian propaganda, woe to the country that wars with Israel.

72 Oh, by the way, the last time when the Isreali's last pulled out of Gaza, they then sealed off Gaza with an embargo, Pals got tired of that and elected Hamas and that's why Pals started rocketing Isreal. Why to go zionists! You should hear what they are saying in the West Bank now. WE ARE ALL HAMAS NOW! Good job israel, now West Bank is Hama's now. When are you going to invade them?

73 If the Israeli's would have a nice party near a beautiful brook with birds chirping and sit down with hamus and serve tea and cookies then everything would be wonderful and everybody would be able to get along and be happy. Hamas would complain that Israel didn't serve humas. I believe they are beginning to eat themselves up now. The Israeli's are brilliant.

74 January 9, 2009 War of Choice: How Israel Manufactured the Gaza Escalation by Steve Niva Israel has repeatedly claimed that it had "no choice" but to wage war on Gaza on December 27 because Hamas had broken a ceasefire, was firing rockets at Israeli civilians, and had "tried everything in order to avoid this military operation," as Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni put it. This claim, however, is widely at odds with the fact that Israel's military and political leadership took many aggressive steps during the ceasefire that escalated a crisis with Hamas, and possibly even provoked Hamas to create a pretext for the assault. This wasn't a war of "no choice," but rather a very avoidable war in which Israeli actions played the major role in instigating. Israel has a long history of deliberately using violence and other provocative measures to trigger reactions in order to create a pretext for military action, and to portray its opponents as the aggressors and Israel as the victim. According to the respected Israeli military historian Zeev Maoz in his recent book, Defending the Holy Land, Israel most notably used this policy of "strategic escalation" in 1955-1956, when it launched deadly raids on Egyptian army positions to provoke Egypt's President Nasser into violent reprisals preceding its ill-fated invasion of Egypt; in 1981-1982, when it launched violent raids on Lebanon in order to provoke Palestinian escalation preceding the Israeli invasion of Lebanon; and between 2001-2004, when Prime Minister Ariel Sharon repeatedly ordered assassinations of high-level Palestinian militants during declared ceasefires, provoking violent attacks that enabled Israel's virtual reoccupation of the West Bank. Israel's current assault on Gaza bears many trademark elements of Israel's long history of employing "strategic escalation" to manufacture a major crisis, if not a war. Making War 'Inevitable' The countdown to a war began, according to a detailed report by Barak Raviv in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, when Israel's Defense Minister Ehud Barak started planning the current attack on Gaza with his chiefs of staff at least six months ago – even as Israel was negotiating the Egyptian brokered ceasefire with Hamas that went into effect on June 19. During the subsequent ceasefire, the report contends, the Israeli security establishment carefully gathered intelligence to map out Hamas' security infrastructure, engaged in operational deception, and spread disinformation to mislead the public about its intentions. This revelation doesn't confirm that Israel intended to start a war with Hamas in December, but it does shed some light on why Israel continuously took steps that undermined the terms of the fragile ceasefire with Hamas, even though Hamas respected their side of the agreement. Indeed, there was a genuine lull in rocket and mortar fire between June 19 and November 4, due to Hamas compliance and only sporadically violated by a small number of launchings carried out by rival Fatah and Islamic Jhad militants, largely in defiance of Hamas. According to the conservative Israeli-based Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center's analysis of rocket and missile attacks in 2008, there were only three rockets fired at Israel in July, September, and October combined. Israeli civilians living near Gaza experienced an almost unprecedented degree of security during this period, with no Israeli casualties. Yet despite the major lull, Israel continually raided the West Bank, arresting and frequently killing "wanted" Palestinians from June to October, which had the inevitable effect of ratcheting up pressure on Hamas to respond. Moreover, while the central expectation of Hamas going into the ceasefire was that Israel would lift the siege on Gaza, Israel only took the barest steps to ease the siege, which kept the people at a bare survival level. This policy was a clear affront to Hamas, and had the inescapable effect of undermining both Hamas and popular Palestinian support for the ceasefire. But Israel's most provocative action, acknowledged by many now as the critical turning point that undermined the ceasefire, took place on November 4, when Israeli forces auspiciously violated the truce by crossing into the Gaza Strip to destroy what the army said was a tunnel dug by Hamas, killing six Hamas militants. Sara Roy, writing in the London Review of Books, contends this attack was "no doubt designed finally to undermine the truce between Israel and Hamas established last June." The Israeli breach into Gaza was immediately followed by a further provocation by Israel on November 5, when the Israeli government hermetically sealed off all ways into and out of Gaza. As a result, the United Nations reports that the amount of imports entering Gaza has been "severely reduced to an average of 16 truckloads per day – down from 123 truckloads per day in October and 475 trucks per day in May 2007 – before the Hamas takeover." These limited shipments provide only a fraction of the supplies needed to sustain 1.5 million starving Palestinians. In response, Hamas predictably claimed that Israel had violated the truce and allowed Islamic Jihd to launch a round of rocket attacks on Israel. Only after lethal Israeli reprisals killed over 10 Hamas gunmen in the following days did Hamas militants finally respond with volleys of mortars and rockets of their own. In two short weeks, Israel killed over 15 Palestinian militants, while about 120 rockets and mortars were fired at Israel, and although there were no Israeli casualties the calm had been shattered. It was at this time that Israeli officials launched what appears to have been a coordinated media blitz to cultivate public reception for an impending conflict, stressing the theme of the "inevitability" of a coming war with Hamas in Gaza. On November 12, senior Israeli Defense officials announced that war with Hamas was likely in the two months after the six-month ceasefire, baldly stating it would occur even if Hamas wasn't interested in confrontation. A few days later, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert publicly ordered his military commanders to draw up plans for a war in Gaza, which were already well developed at the time. On November 19, according to Raviv's report in Haaretz, the Gaza war plan was brought before Barak for final approval. While the rhetoric of an "inevitable" war with Hamas may have only been Israeli bluster to compel Hamas into line, its actions on the ground in the critical month leading up to the official expiration of the ceasefire on December 19 only heightened the cycle of violence, leaving a distinct impression Israel had cast the die for war. Finally, Hamas then walked right into the "inevitable war" that Israel had been preparing since the ceasefire had gone into effect in June. With many Palestinians believing the ceasefire to be meaningless, Hamas announced it wouldn't renew the ceasefire after it expired on December 19. Hamas then stood back for two days while Islamic Jihd and Alaqsa Martrs Brigades militants fired volleys of mortars and rockets into Israel, in the context of mutually escalating attacks. Yet even then, with Israeli threats of war mounting, Hamas imposed a 24-hour ceasefire on all missile attacks on December 21, announcing it would consider renewing the lapsed truce with Israel in the Gaza Strip if Israel would halt its raids in both Gaza and the West Bank, and keep Gaza border crossings open for supplies of aid and fuel. Israel immediately rejected its offer. But when the Israel Defense Forces killed three Hamas militants laying explosives near the security fence between Israel and Gaza on the evening of December 23, the Hamas military wing lashed out by launching a barrage of over 80 missiles into Israel the following day, claiming it was Israel, and not Hamas, that was responsible for the escalation. Little did they know that, according to Raviv, Prime Minister Olmert, and Defense Minister Barak had already met on December 18 to approve the impending war plan, but put the mission off waiting for a better pretext. By launching more than 170 rockets and mortars at Israeli civilians in the days following December 23, killing one Israeli civilian, Hamas had provided reason enough for Israel to unleash its long-planned attack on Gaza on December 27. The Rationale for War If Israel's goal were simply to end rocket attacks on its civilians, it would have solidified and extended the ceasefire, which was working well, until November. Even after November, it could have addressed Hamas' longstanding ceasefire proposals for a complete end to rocket-fire on Israel, in exchange for Israel lifting its crippling 18-month siege on Gaza. Instead, the actual targets of its assault on Gaza after December 27, which included police stations, mosques, universities, and Hamas government institutions, clearly reveal that Israel's primary goals go far beyond providing immediate security for its citizens. Israeli spokespersons repeatedly claim that Israel's assault isn't about seeking to effect regime change with Hamas, but rather about creating a "new security reality" in Gaza. But that "new reality" requires Israel to use massive violence to degrade the political and military capacity of Hamas, to a point where it agrees to a ceasefire with conditions more congenial to Israel. Short of a complete reoccupation of Gaza, no amount of violence will erase Hamas from the scene. Confirming the steps needed to create the "new reality," the broader reasons why Israel chose a major confrontation with Hamas at this time appear to be the cause of several other factors unrelated to providing immediate security for its citizens. First, many senior Israeli political and military leaders strongly opposed the June 19 ceasefire with Hamas, and looked for opportunities to reestablish Israel's fabled "deterrent capability" of instilling fear into its enemies. These leaders felt Israel's deterrent capability was badly damaged as a result of their withdrawal from Gaza in 2005, and especially after the widely criticized failures in the 2006 Israeli war with Hezbolah. For this powerful group a ceasefire was at best a tactical pause before the inevitable renewal of conflict, when conditions were more favorable. Immediately following Israel's aerial assault, a New York Times article noted that Israel had been eager "to remind its foes that it has teeth" and to erase the ghost of Lebanon that has haunted it over the past two years. A second factor was pressure surrounding the impending elections set to take place in early February. The ruling coalition, led by Barak and Livni, have been repeatedly criticized by the Likud leader Benjamin Netanyahu, the former prime minister, who is leading in the polls, for not being tough enough on Hamas and rocket-fire from Gaza. This gave the ruling coalition a strong incentive to demonstrate to the Israeli people their security credentials in order to bolster their chances against the more hawkish Likud. Third, Hamas repeatedly said it wouldn't recognize Mahmud Abbas as president of the Palestinian Authority after his term runs out on January 9. The looming political standoff on the Palestinian side threatens to boost Hamas and undermine Abbas, who had underseen closer security coordination with Israel and was congenial to Israeli demands for concessions on future peace proposals. One possible outcome of this assault is that Abbas will remain in power for a while longer, since Hamas will be unable to mobilize its supporters in order to force him to resign. And finally, Israel was pressed to take action now due to its sense of the American political timeline. The Bush administration rarely exerted constraint on Israel and would certainly stand by in its waning days, while Barack Obama would not likely want to begin his presidency with a major confrontation with Israel. The Washington Post quoted a Bush administration official saying that Israel struck in Gaza "because they want it to be over before the next administration comes in. They can't predict how the next administration will handle it. And this is not the way they want to start with the new administration." An Uncertain Ending As the conflict rages to an uncertain end, it's important to consider Israeli military historian Zeev Maoz's contention that Israel's history of manufacturing wars through "strategic escalation" and using overwhelming force to achieve "deterrence" has never been successful. In fact, it's the primary cause of Israel's insecurity because it deepens hatred and a desire for revenge rather than fear. At the same time, there's no question Hamas continues to callously sacrifice its fellow Palestinian citizens, as well as Israeli civilians, on the altar of maintaining its pyrrhic resistance credentials and its myopic preoccupation with revenge, and fell into many self-made traps of its own. There had been growing international pressure on Israel to ease its siege and a major increase in creative and nonviolent strategies drawing attention to the plight of Palestinians such as the arrival of humanitarian relief convoys off of Gaza's coast in the past months, but now Gaza lies in ruins. But as the vastly more powerful actor holding nearly all the cards in this conflict, the war in Gaza was ultimately Israel's choice. And for all this bloodshed and violence, Israel must be held accountable. With the American political establishment firmly behind Israel's attack, and Obama's foreign policy team heavily weighted with pro-Israel insiders like Dennis Ross and Hillary Clinton, any efforts to hold Israel accountable in the United States will depend upon American citizens mobilizing a major grassroots effort behind a new foreign policy that will not tolerate any violations of international law, including those by Israel, and will immediately work towards ending Israel's siege of Gaza and ending Israel's occupation. Beyond that, the most promising prospect for holding Israel accountable is through the increasing use of universal jurisdiction for prosecuting war crimes, along with the growing transnational movement calling for sanctions on Israel until it ends its violations of international law. In what would be truly be a new style of foreign policy, a transnational network that focuses on Israeli violations of international law, rather than the state itself, could become a counterweight that forces policymakers in the United States, Europe, and Israel to reconsider their political and moral complicity in the current war, in favor of taking real steps towards peace and security in the region for all peoples. Reprinted with permission from Foreign Policy in Focus.

75 Ok, Sam, that would be when they left the fully-functioning greenhouses behind? That the palistinians trashed, rather than used? Gaza embargo... wasn't that when they got tirede of the brave palis sending women and children with bombs to murder people in restaurants and hospitals? Same reason they built the fence that clowns like you refer to as a 'war crime'?

76 Those like Eric ,Alex Pawel(You can be sure his relatives TURNED JEWS OVER to the Nazis in EASTERN EUROPE )etc. are posting "Defense" of the INDEFENSIBLE ,ie. the "poor" Palestinians who want to KILL the Infidel Jews who have the audacity to REMAIN ALIVE. Hiding behind Women and Children is in line with Islam which cons Muslims that their MORE THAN ACCEPTABLE Deaths in pursuit of KILLING the Jews is an act of "Martyrdom" and they are going to "paradise" with their 72 virgins. Readers, The Islamic Jihadist DOES LIVE IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE-One in which they "get to heaven" ,in 'glory', on the deaths of their targets(the Jews,Americans,British,etc)and their own PHONY MARTYRS. These Murderous Enemies of Mankind use Western Civilization's HUMANITY against us and is where the PALLYWOOD/AL-JAZEERA PROPAGANDA Machine is kept in Constant Operation. The Gaza Arabs are NOT VICTIMS! The Palestinians ,AS A WHOLE, ARE NOT VICTIMS, EXCEPT OF ISLAM'S desire TO KILL THE INFIDEL JEWS, WHO INSIST ON DEFENDING THEMSELVES!!

77 re: "Excellent analogy to Mexico. The fact is that today, the U.S. does not have Illegal settlements in Mexico." Except that, from the perspective of certain radicalized Mexican "liberation" groups, they do. But thanks for playing.

78 I don't understand? Hamas terrorists want to get to heaven. Oblige them and kill em all.

79 I am so appalled that we the U.S. are supporting this Israeli Terrosrist organization in killing innocent civilians. The whole world knows that any peoples under foregign occupation have the right to attack their occupiers. We did back in the 1700's to become free. They have the same right. They ar edoing the same thing Hitler did back in the 1940's when he ordered his army to kill 40 civilians for every German soldier killed. The Israeli goverment should be tried for crimes agains humanity.

80 Ignoring the relatively minor matter of the goal of wiping Israel out and killing Jews in the Hamas charter, what evidence have any of the brainwashed libtards produced that Hamas actually wants to live in peace with Israel. What solurions do they propose to the conflict except of course more concessions by Israel, which have worked so well for Israel over time. Liberalism is indeed a mental disease.

81 But the Israeli formula of killing kids and women seem to be higher, 100 per israeli killed. They are firing cluster bombs in civilian areas? If this was done by some other army there would be outrage by our administration. They are just sitting back with their eyes closed. But then again, we are talking about the Bush administration. I just hope Obama would stop this crime against civilians by the Israeli Army terrorists.

82 It is rather unfortunate that children are getting hit in the battle of Gaza, but isn't it wishful thinking to assume that a war of this magnitude will take place without any one recording any casuality from the children population. Truth is, it does not matter if the people killed were children of adults-they were just victims of circumstance that were caught up in a cross fire of a war brought upon them by a cowardly and murderous terrorist organization that chose to use a civilian population as an armor chest plate in a war that they precipitated.

83 I'm neither pro or anti Israeli/Palestinian, neither am I a fan of killing. History has recorded, for anyone willing to do a little research, that the Israeli's were first to use "terrorism" tactics. The Jews deserve a homeland (as they are persecuted and driven out of every country they attempt to settle), and again, history points to Jerusalem and the surrounding land as the area where Jews originated. That being said, the Jews were displaced from their homelands centuries ago, and the Arabs naturally immigrated to and settled the region. Fast forward a couple thousand years - after WWII and the holocaust - the UN established the state of Israel in 1948. Millions of Arabs are now displaced from lands they inhabited for a couple millenia. It's a Catch 22 - two factions warring over lands each consider to be their "own". There will NEVER be peace in the Middle East because of this. That being said... I do not believe Israel should have to "pull punches" because their neighbors to the south (and north and east) use crude weapons of destruction. Since the initial conflicts that were inherent with establishing the state of Israel, the Muslim "world" has been hell bent on the total destruction of that state, and presumably the Jewish population that inhabit it. Also, let's try to remember that the founder of Islam (Mohammad) was a war-monger. While the vast majority of Muslims are a peace-loving people, a large minority are hardcore extremists who believe those unwilling to convert to Islam should be killed. As long as these extremists and countries like Iran (who are not Arabs but are devout Muslims) condone and promote the destruction of Israel and her allies, innocents on BOTH sides of the conflict will die horrible deaths. Whether rhetoric or not, at least the Israeli's do have "smart" weapon technology and seemingly make the attempt to target enemy combatants, whereas the enemies of Israel appear to target anything and everyone. When a people use guerilla tactics (i.e.; staging attacks from civilian areas) then it should come as no surprise when those areas are targeted for destruction. The question arises as to why the civilian populace allows this to occur, as well as why they don't flee the area knowing full well retaliation is imminent?

84 I think the Israeli goverment whould now be brought to justice for killing innocent civilians. This was done in Bosnia, we can now do it to them too. I think the new administration will want to see justice everywhere. How can we continue to support these israeli war crimes and say we are fighting terrorism. This is the worst kind of terrorism: This is Goverment terrorism / genocide.

85 I think the world should bring the Israeli goverment to court for crimes against humanity. This was done succesfully agains Bosnia war crimes heads of state, they can do the same for the Isreali goverment heads too. This is going to isolate Israel and maybe the people would vote for a new goverment that governs within international law guidelines.

86 The jews are the worst kind of animals on this planet. They either kill you(IDF) or steal your money(Medoff,Lou Pearl etc.). The irony of all, that if any jew on this planet would be treated the way they treat the palestinians, it would be the worst kind of "anti-semitism" in the world.Some one has to do something before they blow this world into pieces.It is unimaginable how the people of this world let them have such power.They literally infiltrated almost every government on this planet, they have spies all over the world, they are untouchable.They could attack any country and get away with it.There are only 15-16 million jews estimated to be living on the planet out of 6 billion people, yet, they are the most powerful political force especially in the US.They deserve to be bombed by Hamas,w oman, children, doesn't matter, just like it doesn't matter to them who they kill.

87 the pals. people are just cannon fodder to a leadership which resides in another terrorist country. Brave men, not parasites, lead from the front--not from a video clip? The world will be a better place when hamas is completely destroyed.

88 " o Cubanbob: I was a full-on supporter of Israel... really a Zionist... until I worked in the West Bank for 9 months in 05-06. It was there that I witnessed what I could never have believed to be true about the occupation. It culminated in my last month when, after 8 months of nightly incursions by the IDF, leaving my patients (90% women and children) traumatized, I witnessed for myself how Israeli soldiers used a 16 year old girl as a human shield in a military "operation" on the street where I lived. I would not have believed it had I not seen it with my own eyes. How sad that the oppressed have now become the oppressors! I believe the children of Sderot and Ashkelon are now terrorized by the violence they have experienced. Multiply that by thousands of people and decades of time and you have the Palestinians.... enough hatred to fuel another generation or two of violence... on both sides! Posted by: Jan at January 10, 2009 03:58 AM" I'll accept at face value what you said is true. Does not change the underlying fact that no nation is obligated to suffer unnecessary losses to simply spare enemy civilians. Case in point; the US burned most major Japanese cities to the ground to get Japan to quit fighting and thereby lessen US casualties. The Arabs principal target are always Israeli civilians. That is the rule not the exception. As others have pointed out, those were rogue soldiers who were punished and what did they do to merit punishment? Simply using the enemies own tactics against them. Ignorant morons commenting about illegal occupation and other stupid horseshit is tiresome. The UN is not a legal parliament and for those who quote silly resolutions I say pack your bags and stop your illegal occupation of North America. Lead by example. Demand that Arabs quit their illegal occupation of the various indigenous lands in North Africa and the Middle East such as Kurdistan. They all have better claims to nationhood than the Palestinians. Indeed the Arabs should quit their illegal occupation of Zion. The Arabs have been launching terrorist raids in to Israel since the 1950's when Gaza was part of Egypt. Israel dies not occupy and is not obligated to provide aid or supplies or services of any kind to its enemies. Gaza has a border to the south with Egypt. Let them get what supplies they need from Egypt. The fact that Egypt won't supply them and closes its border with Gaza tells one everything they need to know about the Arabs true feelings and intentions towards the Palestinians. All lip service but no action. There are 300 million Arabs surrounding Israel, but somehow they just can't get it together to take Israel on. A country the size of a postage stamp with a population smaller than New Jersey's. In 1991/1992 Saudi Arabia and Kuwait kicked out more than 300 thousand Palestinians after the first Gulf War. Israel should force the Arabs out of Gaza.Or pressure the Egyptians to take back their former tar baby. I notice that not one of those pimping for the Hamas terrorist ever justify why these cowardly dogs do not wear uniforms to distinguish themselves from civilians. That in of itself is a war crime and is cause alone for summary execution if captured. But then again cowards that they are, they rather use their woman and children as shields and tools rather than fight and die like men. Arab woman should piss on the graves of the terrorists for being the worthless dogs that they are.

89 I hope the Israelis push the "poor, suffering Palestinians" into the Mediterranean and Suez Canal in a "Swim for Allah" marathon. Finish this thing once and for all! Maybe the IDF can paint numbers on the stomachs of all the Palestisanis they push into the ocean. Then it could be like those games at the amusement parks where all the yellow floating ducks go around in a circle and you pluck one out and hope you get the winning number. The prize could be an all expense paid trip to Iran to confront the actual perpetrators of this war. Iran and China are the true culprits in this conflict, as they are providing the missiles to the Hamas terrorists, whose only interest is death and chaos, not the Palestinian people. The Palestinian people are just foolish pawns of Hamas and many of them are going to die because they will not rise up and rid themselves of Hamas. Zero point zero sympathy for the Palestinians and their lies and propaganda that we have all had to endure for too many years.

90 I am really angry that we are still supporting the Israeli killing machine. Not only we support them, but we still arm them to kill kids and women. But I think we as a country now have become to question our own goverment and their motives. The defense industy is really putting a lot of $ in the Congressmen pockets to continue to support this terrorist state. Without any more conflict in the middle East, the defense industry will lose a lot of appropriation $. I hope the Obama administration will follow up on their supporterpromises to be fair and just in world politics. We can turn the war $ into green $ instead.

91 I think they should give the land back to the palestinians and move the jewish people to a state like Arizona or Nevada. Then they will start a war with Mexico and no more illegals can get in this country. Then they start atacking the neighboring states and they invade California and they start bombing the idiots there.

92 these people have been milking the world for the last 60 years, not enoufgh to eat, but they seem to have enoufgh money for ARMS. they thrive when they parade DEAD women & children for the worlds sympaty they are EXPERTS at PR( AS WITNESSED IN JERICHO THE MASSACRE WHEN THEY CARRIED A DEAD MAN ON A STRETCHER WHEN HE FELL OF AND HE ROSE TO RUN AFTER THE STRETCHER TO GET BACK ON)look at derfur when they claim to be undernourished look at the children & women with bones portruding, how much help is given to these people? yet these bloodsuckers continue to milk the world for sympathy and no matter how much is given it seems like a bottomless pit.

93 Israel has the ability to erase all of Gaza in a matter of hours without taking any casualties itself. Instead they choose to go in on the ground to minimise the "collateral damage" to the innocent population, risking a significant potential loss to it's troops. Hamas leadership in turn, is safe and sound in Damascus, Beirut and Teheran willing to fight to the last woman and child of Gaza. How brave, indeed.

94 Why are the Palestinians firing rockets? I'd say it's because they're an occupied people with a legal right to fight the occupier. Posted by: Daniela Covarrubias at January 10, 2009 09:38 AM. To the extent they are occupied is due to the fact they lost a war they started. Of course you do not seem to be demanding that Arabs also stop occupying lands that they are occupying. Your problem is not land occupation per se, but only with a certain group occupying land. Should the whites quit Australia? Should the US return the Southwest to Mexico? Indeed should all non indigenous people leave North America? Should all non pure blooded Mexicans quite Mexico and return to Spain? There plenty of archeological ruins in the present day Israel and in the so called occupied lands that are clearly Jewish dating back two thousand years. There are no Palestinian antiquities. So tell me again who is doing the illegal occupation? " The jews are the worst kind of animals on this planet. They either kill you(IDF) or steal your money(Medoff,Lou Pearl etc.). The irony of all, that if any jew on this planet would be treated the way they treat the palestinians, it would be the worst kind of "anti-semitism" in the world.Some one has to do something before they blow this world into pieces.It is unimaginable how the people of this world let them have such power.They literally infiltrated almost every government on this planet, they have spies all over the world, they are untouchable.They could attack any country and get away with it.There are only 15-16 million jews estimated to be living on the planet out of 6 billion people, yet, they are the most powerful political force especially in the US.They deserve to be bombed by Hamas,w oman, children, doesn't matter, just like it doesn't matter to them who they kill. Posted by: gabe barkoczi at January 10, 2009 12:11 PM" Gabe is a Jewish name. Are one of the conspirators? If the Jews are so powerful, why aren't you dead? Do the world a favor and die. It will be the first,last and only useful thing a worthless piece of shit like you will ever do for humanity.

95 My humble perspective: I would not wish to have a constant barrage of missiles regining down on my home. No doubt the Israelites should do what is neccessary to protect their country, but have to know when to pull out. Theses Islamic infadels (hamas) have no regards for human life and need to be driven for once and for all. Personally I would like to see Iran havin it's own course of medicine soon, before the US have a nuclear problem on their hands and then heaven help us.

96 Hamas illegally occupies Gaza. They took it, violently, from the Palestinian Authority and they still continue to bitch about Israel and their "illegal occupation"? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

97 Let's see, collateral damage, surgical strikes, what language would Americans be speaking now if Pres. Truman was worried about that when Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bombed. Yeah, right he only got military personnel.

98 I say to hell with these fanatical Islamic Hamas. Sawing off peeps heads with swords. Bombing buses. How revolting these sickos must be. No regards for life and their 72 virgin brides that await them. TO HELL WITH THEM. Israelis ought to do what is neccessary and finnish these cockroaches off for good! Give Iran a taster of what is to come too, wouldn't go amiss either imho!

99 It's funny how many comments are on this thread condeming the Israeli response to terrorist activity. Many of these are probably the same people that claimed the border fences would not prevent homocide bombings in Israel (yet these have been significantly reduced since their creation). Throughout it's history, Israel has always acted in self-defense. In 1948, they fought for their right to exist when they were attacked by the Arab world. Both Arabs and Jews fought on the side of Israel to protect their nation. In 1967, Israel was attacked again. Both Arabs and Jews fought in this short conflict and achieved an overwhelming victory. In 1973, Israel was attacked again and achieved another dramatic victory - with both Arabs and Jews in their military. The PLO and Hamas have both carried the goal of killing the Jews by driving them into the sea. They claim "Palestine" as theirs - yet the word Palestine comes from Syria et al Palestina, which was the Roman name given to this area when it was under their control. Later the Ottoman Turks took over and lost control of the area to the British in WWI. In history, the Arabs have never controlled Palestine, creating a great hoax where a race is created out of a lie. These people have been used as tools to fight the Jews and eliminate them from the Middle East. They were granted Trans-Jordan for the Arab population. In 1948, they were granted another Arab property in Palestine, yet this was again not good enough. As long as these people continue to preach hatred and destruction, they should not be surprised when they face the consequences of their actions. Israel doesn't teach their children to hate, yet the other side does (just watch Palestinian TV or read one of their text books). Until ordinary citizens stand up and realized that they are being victimized by their own beliefs and not by the Jews, the Catholics or any other race or creed, we can expect these types of conflicts to continue. Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Fatah, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, Al Queda, et al must be eliminated to ensure the safety of those that do not follow extreme Islamic principles. Until they stand up and refuse to be used by these groups, a live in the same areas they use to attack from, everyone in those areas are at risk. For America, 9/11 was an attack on our civilians and the Palestinians celebrated. For Britain 7/7 was an attack on their civilians, and the Palestinians celebrated. For Israel, these rocket attacks are indescriminate attacks on their civilians, and the Palestinians continue to celebrate these attacks and support the murderers that launch these rockets. If you are a Palestinian and you truly want peace, remove these monsters from your collective society and ignore the hate they preach. Until then, Israel will have to begin the process of removing them and defending their God given right to live in their homeland, in peace.

100 CNN run a propaghanda piece? NO! Surely not lmao, after this "election" we just had there's not a broadcasting news agency left in USA with the exception of FOX and a few smaller networks, that has ANY credibility what so ever. Go to Newsbusters(dot)com and Honestreporting(dot)com, They been showing us for a long time the decietfullness and tactics they use, see for yourselves the lop-sided reporting that goes on in Nbc,Cbs,Abc,AP,Msnbc and more. They are anti-jew,america,God and anti-capitolist's There's No Credibility in USA's Journalist's, NONE. Want real news? Go to WND (World Net Daily), VOA, or Haaretz Daily Newspaper to name a few. We (dont even watch the mainstream news or Propaghanda Networks as I call them. They pride themselves in "forming public opinion" rather than "informing the public". Very few "real Journalist's" are left in America, Very few.

101 My dislike for Jews are overshadowed by the bad taste in my mouth I get when reading the crap about the poor Arab/Muslim civilians that are killed in Gaza. These assholes are at each others throats since the dawn of time, killing each others women, children, grandmas, etc. Muslims are cowards, they are the one's hiding behind civilians, wherever there's shit in the world, be assured, Islam is behind it - New York, sudan, London, Bali, Spain, India....... To the Moron in the US who apologised for his/her country's government not acting against the Jews - I hope your fellow countrymen kicks you in the where-ever! There will never be peace in the Middle east nor in the world, not while there is still Muslims running about.

102 BTW - anyone looking for a clear example of bias in the news media, search for Tuvia Grossman. He was a victim of Palestinian agression during the first intifada and had his picture posted across the world a being a bloodied victim of Israel. He did an article on aish(dot)com a while back to explain what happened to him and how the picture affected him as he became a propaganda piece for the Palestinians. http://www.aish(dot)com/jewishissues/israeldiary/Victim_of_the_Media_War.asp

103 boring

104 Israel has the ability to erase all of Gaza in a matter of hours without taking any casualties itself. Instead they choose to go in on the ground to minimise the "collateral damage" to the innocent population, risking a significant potential loss to it's troops. Hamas leadership in turn, is safe and sound in Damascus, Beirut and Teheran willing to fight to the last woman and child of Gaza. How brave, indeed. Well said, I have been saying that for YEARS!

105 Posted by gabe barkoczi at January 10, 2009 12:11 PM That's you Ron Paul, isn't it? Welcome to the board Congressman.

106 Steve, why write a book in a blog? Trust me, if you gotta write that much to get your point across, then maybe the point your trying to make is wrong? These Palistinians are the same "Philistines" that the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob said to destroy completely back when God gave them the land of Canaan (modern day Israel) after he brought them up out of the land of Egypt. God knew these people would never stop making trouble, knew they would never be satisfied living in peace with his people. Thats why he said to kill them ALL. But the Israelites got lazy and left a remnant in outlying towns, these trouble makers are the decendants of those Philistines. Israel is doing the right thing and it's not by desire, they have No Choice. Theres going to be casualties of war in any battle.

107 Hi "cubanbob".Why are you so angry at the world? Are all of you jews are always so mad that you have the urge to kill? Oh, i forgot, you are angry because of the Holocaust, the concetration camp and all the crazy stuff happened to your people years and years ago.The stuff, that you and your people are still crying about after 60 yrs. Remember, suing a bunch of Europian companies and governments for hundreds of millions of $$$$ for a lousy gold tooth you lost during WWII. The Russians, by the way suffered the biggest human loss and you know what they did? They rebuilt their country and moved on. The jews on the other hand are still whining and feeling sorry for themselfs, screaming Holocaust and anti-semitism the minute they are criticized for the bloody murders they are committing against the indigenous population of Palestine. Remember, most of the jews in Israel were imported from Europe and from who knows where so they can create their so called "state" illegally at the cost of the tens of thousands of Palestinians being murdered and millions displaced. "cubanbob" i have a question to you. If i decided to occupy your house and force you to live in a tent in your own backyard, kick you and beat you every day, let you eat dirt and piss on you, would you fight back, or just roll over and die? You probably would you coward piece of garbage.

108 Vote for a terrorist organization to run your country and than be surprised by what they cause to happen? Looks to me like you get what you asked for?

109 Hello MORON GABE. The Israilis legally created their state thru th United Nations, MORON. The Pals could of had their own country 3 to 4 times now. FREEDOM NOT FEDAYIM.

110 Fact: Palestinians bring this upon themselves. They know well what will happen when they keep provoking Israel. Islam can cling fast to their devil doctrines of war,genicide, and hate. "They SOW what they reap". Now here is how it's gonna go. Israel is gonna get heat/threats from the rest of the world. THE U.S. BETTER STAY OUT OF IT AND DO NOT JOIN IN. The Russians and Iran and some other dim countries will ATTEMPT to attack Israel. The true GOD, of Jesus will SMITE the ISLAMIC warrriors and possibly the HOME countries involved. The remaining ISLAMIC/Muslim countries will be stunned into sillence to be feared no more. GOD will take credit for this act. There will be sillence and the ANTICHRIST will rise and take his place. Everyone will believe he is JESUS taking his rightfull place. This first guy is the ANTICHRIST, don't be FOOLED. Don't beleive the POPE, he is going to be fooled. Do NOT follow them. DO NOT TAKE THE MARK WHEN IT COMES! You have been warned of prophesy in advance.

111 This whole mess is because Adolf was too compassionate...

112 George Hussein: Great to hear an ARAB who has some common sense!!! Your a little off though! The Jews in Israel have been experiencing genocide since the 1930's!!! The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem started the Arab riots in the 30's slaughtering just below 60,000 people (not even half that have died on both sides from 1947 till now). He did it because he wanted the world to know there are no other people living in Palestine except Arabs (although 70%+ of the Palestinian Muslims ARE NOT ARAB!!!). Of course he stil did not kill ALL the indiginous Jews, Non-Arab Christians, and Druze, but he tried. The very fact that the so called Palestinians use that name is racist, as every single inhabitant of Palestine was a Palestinian. There were and still are a large number of Jews in Israel who have an unbroken history in the country from pre-babalonian exile, so only they can claim to be the "Indiginous race of Palestine" as the Philistines were finally decimated by the Asyrians, and King Solomon did a good job on them before that. The Canaanites were wiped out completely and Neither race were ARAB. The problem as always with any conflict caused by the middle east Arabs is ISLAM regardless of what is said, it is a relligion of hate and murder, anyone who claims otherwise is either a liar or has not studied the Quran and the Hadith along with the accepted Sunni and Shia interpretations. So those who compare the IDF to Nazis are wrong, the NAZIS here are the Palestinians ALL OF THEM!!! They can be compared to both NAZIS and the Japanese culture before the US handled that evil culture, yes the Japanese had a culture of racial supperiority and hate for thoussands of years. When dealing with a lunatic fringe culture NO ONE including women and children need be worried about, as indoctrination starts at 3, and you'd be suprised at how difficult deprogramming and reeducation is even at 5 or 6 years old. Let's also not forget that the so called Palestinians (as the Grand Mufti started that lied) actually were co-architects of Hitler's final solution, the mufti went to young Hitler in the early 1920's to convince him that mass deportation was not enough, and efficient murder on a large scale is required lest the Jews join the indiginous Jews in Palestine and outnumber the Arabs and the Slavic Muslim majority.

113 What would you guys do if you are in their shoes? You have families to feed and to take care off.One day your 3 years old kid fall sick and there's no medical supply and dies due to the embargo by Israel.Your 6 month infant nothing to be fed with due to limited food supply. Put yourself in their shoes,bring along your families to GAZA during the embargo.. Try to sit back and think for a few minutes..You live with your family and have 3 kids age 2-5 years old in GAZA when theres an embargo by Israel... WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF SUDDENLY 1.You are jobless 2.You dont have enough money to buy food for your families and kids 3.Limited food supplies or no food at all 4.Limited medical supply 5.No electricity 6.No water supply 7.The child you love is sick and theres nothing you can do about it and dies 8...and the list goes on.. WHAT WOULD YOU DO?... You have been denied your rights of these basic things to survive. While were are here arguing each other but we still can survive..When you are hungry,just go open the fridge and there something to eat or just call the delivery guy..But what about those people in GAZA felling at this moment.. JEWS only think for themselves and don't even bother of others..Why does the American soldiers in the Middle East have to die for the JEWS.And what have the JEWS have done to the Americans.... Can't you see that JEWS use America as their shields and do their dirty work for them..For what purpose America ivaded Iraq rather than oil? JEWS uses them as a shield to watch their neighbours Iran.JEWS is using AMERICA as their chess game.Placing all the the knights into position and waiting for checkmate.To take over the whole of Middle East.How many American bases have been strategicly located in the Middle East

114 Hi, Nazir.If you take some one's land without them giving it to you and you either chase them away or kill them, that is not exactly legal, even if the UN gave a blessing to it, sadly.

115 SMA wrote: "Excellent analogy to Mexico. The fact is that today, the U.S. does not have Illegal settlements in Mexico." Really? Wow, and I thought that we got Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, Nevada, Utah, and Colorado from Mexico during the Mexican-American War.... and I was sure that these states were settled my millions of so-called Anglos.... guess I was wrong. Just in case you don't 'get' what I'm talking about, all of the aforementioned land, plus some, belonged, and by your definition still belongs, to Mexico. We took it in a blind war of aggression. We did, there's really no arguing that. So where do you live? If it is west of the Louisiana Purchase, start packing....

116 Gabe, three things.... 1. Is the Holocaust the ONLY act of anti-Semitism that you are aware of? If so, then it is no wonder that you don't understand..... 2. Taking someone's land... query me this: at what point will Tibetans lose the right to their homeland? After all, they no longer control it and they are a distinct minority now and decreasing fast due to Chinese policy. So after how many years does the Dalai Lama's rights expire and Chinese imperialism win?

117 Saul Rosenberg: First off you're probably an ARAB or Neo Nazi afraid to use your real name, as the Rosenburg name is European Jewish and you would probably not be with us Hitler did a better job. Number 2 let's just say Hitler succeeded in killing every single Jew in Europe, how would that change things? We still have the EVIL that is ISLAM on full throttle to destroy the civilised world. Three British and Ottomon Palestine were full of Jews (don't forget those indiginous Jews who can trace their history back to pre-babalonian exile bought Tel-Aviv and Haifa from the Ottomons!!!). The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem father of the Palestinian Lie and also a chief architect of Hitlers Final solution slaughtered nearly 60,000 Jews, Non Arab Chrisitans, Bedoins, and Druze in the 1930's Arab riots. He still didn't manage to put that much of a dent in the indiginous Palestinian Jewish population, so how would Hitlers killing of Jews more efficiently in Europe have effected the situation unless you one of those FUCKING IDIOTS who believe all the Jews came to Palestine from a European Zionist conspiracy!!!

118 When are you folks with all the time in the world to sit in front of a keyboard and espouse nonsense gonna get it? Israel is not going to go away and the "resistance" perpetuated by islamofascist Palestinian arabs and their overlords in the surrounding countries will never be able to make that happen!

119 Man, all i am saying is, that a "country" like Israel, that doesn't even have a decent freaking drink that they famous for (or anything for that matter)stinks. I'm gonna get some whisky!

120 Azmi - Do some research. Prior to the intifada, the Palestinians enjoyed one of the highest standards of living of any Arab country. This was primarily due to the ability to live in Israel, earn an excellent wage and return to Gaza or the West Bank at night. As a result, the standard of living was higher than that found in Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, Kuwait, etc. It wasn't until the intifada began and homocide bombers began killing innocent Israeli's that the Israeli government had to severely limit the jobs available and stop subsidizing the Palestinian way of life. Again though, this standard would have been continued had homocidal maniacs not started a war with Israel.

121 Yes, they do have a drink--it's called Carmel Wine. Gabe--sorry for swearing at you--WOW, I must have a conscience?

122 Gabe: When you actualy study the history of Palestine from a reputable NON-Muslim source, you'll find Palestine had a unbroken Jewish population pre-dating the Babalonian exile. Also when the Ottomons brought in the Slavic Muslims who made 70% of the so called Palestinian population in 1947, they also brought in more Jews, Christians, Druze and Bedoins. So NO one took the Palestinians land, they were unwanted Migrant workers brought in by one of the most evil Empires in world history. Don't forget the Ottomons were Pirating, Extorting, and Murdering Eupoeans and Americans for hundreds of years, and when asked why they said because Islam demands that the Infedel be treated in that manner! So much for the BS that this sort of thing is a new concept created by a few extremists who hijacked the "Peaceful" Islam!!!

123 I dont think of myself as be real smart when it comes to political ways.So i try be read as much as possible from both side right and left.The truth is in the middle [east] somewhere. I truely believe this is all about God and the churchs fear that the truth of his existence or lack of will come out.The church has had a hand in every war on earth.On December 28,2008.The Russian Orthodox church requested and recommened Joseph Stalin be canonized [type in stalin canonized you will see]this is not the first request for this by the church.In 1933 Hitler was killing the handycapped the church stepped in and made a deal with him.He was Roman catholic and stopped killing them.I wonder who they said he could kill.You can go on line and find all kinds of stories regaurding the tumb of Jesus. A bowl maybe belonging to him.all this info.is buried in the ground in the area that is being blown up if we could prove Jesus was in fact just a man and not the son of God.This would go againt all that the church has built its wealth on.If this proof was to get damaged then the church could say it was no good and argue it was fake.As they have with everything else.They tell us to just believe. That all this scientific proof is of the devel.Put there to put dout in the minds of the people that believe.The God i was tought to believe in said not to kill.Now they say he meant not to murder.I was told as a child God never changes,so was god wrong when he said no women in churches.As was the way of the old churches.We look at the muslums and there beliefs,but fail to remember how we used to be.Only men were able to go in to a church.Was God wrong or was this just some guy saying God told him this was the right way.Who can you believe.Its easy to see things one way if that is the only way you look.Like i said i dont claim to be smart.I only have question no answers.I do go to church every Sunday with my family and try to believe.But i'm not as blind as some.May the God you worship bless you and your family. p.s.they dont get to have sex with the virgins they get so weres the fun in that. peace be with you all.

124 What happens when a fly falls into a coffee cup? The Italian - throws the cup, breaks it, and walks away in a fit of rage. The German - carefully washes the cup, sterilizes it and makes a new cup of coffee. The Frenchman - takes out the fly, and drinks the coffee. The Chinese - eats the fly and throws away the coffee. The Russian - Drinks the coffee with the fly, since it was extra with no charge. The Israeli - sells the coffee to the Frenchman, the fly to the Chinese, drinks tea and uses the extra money to invent a device that prevents flies from falling into coffee. The Palestinian - blames the Israeli for the fly falling in his coffee, protests the act of aggression to the UN, takes a loan from the European Union to buy a new cup of coffee, uses the money to purchase explosives and then blows up the coffee house where the Italian, the Frenchman, the Chinese, the German and the Russian are all trying to explain to the Israeli that he should give away his cup of tea to the Palestinian.

125 Hey Vince: Acutally NO they are not called Philistines, the Grand Mufti named them that (actually Filistines they call themselves now) in an attempt to associate them with that race so they can claim they are the oldest indiginous race. Only probelm is that we KNOW the Philistines were a violent race who were related to Turks and Greeks, basically a preditor race similiar to the concept of the Alians in the movie Independence Day. Once that lie backfired there was the Canaanite movement among them to claim they are decendents of the Canaanites, however their pitch was their were NO other races especially NO Jews in Palestine prior to 1947, and in fact the whole idea of Jews in Palestine was manufacutred by the Evil Zionists in Europe in the 1920s. So their Canaanite movement backfired on them as well as it acknowledged an old Jewish presense and that contracdicted the Zionist BS story they still preach today. The Arab minority of todays Palestinians (they are actually 70%+ Slavic Muslims) are the decendents of Ismael Abrahams son. It says clearly in the Old Testament that this race will be blessed in great numbers, but they will be a violent BEAST LIKE Hoard causing mayhem wherever they go. Not much of a religious zealot myself, but whowever wrote that has them pegged!!!

126 does anyone else think Israel is just a puppet for the US.We do this all the time look at Sadom in 1989 i was in the gulf and my job was to make sure his oil get out.shortly after i got out we went after him.we put the guns in the hands of the israel people that they are using now to kill children.it reminds me of a gangster movie pay someone to kill for you then kill the guy you paid to kill.we will go after israel but not till they finish the job we paid them [with guns]to do.

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128 The roots of this conflict go way back, and the PALs need to wake up and recognize that Israel is there to stay. Accept that reality and peaceably press for an independent Palestinian state. It could have been all so simple. I was in Israel just a few months ago. Do you know that in the West bank you can sit in an open air coffeshop and have a latte ? I thought to myself of how thing seem to have greatly improved there from just a few years ago. But it was not so in the Gaza. What offended me recently was an interview with what a very educated and well spoken Palestinian woman linked from Yahoo News(perhaps some of you saw it too). But all she did was lie. She said "It's important to note that the Hamas rockets do not have explosive heads". If that is so (and it is not) then launching those rockets into Israel is truly a stupid gesture. But then, I've seen personally seen the impact sites of those rockets. You don;t need to be an expert to tell that they definitely have exposive heads. Not only that, we found many blackened roofing nails around the impact site. These were obviously placed around the explosive head to become shrapnel. She claimed that the tunnels were for smuggling food and humanitrian supplies. But, we all saw the IDF films from the F-16 cameras and what happenned when thier missles struck those tunnels. Funny that. I've never seen food and humanitarian aid supplies cause those kinds of secondary explosions (Oh right, that was the medical Isopropyl rubbing alcohol, my bad !! ). She accused the interviewer of never having been to Gaza. I suppose that she did not do her homework because that interviewer has many times been there and told her so. Eventually he had to just cut her off. I noted that every single statement she made was either an outright lie or misleading to the extreme. Does she comprehend just how much she damages her own credibility ? Every time I see any interview with here I now must question anything and everything she says. PALs, pick a better representative. But all things considered, I think that Israel's actions were rash and unwise. All Hamas has to do is to survive and they will declare a victory.(and since most of them are outside of Gaza, you can bet that claim will be made). Sure it might temporarily halt the rocket threat, but they have just assured that there will be another generation of willing PAL militants who will remember all of this. But on the other hand, what di the Hamas militants expect was going to happen when they resumed full sclate rocket attacks (by the way, for those of you who do not know, Hamas continued to launch rockets into Israel during the truce, just not so frequently. Hamas claimed that these were rogue militants not under their control - Yea right! But then, some Israeli's also violated the truce. But hey, those were rogue Israeli militants also ! See how it works ? But there is one thing that is certain. Hamas is a roadblock to Palestinian peace and independence. With them in the picture, it will never happen. Given the contrast between life in the West Bank and life in Gaza the right choice should be obvious. In some ways I do also assogn some responsibility for this to the Gazans. Surely they knew that when they elected Hamas into power that nothing good could possibly have come from it. not only that, they also had to know a vote for Hamas was a vote to greatly multiply their suffering. If the Gazans want to move forward, have peace and prosperity for their people, they must get rid of Hamas. And they cannot say that n one told them so. They knew what would happen, and did it anyway. and this makes me wonder what is the mindset of the average Gazan. In conclusion, this action by Israel was a bone-headed move. The Gazans electing Hamas and kicking out the PA was a boneheaded move. Firing rockets into Israel was a boneheaded move. I have to wonder Is there anyone over there on either side who possess's any inteliigence or clarity of thought. The Hamas charter calls for the total destruction of Israel, and says that negotiations and truces are a waste of time.

129 to all the doctors out there maybe you sould do more reading.you see for about a year now we haven't been doing mouth to mouth it is not needed only the chest conpressions.thought you should know doc and how can you tell a plastic surgen from a er doctor from a picture i'm impressed NOT

130 Joe, having been a paramedic for 17+ years, I can't tell a plastic surgeon from an ER doc, but I can tell a real code from a fake one. For any number of reasons, I am not buying into this one.

131 THANK YOU FOR THE CHANCE TO VOICE MY OPION. thank you for deleting my opion.guess it was to much for you think about.peace be with you

132 mikael thank you i dont know codes or any of that med stuff. just know we dont blow in the mouth any more to save a life

133 A pox on all houses of fanaticism! The historical mythbusters should have a go at this - The idea of a Palistinian people and nation is a recent invention from the 1960s. Prior to the UN creation of the modern state of Israel in 1948 and the 1967 war, all persons living in that region were considered to be Egyptians, Jordanians and Syrians. After 1967, these countries saw fit to forget this after losing wars with Israel. They want nothing to do with them, especially after hothead "Palestinian Identity" groups or sympathetic groups such as the Muslim Brotherhood and their kin found ways to make themselves obnoxious to the rulers of these countries. Other countries have exploited this for their own purposes. We have many parties to thank for this sorry state of affairs - Locally, the message of Nasser's Pan-Arabism had fallen on many interested ears, both for ideolistic and evil, cynical reasons. The region is lousy with evil, oppressive and corrupt governments who were eager to misdirect the anger and frustration at home toward the "cause" elsewhere. The major players here have been Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Syria and Turkey. The USA and Russia are hardly blameless, Britain historically too. Those last countries have less ideological interest in the region than an interest strategically in controlling the oil supplies there. None of them have ever given a rats ass about "palestinians" or the Jews either. What we have there is a fine "Crips" and "bloods" thing going on a slighty larger scale, with a toxic mixture of oil, ethnic, tribal and religious hatred. These latter things have been in play in one form or another for millenia. Arguably, there is also an "industry of struggle" at work too. What would happen to all those entities whose livelihoods and reasons for existance would evaporate without "this cause" or "that crusade" or "the intifadah" to do exploit. It would fall apart as if Prohibition or the "war on drugs" were called off and legalized. On the ground, if everyone is really concerned about leaving non-combatants in peace, stop firing rockets and mortars into Israel (BONEHEADED!)and Israel will stop its actions in Gaza. It would be helpful for the outside powers to cease encouraging this mischief which does no good to any innocent civilian caught in the middle of this. Eschew this false doctrine of Allah will sort out his own, or "Our God has a bigger dick than your god, therefore is on OUR side" This is not helpful. Real men should not hide behind the skirts of women and children, Hospitals and Sacred places. If they feel they must make war, let them go forth, fight and die openly, like soldiers of real nations. There is honor in that, everything else is cowardly, swineish, devoid of glory. One does not earn martyrdom this way. No one gets virgins after death. Religion is a stupid thing to make war over. It is absurd and wrong to define your humanity, and that of others based on choice of religion. It is absurd to kill and die on behalf of any god (invisible or otherwise) that will not provably return the favor personally. Time, demographics and the ballot box will eventually sort this out without another shot being fired in anger. Keep your lives. Love your children. Teach them the Golden Rule (not the one with the gold and ruling). Grow and thrive in peace. Diversify your media choices. Think for yourselves. Bad things inevitably happen to those how leave that to others. JAS PS: This contributer works for the frequently Criticized News Network. I have heard it said that when your network is criticized by all sides, that it is doing the best possible job.

134 this is a joke you all talk about lies and fake news yet most of what is said here is just bs and i bet one guy sitting all alone in a celler typing to himself there is know real chat just the one sided kill them all crap soorry i ever stop here peace be with you all

135 Joe, Controlling the airway and ventilating the patient is still part of an in-hospital resuscitation. You're referring to bystander CPR which is not the situation at this Norwegian hospital in Gaza. The Norwegian doctor is identified (by name) as a surgeon in the UK Channel 4 video.

136 Israel has never killed even one child

137 SIMdoc, Look at 0:40 on the video. There is clearly tape across the right face leading to the mouth. This would suggest the patient has been intubated. You cannot actually see the face in the video during the code, so I'm not sure how anyone can say the patient isn't being ventilated. They show a tech or someone to the left of the patient and to the right of the worker doing compressions, so perhaps he's providing the bagging.

138 "Posted by: alex pawel at January 10, 2009 08:22 AM it all goes back to simple politics. if israel treated there neighbors with respect i would bet my house that rockets would rain down no more. One must relieze hamas isn't firing the rockets for the hell of it. they didn't wake up one morning and decide out of the blue to fire off a few rockets. no, it's built up rage they are angry at israeli politics." Your basic problem is that you dwell in ignorance. If you had even a miniscule understanding of history you would know that what you said is pure BS. For many years, Hamas has stated bold-facedly that they wanted all the Jews dead. They don't care whether Israelites drop bombs on them or not, they will kill every Jew they can reach until "Palestine" is totally clear of Jews. They aren't interested in a better life for the people of Gaza; all the Gazans are are tools to be used and killed by Hamas. The proof of that is in the history of the Gaza Strip since before Hamas took it over, illegally! They know that if they fire enough rockets and send in enough suicide bombers then Israel will retaliate; then imbeciles like you will all jump up screaming about how the Jews are killers and inhumanitarian and try to bring the UN, the Arab league, and every Arab country screaming for the Jews to be tried for war crimes. Of course no one ever mentions about the Hamas killing innocent civilians; men, women and children; on purpose. Just as they have been doing with their rockets for years. Israel moved out of the Gaza Strip in 2006, forcibly moving Jewish settlers by use of the IDF. Israel left homes, businesses, and many green houses capable of turning out food to feed the Gazans and what happened? The Gazans destroyed everything the Jews left for them, Voilz, no food and then they cried to the world that the Israelis wouldn't feed them and the idiots at the UN sent in food whgich was taken by Hamas so that Hamas could look like saviors to the ignorant Gazans who then voted Hamas into government which turned on the legal government and killed them, imprisoned them, or chased them out of the Strip. So, who do you think are the bad guys? The Jews who tried to help the "Palestinians" build a country or Hamas who are busy tearing the place apart, using food sent in to Gaza to buy arms to attack Israel? DUHHHHH :p

139 U.S. Weapons of Mass Destruction in the hands of Israeli Butchers. portail.islamboutique.fr/gaza2008/ And we wonder why they hate us.

140 I think a a tactical nuke strike on Gaza would be more humane at his point to end the Pals suffering in what will be known as the "Gaza Holocaust".

141 Let us pray for the safety of Palestinian civilians who held hostages by Hamas and the safety of Israeli soldiers. May this campaign end swiftly and may Hamas be annihilated. May moderate Muslims emerge victorious in the struggle for Gaza! http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2009/01/israel-invades-gaza-in-attempt-to.html

142 PS: This contributer works for the frequently Criticized News Network. I have heard it said that when your network is criticized by all sides, that it is doing the best possible job. Another possibility is that it's doing an awful job.

143 Some people are in denial.Their hate,racism and genocide approval make them on the same level of Israeli Nazis! They can't even handle the truth and follow Gobbles(Hitler's propaganda minister)in intimidation to suppress the freedom of speech! Why don't racists stick to Fox News!

144 Probably because they're hooked on al-Jazeera, Al Safi. Who, btw, make the "Israeli Nazis" look like pikers.

145 Moses,your interpretations of history would anger any history teacher to give you an "F-"!

146 Hey guys! here is another fake one! http://forceddemocracy.com/images/080228-sami-gaza.jpg oh wow, its a little too late for this terrorist as well!! http://forceddemocracy.com/images/GAZA 3_110606BL1 Is he a terrorist too,or do I just need something cool to show mommy and daddy? http://forceddemocracy.com/images/afp_itf.jpg fake terrorist head in the rubble!!! ha ha , stupid paly, that's what she gets for being born on my land!!! http://forceddemocracy.com/images/GAZA CHILD'S HEAD.jpg This is what the INSIDE of a terrorist looks like! http://forceddemocracy.com/images/dead_baby_hanging.jpg as if you idiots couldn't tell, there was a lot of sarcasm in those posts. About 300 of the casualties, "terrorists" that israel claims hamas uses as "human shields" are KIDS. Israel uses artillery on the worlds most populated area, and EVERY time they kill civilians, they just blame HAMAS. I FIND THIS TO BE ABSURD, AND BEFORE YOU START CALLING ME A "DIRTY MUZZIE" AND ALL YOUR OTHER NAMES FOR DISSENTERS, JUST KNOW THAT I'M JEWISH. They way you people, and right wing jews in Israel, talk about Palestinians is APPALLING. WAKE UP IDIOTS, THEY HATE US BECAUSE ISRAEL HAS OCCUPIED LANDS WHERE MILLIONS OF THEM LIVE FOR OVER 60 YEARS!!!!!!!!!! HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO LIVE UNDER OCCUPATION FOR 60 YEARS???? ALL OF THE PEOPLE HERE MAKING EXCUSES FOR THE IDF MAKE ME SICK!!! WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WARMONGERS LIKE YOU ON THE RIGHT MAKING EXCUSES FOR IDF, AND HAMAS "APLOGISTS"? NOTHING!!!

147 how funny. read the comment that the illiterate "rob" posted about palestinians "deserver" to have their babies killed. Has anyone else noticed that the far right can barely speak english? If anyone thinks that little kids deserve death, for what a few FANATICS do, then they themselves are FANATICS.

148 How it all began... Read the facts about how Zionist created Terrorist State of Israel stolen Muslim and Christian land of Palestine.. http://www.ifamericansknew.org

149 How it all began... Read the facts about how Zionist created Terrorist State of Israel stolen from Muslim and Christian land of Palestine.. http://www.ifamericansknew.org